Anonymous #1 11w

for reference, for chest I have 2 sets of a flat chest fly and 2 sets of an upper chest fly. For back I have 2 sets of a sagittal lat movement, 2 sets of a frontal lat movement, and 2 sets of kelso shrugs. For delts, I have 2 sets of rear felt flies, 2 sets of lateral raises, and 2 sets of a shoulder press. Then 3 sets of cable crunches.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Now, if you’re running something like a PPL split, then yeah 20 sets is definitely over the top, but for Upper/Lower or FBEOD where you are going to have to do more exercises in your program, 20 sets isn’t crazy

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Anonymous #1 11w

19 sets of what? Even if you do 4 chest, 4 back, 4 shoulders which is more than enough, that only gets 12

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Anonymous OP 11w

Other comment broke down my day

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Anonymous OP 11w

I should point out that almost all of my work is isolation movements. The only compound I do is shoulder presses.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Speaking in terms this black and white is not a good look btw dude. I’m doing no more than 4 sets per muscle group in my split, and I’m hitting the gym 4x a week, giving me a 2x frequency with at max, 8 total sets per muscle group. Unless you can point to a genuine flaw in my programming, then I’ll continue to do this lol. Learn a little bit of nuance buddy.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Dawg he literally said all the sets and exercises and they add up to 19😭

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Anonymous #2 11w

I commented before that was posted

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Anonymous #1 11w

Look at my post. By set 19 you're not getting much out of any movement. You can easily cut 4-5 sets off of that and make better progress

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Anonymous OP 11w

My cumulative fatigue is not going to be substantially high with the way I workout. What do you even suggest I shave off? I’m not doing high volume lmao. I swear, kids like you watch one youtube video and think you’re experts on fatigue management.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Cut out shoulder press, replace upper pec fly with an incline press with substantial shoulder flexion. You could cut a set of sagittal rows, switch the kelso shrugs for T-bar row, drop a set of rear delt flys. Cut a set of cable rows. Easy

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Anonymous OP 11w

so use worse exercises, got it. Also, you understand that a compound is more fatiguing than an isolation exercise right? You want me to cut down on my sets for fatigue management, but in that same breath suggest doing a row instead of a shrug. Do you also think a barbell squat and a bicep curl are the same degree of fatiguing? You’re not smart because you learned some anatomy on tik tok little guy.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Why are you doing barbell squats and biceps curls? Do more stable exercise. Your 225 squat is weak

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Anonymous OP 11w

I don’t do either buddy, it’s called an example. You’re avoiding the point. You are so scared of fatigue, but in doing so, replace a kelso shrug with a row, a more fatiguing exercise.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Doing 2 sets of T-bar row will get adequate stimulus for biceps, mid traps, and rear delts. Less fatigue than 2 sets of shrugs, 2 sets of biceps, and 2 sets of rear delts

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Anonymous OP 11w

show me a guy with developed biceps doing just t-bar rows and get back to me

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Anonymous OP 11w

An overhand grip is mostly brachioradialis when flexing the elbow btw, not bicep. Stop trying to talk anatomy

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Anonymous #1 11w

bicep is an elbow flexor. Its getting worked

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Anonymous OP 11w

do you genuinely believe that biceps are getting adequate growth stimulus from a fucking t bar row?

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Anonymous #3 11w

Ok that’s a little much lol

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Anonymous #1 11w

Ya let's point and laugh at this guy now

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Anonymous OP 11w

we’re pointing and laughing at you buddy. You think you’re hot shit when you have no clue what you’re talking aboit

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Anonymous #1 11w

*aboit

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Anonymous #1 11w

Clearly know more than you cause you can't spell

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Anonymous OP 11w

Same guy who thinks you can grow your biceps just doing t-bar rows

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Anonymous #1 11w

Got 19 inch arms from only doing t-bar

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Anonymous OP 11w

sure you did buddy

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Anonymous #1 11w

Ok good we finally agree

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