MUR, fatigue, blah, blah 5-8 reps is a regurgitation scheme. Any rep range is going to work beyond 5 reps as long as it’s sensible (absolute highest being like 30 reps or something)

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Anonymous #5 14w

lower rep ranges are less physically and mentally tiring and allow you to use heavier weights. bro can do 12 reps if he wants but if he doesn't have a preference he should go with 5-8

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Ok? Good for you man. But you know what’s even more objectively true? Not regurgitating gymtok absolutes. Sure, is 5-8 reps a physiologically optimal system for most people? Yeah. But does it make it the best? Absolutely not. Optimal is not the best way to train. The best way to train is up to the individual and giving a broader range of freedom. That will always outweigh any TikTok study you recite

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Anonymous #6 14w

Dude if you’re mentally or physically tired from doing 12 reps instead of “5-8” you’re actually just not focusing in the gym man. Doing 12 reps is not as detrimental as your studies say it is 🤦

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And cuz you’re gonna spew more nonsense backed up by Chris Beardsley studies and old Paul Carter posts about effective reps model and fatigue (which btw is mostly out of context anyways) and pawn it off as your own knowledge, here are practical scenarios as to why an individual might want to do more than 8 reps: injury/aggravation, noobs should experience training hard in higher rep ranges too, personal preferences, neurological adaptation, etc.

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Yeah and unfortunately without him you would not be able to say exactly why you believe a 5-8 rep range is the baseline. You would realize that what you’re arguing is splitting hairs at most. And no, in most scenarios telling a gym noob to do 5 reps of a lat pulldown or concentration curl or whatever is not the default we should be pointing to. No one who was once a noob walked in to the gym and did 5 clean reps with heavy weights of multiple exercises without a coach. It’s just highly unlikely

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For a TRAINED individual with some dirt on their shoe, yeah “lower rep ranges” would be a good suggestion. But it’s somewhat dishonest to recommend that to a noob right off the bat without explaining the nuance of that training style and how it ties in with an overall program

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Dude 6-12 rep range and a 5-8 is not that big of a difference, especially to a noob. And your degree doesn’t mean jack if everything you’re saying is literally straight off instagram posts. And btw, the bigger studies that look at atrophy rates and stuff, which is basically the backbone of your training system, was done on ICU patients who couldn’t move their body. What’s “optimal” is literally just a hairs worth better than most “suboptimal” practices.

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Yeah no shit it’s more tiring. But is it worth debating about to the extent that it is? Fuck no, it’s ridiculous. Your recommendation of 5-8 over my 6-12, which was just an example btw, is just the same vibe as 🤓 “aksually”

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Also, drop that ig handle

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Anonymous #5 14w

I'm not saying he shouldn't do 12 rep sets. I do them; it's good to practice in all rep ranges. They're great. But he should know why you might pick one rep range over another. They have a few (admittedly small) advantages and disadvantage.

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Anonymous #6 14w

also you are arguing against a lot of things i did not say. i don't get my gym information from tiktok, i don't have a degree in this, and i certainly don't think 12 reps are too many. idk where you're pulling this from

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