Anonymous #1 14w

Women have tits and asses. They don’t need to completely hide those parts of their bodies because you can’t control yourself.

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Anonymous #3 14w

And I have a dick print but I don’t willfully choose outfits that make it visible from outer space. 100 women vs accountability

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Anonymous #1 14w

Accountability for what lmao. What do you want women help accountable for? Dressing in athletic wear when they work out and minding their business? The only one who’s not for accountability is the men who blame the women because they can’t control their own urges.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Accountability to understand what’s acceptable in shared public spaces? I’m not saying that men shouldn’t control themselves, but acting like it’s only on men to do so is crazy. Your an adult and have just as much responsibility to respect others as they have to respect you

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Anonymous #1 14w

Bros gay

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Anonymous #5 14w

Yeah so gay that I respect my fiance enough to not ogle at other women☠️

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Anonymous #1 14w

And athletic wear in a gym is entirely acceptable. No one cares if you disagree.

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Says a lot about you that the only reason you could think for a man to not be a misogynist is because he wants sex lol

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Anonymous #3 14w

I never said it wasn’t I’m just saying that it’s not a one sided issue like yall try to make it. If u can’t understand that it’s the men WITHOUT self control that would PREFER you dress revealingly then I don’t think I can help you

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Anonymous #1 14w

It is a one sided issue actually. Women wear athletic clothing to the gym. That is normal. There is nothing they need to change about that.

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Maybe teach kids not to sexualize women’s bodies and normalize teaching them that people wear athletic wear in the gym? Also, what gym are you going to with children lol

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You never question how our culture has sexualized women to such an extent that just showing skin is revealing? Maybe it’s not the fault of women, and it’s the fault of our society for deeming every single thing a woman does to be sexual.

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Athletic shorts and a sports bra is the most revealing 99.9% of women go to. If you have a problem with that, it’s on you. Is there a line? Obviously, I’ve seen a woman try to workout in a thong bikini, and she was rightfully kicked out. Shorts and a sports bra is not over the line.

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You’re more than welcome to wear a sports bra. Women have to do that too! And because they don’t want to, and don’t have to. I hate working out in sweats and hoodies lmao, i wear shorts and tight compression shirts that show off every inch of my torso. I don’t see you complaining about guys that dress like me though, seems like you only care when women do it.

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The double standard is glaring

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Anonymous #3 14w

W: men shouldn’t control themselves have self control M: agreed, and women should have self respect W: why? Ugh men only want to control us🙄🤚🏽 Talk about double standard lmfao

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Anonymous #1 14w

100 women vs their 1 combined brain cell

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Anonymous #1 14w

This is why we need a bunch of all female gyms. Men can’t control themselves. You clearly believe they are out of control, stupid, aggressive, primal and should be only sometimes allowed near women. So let’s just allow women to workout with each other where no one (you) will harass them for lifting!

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I don’t care if you’re shirtless. I will not objectify or lust over you because I’m not a porn addicted weirdo. All the men in my gym play sports shirtless it’s no problem to me

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Anonymous #2 14w

It’s different saying men who are shirtless or in a stringer or in short shorts look stupid, and that women who are wearing gym clothes are giving you permission to objectify and harass them. HUGE difference

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Anonymous #9 14w

Where in the fuck did I say any of that lmao. All I’ve said is that woman should carry themselves with dignity THE SAME WAY MEN SHOULD CONTROL THEMSELVES. Responsibility isn’t a gender specific issue and the fact you read this thread as such shows a lack of awareness on ur end

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Anonymous #10 14w

I could very easily sc a diff part of the conversation and have a diff narrative. Like ones where men are being downvoted into the ground for talking about how they just need to lust. Let women be comfortable. It does not impact you

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Anonymous #1 14w

Women are not responsible for men controlling themselves. And dressing comfortably, wearing a crop top, or idk a man going for a run without a shirt, none of that is taking away dignity from that person. I’ve never seen a man running shirtless and started to degrade him in my mind, or a woman running in a sports bra. Bc why would I?? It doesn’t relate to dignity, it relates to comfort

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Anonymous #10 14w

Speaking only truth, the women aren’t goin to like this one 😭

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Anonymous #9 14w

As a woman, it’s embarrassing. There’s absolutely no reason anybody needs to workout in a sports bra with nothing else covering them. Get a home gym if you’re that uncomfortable wearing a t shirt. It’s a public space. Not a flattering look

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Anonymous #10 14w

As a man, cope. They’re not hurting anyone, mind your own business

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Anonymous #10 14w

Exactly! You’re so close! It’s a public space where sports bras are allowed, and where people are hot and sweaty. So if YOU are not able to handle that YOU need to workout at home. Same thing at the beach-you don’t show up and start yelling at people for wearing bathing suits. You need to not go into these public spaces that trigger *you*

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Anonymous #3 14w

#3 I’ve read through this thread. Your responses hold no real weight. You’re a male, you don’t understand.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I would agree with that if the popular opinion agrees! That’s not the case here. The majority does not want to see Rebecca’s sweaty tits. Put a shirt on.

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Anonymous #10 14w

Dude shut up, you are a sexist woman there is nothing so embarrassing as that. You prey on other women, making them uncomfortable in their own normalcy. Get over yourself and stop speaking down to people who actually care about maintaining a safe gym space. It’s legal, it’s allowed, go to your modest little cave and live their alone and happy

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Anonymous #9 14w

There* alone and happy

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Anonymous #10 14w

I’m fully capable of understanding the concept of minding your own business. If everyone there is fine, and you’re the only one with a problem, how about you stay at home? The entitlement to think the burden of avoidance is on the people you personally don’t like to see, and not on you is embarrassing.

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Anonymous #9 14w

A lot of things are allowed that shouldn’t be. Doesn’t make it right! Like I said, until the popular opinion changes, I’m happy to stay in the right crowd. It’s a problem in gyms today and I’m ecstatic that people don’t like it. Basic self respect!

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Anonymous #10 14w

LMAO you’re so full of shit. The average American has no issue with it! Look at actual statistics and not a male dominated yikyak space with idk 200 opinions? Thats like actually dumb. The MAJORITY is so ok with women in shorts and a crop top. Actually in a lot of western spaces, the MAJORITY are cool with women topless. So since you are agreeing with the popular opinion, you agree it’s totally ok!

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Anonymous #10 14w

If you don’t like it, don’t go snowflake.

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Anonymous #3 14w

That’s the thing! Not “everyone” is okay with it. Look through this whole page. The popular opinion is that it isn’t okay. Open your eyes

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Anonymous #10 14w

The popular opinion is pro. It has not changed. It is for women in crop tops and shorts. So you then

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Anonymous #10 14w

Are you like slow? Popular opinion cannot be determined by a single pole of less then 500 people. It’s not statistically significant data. You have to google a peer reviewed study, and then you will learn where the National or a regional popular opinion actually is. It is for women dressed in their gym wear in these spaces. Thats why it’s legal—we voted for it to be legal. The majority. What do you not understand??

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Anonymous #3 14w

If it wasn’t such an ego boost, I wouldn’t go. A lottt of these women wear clothes (or lack of) that they most def shouldn’t be.

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Anonymous #10 14w

That response explains a LOT more. You’re not going to work on your body, you are literally going to a community space for people to improve themselves to JUDGE and hate on women. Thats fucking wild. You should stay home except to maybe see a mental health professional. This jealous and bitter mindset could ruin your life

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Anonymous #9 14w

I love my life! If they are that worried about being judged, they’d have the decency and self respect to put a shirt on lol!

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Anonymous #10 14w

If you think this page is enough to dictate that the popular opinion is yours, you desperately need to take a statistics class lmao

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Anonymous #10 14w

No, you clearly need help hun. They are not caring about you, it is you who are going in and judging and hating and filling your mind with them! They are spending time thinking about their form, reps, breathe, and you are sat there making no progress judging them for having the confidence to wear what makes them feel comfortable

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Anonymous #10 14w

#10, this dude and #3 are not going to change their opinion. You are wasting your time🤣 I’m glad there are still women like you out here

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Anonymous #10 14w

Trust me, nobody cares about your pick me opinion

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Anonymous #10 14w

It’s sad, it’s rooted in insecurity and jealousy (like textbook) and you should talk to someone. And def stay out of these spaces, you are making them worse by bringing your judgement and negativity to a positive space

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Anonymous #4 14w

Yeah I got that vibe lol

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Anonymous #4 14w

Bro she literally said she wouldn’t go to the gym if it weren’t for feeling better than other women there ?!?!

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Anonymous #9 14w

Eh, I go to maintain my body now. No need to keep striving for more gains. I get enough compliments now and enjoy having more free time and freedom. But yes, the ego boost is definitely a plus!

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Anonymous #10 14w

I FUCKING LOVE IT 😂😂😂😂

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m a girl, and we both know that wouldn’t work. The girls wear that stuff because they want attention (but pretend like they don’t like it), either in person or in the video they’re posting online of them barely clothed. Whether you like it or not some clothes are inherently sexual.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Just warning you, he’s gonna quite angry at this. I’m a girl also and agree with you!

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Anonymous #10 14w

I second this🤣

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Anonymous #11 14w

It makes me rly sad people can’t let women just wear what is comfortable without assuming they’re seeking attention. Women dress much more provocatively in women’s only spaces, so why assume it’s for attention from men? Why assume the worst of other women?

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Anonymous #9 14w

SELF RESPECT. PUT SOME FUCKIN CLOTHES ON!!!

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m not assuming, I’m a girl and I know. I promise you, leggings up your butt crack is the least comfortable thing you could wear. A baggy t shirt would be MUCH more comfortable. Come on now

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Anonymous #11 14w

And some girls like looking good. I’m a dude, all the time i dress to feel good, not necessarily for comfort. Not even for attention, just to feel good.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Women doing something to “feel good” is such a cop out. I’m friends with girls who claim this stuff and it just isn’t true. It’s almost always a bid for attention and compliments. And that’s normal to want attention, but let’s call it what it is

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Anonymous #11 14w

Nah. And even if it was, why do you care?

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Anonymous #11 14w

Just because you and the people you choose to surround yourself with would only dress that way for attention doesn’t mean that’s how other women feel. Why do women dress so much more promiscuously in all female gyms in parties if it’s for male attention? And sure! I agree there are def women who wear little thing bc they feel damn good in it and they do like that people know they look hot. But I don’t rly get why that offends you either? It doesn’t affect you?

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Anonymous #3 14w

I just think we need to stop demonizing men for literally complaining that women are wearing revealing clothes. You’re mad that they don’t like it, and you’d be mad if they liked it too.

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Anonymous #11 14w

This is also a weird point. Baggy tshirts are not very comfortable for everyone? Lots of women would way rather have on a tight bra or tank top to avoid the fabric sticking and unsticking to their sweat and making them hot. Plus they come with better sweat wicking material

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Anonymous #9 14w

The whole point of feeling hot is still seeking male attention at the end of the day. People want to feel desirable, that’s normal. But let’s have some respect for men and not show off every crevice of our bodies at the gym. I’d be mad if men wore leggings too, I don’t wanna see all that.

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Anonymous #11 14w

👏👏👏

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Anonymous #9 14w

When we talk about revealing clothes we aren’t talking about normal sports bra and leggings. That’s just sports wear. I’m talking about people hiking their spandex up their buttcrack and wearing the tiniest bras you’ve ever seen and their tits are falling out. That’s over the top and def not comfy

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Anonymous #11 14w

So maybe you’re just weird. Cuz I wouldn’t care if men wore leggings. Idc when I travel and men wear speedos and I don’t have a hard time focusing in other countries where women are comfortable topless. I’m from a warm place with respectful and nonjudgmental people. People dress for the weather not the men, and the men don’t care! Men don’t feel disrespected here when women dress for warm weather, even if a woman was naked they are not the type to be peep on or harass her, but to check on her.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Also don’t say “we,” these men are very clear that a sports bra and shorts is inappropriate. Not tiny spandex. Not nudity. Literally just objectifying and preying on women wearing normal leggings for not having on a long tee shirt. And you’re on their side!!!

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Anonymous #9 14w

Well if you think clothes are unnecessary then we’ll never have a middle ground sorry bud. People need to have shame again

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Anonymous #9 14w

It’s about how you’re wearing the clothing. You can wear shorts in a fine way or you can pull it up your cheeks and pull the legs up. Or there’s some clothes that are inappropriate no matter what

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Anonymous #11 14w

I think there’s nothing wrong with consent based spaces. Everyone going to a beach knows they might see someone in a bikini. Going to a topless or nude beach means you are agreeing to seeing someone nude. If you go to a public gym, you agree to seeing and not bothering women in sports bras and shorts. And that’s fine, making such a large deal about it comes from a sexist place, not some care for modesty

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Anonymous #11 14w

It’s about the fact that it doesn’t affect you at all either way

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Anonymous #9 14w

I mean it does come from a care for modesty. I don’t think going to a public gym should entail consent to seeing women in the tightest clothes you’ve ever seen that cover almost nothing

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Anonymous #9 14w

Classic one. As soon as you don’t have a good point it’s “just leave me alone this doesn’t affect you” but it does. What’s wrong with men not wanting women to objectify themselves? I think that’s great. I think it would be much worse for men to be encouraging women to dress in that way.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Shorts and a sports bra are covering and just fine. Tight clothes also totally ok, they hold things in place a lot of people like that support when they work out. If women were topless in a gym that didn’t allow it, that’s different. But that’s just not the case. Don’t go to a gym to judge others idk how you guys even have the time or energy to notice and be offended by what other people are wearing. I go to workout

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Anonymous #11 14w

It doesn’t affect you? It doesn’t affect anyone what type of spandex or what color some woman wears. It’s weird you care so much. They’re not naked

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Anonymous #9 14w

Dude it’s not weird people care. The large majority of people do not want to see some of this shit! It’s basic respect

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Anonymous #9 14w

I didn’t say type of spandex or color, that’s a ridiculous straw man. They’re practically naked. There’s no reason that leggings should be INSIDE someone’s crack. That’s just ridiculous and completely preventable. And it’s uncomfortable.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’m done with this conversation. The reality is, you’re just wrong. By law, by the popular vote of the people in most western countries, and by gym rules. So I’m not going to worry about it, bc it’s allowed. But it does RLY freak me out how comfortable these men are saying that they just neeeed to lust over a woman in leggings

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Anonymous #9 14w

They’re literally asking women NOT to wear revealing clothes. Don’t know how feminists have somehow twisted this into smth to be mad about. That’s crazy

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Anonymous #11 14w

Leggings aren’t revealing at all they’re just comfortable. It’s why all female gyms are such a good idea. But it’s kinda worrisome that those women will still be judged by you

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Anonymous #9 14w

You can’t read apparently. I’m talking about people wearing their spandex deliberately inside their asscrack. I have leggings on right now (worn appropriately) I promise I’m not judging on that.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I told you, men on this post are speaking against leggings, sports bras, tight tank tops, literally just women existing? Bc tight clothes are apparently… not allowed all of a sudden? Doesn’t matter, they fully are! Spandex of all kinds as long as things are covered!

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Anonymous #9 14w

I think we all know what kind of clothing people are saying is inappropriate. There’s a lot of variation within the categories of tank top, leggings, sports bra, etc. the whole idea is it’s disrespectful to be dressing in a way to deliberately draw attention to yourself

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Anonymous #11 14w

Cope

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Anonymous #11 14w

WE ALL KNOW? That is literally the entire disagreement. Other quotes from this thread include people saying “there is no reason a woman should just work out in a sports bra without a t shirt covering it” that’s literally what I responded to

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Anonymous #9 14w

I mean I’d tend to agree it would be better to cover the midriff, but I *personally* don’t judge women who I can tell aren’t seeking attention. That’s the biggest factor. The issue is the attitude behind it, not the specific clothes being worn

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Anonymous #11 14w

Told you it wasn’t worth your time😂

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Anonymous #4 14w

Nah I got time to waste 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #11 14w

Ok so we should ban women with attitudes that offend you from gyms ? Tf 😭

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Anonymous #9 14w

Strawman lover over here… just saying the attitude is problematic and women, if you don’t want to be objectified, don’t objectify yourself. That tends to help. Men are at fault if they’re lusting after someone but women can also do their part and not have their reproductive organs on full display. Makes it pretty tough for men

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Anonymous #11 14w

It’s not really tough for men. If you as a man have genuine trouble controlling your urges, you’re a danger. Seek professional help, or don’t go outside.

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Anonymous #11 14w

That’s what’s gross. For most men it is not “pretty tough” to avoid being objectifying. There are entire countries of men that can handle topless women without viewing them sexually. Excusing this behavior allows it to continue. It is not tough to avoid sexualizing and harassing women. It’s not hard to avoid not touching or talking or objectifying them. If it is? Get help!! That’s not normal, I’m sorry someone convinced you it was.

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Anonymous #3 14w

I’m a girl I just think it’s ridiculous to crap on men for “sexualizing” reproductive organs like do you even hear yourself?

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Anonymous #9 14w

Just out of curiosity, do you believe in evolution?

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Anonymous #11 14w

Glutes and breasts aren’t reproductive organs. Very surprised you don’t know that.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Ok so at the beach what do you believe women should wear? What should men wear? And you believe what? That a bikini is sexualizing? (Just to be clear by medical standards breasts are NOT reproductive)

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Anonymous #3 14w

You know what I’m talking about. Primary sex characteristics if you want to get scientific with me.

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Anonymous #11 14w

That includes belly buttons, hands, and faces. All primary sex characteristics

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Anonymous #9 14w

Breasts breastfeed it is inherently reproductive even if it isn’t directly involved in procreation. Swimsuits are different than gym wear, it’s a different context. But some modesty for both men and women at the beach would be nice.

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Anonymous #11 14w

And guess what, they’re covered! If women want to wear clothes that make them look attractive, then they should be able to.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Babies aren’t sexual you freak

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Anonymous #11 14w

Breasts breastfeeding if anything means they should be allowed in public that is not a sexual or reproductive act. It’s digestive.

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Anonymous #11 14w

What the fuck is wrong with you? You’re sexualized breastfeeding now? You’re sick

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Anonymous #9 14w

Ok? Are you really going to make the argument that there’s no difference between someone’s hands showing and their breasts? If so, I feel really bad for you. You’ve been really desensitized. You probably watch a lot of porn.

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Anonymous #11 14w

You said that men have to objectify women in short shorts. That it’s pretty tough for them not to. So explain to me how they handle the beach ?

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Anonymous #3 14w

I didn’t sexualize it I said it’s inherently related to REPRODUCTION because it feeds a child yall are so dense good grief

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Anonymous #11 14w

There really isn’t. Tons of countries have entirely normalized breasts, because they’re not inherently sexual. That’s been done by western culture

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Anonymous #11 14w

We’re talking about them as they pertain to sexual attraction. Are we not?

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Anonymous #11 14w

Anything related to a child is not related to reproduction. Thats so dumb

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Anonymous #9 14w

Not short shorts but buttcrack showing and breasts spilling out of a bra that’s too small. And men are pretty famous for taking a gander at women at the beach

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Anonymous #11 14w

The function is secretion and digestion. Not sex or reproduction. Medically speaking

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Anonymous #11 14w

And nobody gives a fuck if a man takes a look. It’s only a problem if someone is being a creep m

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Anonymous #11 14w

You are not listening. Men are talking about leggings. Sports bra without t shirt. Not nudity, do you understand? Most women don’t have their ass crack out. And that’s not the argument

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Anonymous #9 14w

Yeah so if any other mammal got rid of breasts they wouldn’t be able to reproduce because they couldn’t feed their young. Breastfeeding is like biologically necessary before formula. You couldn’t reproduce without it. You’re being very crazy

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Anonymous #11 14w

If they lost their hearts they wouldn’t be able to reproduce either dumbass doesn’t make the heart reproductive

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Anonymous #11 14w

Cool. We’re talking about sexual attraction. Stay on topic

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Anonymous #9 14w

Every single girl I’ve seen hikes their leggings up their ass in their gym videos with their “cute” gym fits. They absolutely do. Like I said, it’s about HOW you wear the leggings

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Anonymous #11 14w

That’s your feed based on what you like, not a gym

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Anonymous #11 14w

Because it looks good? They want to look good? Thats a crime now?

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Anonymous #11 14w

Bro sees ass and gets mad is he gay?

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Anonymous #11 14w

The women on my feed are clothed…

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Anonymous #9 14w

Dude you’re dumb I’m not talking to you anymore. Breasts are directly related to reproduction. That’s why they grow during pregnancy. You’re too far gone

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Anonymous #9 14w

Sure gooner

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Anonymous #5 14w

Yeah I’m a girl u can’t read either

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m literally a girl looking for what to do at the gym

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Anonymous #11 14w

Girls can be sexual degenerates too. You seem like ine

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Anonymous #3 14w

*one

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Anonymous #11 14w

Then mind your business and workout

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Anonymous #11 14w

Yeah and based on what you like, naked women come up. Good for you! Not how it goes for me. And not what an actual gym looks like so not rly relevant either

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Anonymous #3 14w

Never said girls can’t be sexual degenerates just don’t know why you’d call me one when I’m saying modesty for both sexes is important. Women are just having more of an issue with that at the moment so it’s the topic of conversation

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Anonymous #11 14w

Because your brain is so sexualized that you can’t stand the sight of a woman wearing leggings without thinking it’s sexual. That’s just normal to most people. Your brain is fried.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’m a medical professional to be clear. In sexual and reproductive health. You are actually dense. We do not consider breasts part of the sexual or reproductive system. Lots of things change during pregnancy—feet size, hips, nose—we don’t make them reproductive bc of that. You can’t just will it to truth.

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Anonymous #3 14w

IM A GIRL good grief and im talking about girls with their ass crack out. That is inherently sexual. Any straight man would be attracted to it.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Cool, that’s not what happens. If you think it does, go outside.

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Anonymous #11 14w

You can be a girl and still sexualize women? You’re actively doing it?

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Anonymous #9 14w

Oh wow sorry I insulted you Mr. Doctor I’m just saying that breasts are related to reproduction. If you don’t agree with that you should have your license taken away because you’re dumb. That’s the whole reason that men “”evolved”” to find breasts attractive. They’re a fertility insicator

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Anonymous #11 14w

And men can find breasts attractive. Cool. Women can also wear clothes that don’t hide every inch of them. Cool. What are you crying about?

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Anonymous #9 14w

That doesn’t make a sexual degenerate? Do you know what that means? I’m not sexualizing women they’re sexualizing themselves. Unless you have some other reason for why them having their boobs and ass out makes them feel hot

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Anonymous #11 14w

Yes they and every organ in the human body. Reproduction is pretty pivotal to human survival and it’s very involved with most of the body. Yes, men do sexualize breasts. Should they? Idk it’s kind of weird. But they do. Is that women’s fault? No! Does that mean women can’t wear sports bras? No! Does that mean women should try to prove they don’t have breasts? No!

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Anonymous #3 14w

Im not crying about anything yall seem a lot more mad than I am. God forbid I suggest women shouldn’t be showing every square inch of their body at the gym

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Anonymous #11 14w

My sister wears a sports bra and leggings on a morning run in a rural town where literally no one sees her. It’s on our property in the woods, it’s not photographed. Shes not sexualizing herself she’s just going for a run

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’ve never said you can’t wear a sports bra or should act like you don’t have breasts? All you guys do is strawman because it’s all you have. It’s more like, don’t show all your goods because you want attention and then act all mad because you’re getting attention and hate on the men. And breasts are more involved (pre-formula) in reproduction than probably anything besides the uterus itself.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Sometimes it gets 100+ degrees F, and she wears shorts! Or even a bathing suit

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Anonymous #9 14w

We’re talking about public gyms you dingbat

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Anonymous #11 14w

That’s what this thread is about. I responded to someone saying no sports bras

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Anonymous #9 14w

Yeah and that’s ok! And I wear shorts and swimsuits because I live in a hot location!! Apparently none of you can grasp any nuance because nobody is understanding what I’m actually saying.

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Anonymous #11 14w

lol uterus, ovaries, brain, any of the major hormone regulators, fallopian tubes, uterine lining, vulva, and you choose breasts as most involved? Women have babies without breasts. It’s mostly hormones tbh

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Anonymous #9 14w

Ok bro I’m sorry that person hurt your feelings but I’ve never said that so please stop strawmanning me it’s honestly very tiring

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Anonymous #11 14w

Our gyms would be and are totally ok with the bras and shorts. I’ve never seen anyone walk into it naked.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Omg you are so annoying. I meant like the reproductive system itself (mostly the uterus but yes all the other things involved in ovulation, birth, etc). The breasts are literally part of the reproductive system.

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Anonymous #11 14w

No they’re literally not? You can reproduce without them?

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Anonymous #9 14w

NOBODY SAID NAKED yall are so annoying im about to just turn my phone off for the day. Im talking about people wearing tight bottoms up their asscrack. Very common.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Google says otherwise

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Anonymous #11 14w

Medical journals say otherwise

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Anonymous #11 14w

Like leggings? You’re against tight leggings? Get over yourself. It doesn’t affect you. It’s so sad women judge other women when they’re just trying to be in shape

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Anonymous #11 14w

I had to check to see if Google was rly actually deadass wrong and you lied!!!

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Anonymous #9 14w

Alright I’m done with you. You’re trying to say that breasts are not involved in reproduction because you just cannot concede that it’s natural to “sexualize” breasts. Prior to formula, it would have been basically impossible for women without functional breasts to have surviving offspring. In nature, breasts are a required part of the reproductive system.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Look up “are breasts part of the reproductive system”

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Anonymous #11 14w

Look at a medical journal. I work in sex education & reproduction. It’s a common misconception! You’re not alone! But you’re also not correct, and I just attached what came up when I googled that.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Women have been able to use cows milk and surrogate breasts actually for centuries! In the olden days it was very uncommon for a woman of stature to breastfeed her own babies, midwives did it. And if a woman couldn’t produce in tribal villages, evidence shows other members of the village would step up. Baby wouldn’t die. Still would be a matter of digestion and secretion. Baby is already born, no more reproduction

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Anonymous #9 14w

Yeah you’re lying you scrolled past the stuff that agreed with me because you’re just that petty. It’s ok to be wrong! You can admit that. And you never acknowledged what I said about breasts being historically required for reproduction, because it’s true.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Okay but you have to recognize that what you’re doing is making everyone around you uncomfortable. Wearing tight sports wear is fine but there is a line. Nobody wants to see the outline of your vag because you’re wearing shorts that are 2 sizes to small. Sure wear what makes you comfortable but don’t do it at the expense of giving everyone around you a very unwanted anatomy lesson

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Anonymous #9 14w

They’re still relying on someone’s breasts. Breasts are completely necessary is my whole point. So yes they’re directly related to reproduction

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Anonymous #11 14w

I scrolled past the AI summary bc I don’t read it bc it’s AI lol. I’m telling you look at a medical journal or just read what I sent. I did acknowledge that

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Anonymous #9 14w

Alright bro. I’m actually done now, you’re too full of yourself to actually have a productive conversation. Have a great day and don’t be so stubborn, it really isn’t helpful at all. And don’t mischaracterize people in arguments either, it helps nobody

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Anonymous #11 14w

No you are confused. Reproduction is to fertilize an embryo and give birth to a baby. Not to feed someone. Your argument is that anything related to life or a child survival is reproduction. You are incorrect. The child’s beating heart is not a reproductive organ, even when it’s in the uterus

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Anonymous #11 14w

If anything you learned something about breasts and I’ll take that as a win 🙏 women’s health is deeply misunderstood

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Anonymous #9 14w

Yeah I didn’t learn shit from you because you’re being dumb. The AI summary that is trained on tons of articles and medical journals agrees with me. I’m sure you can find some medical journal that says what you’re saying (you can find a study that says literally anything) but it is fact that breasts are reproductive. I’m not “misunderstanding” women’s health you’re just being unnecessarily dense

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Anonymous #11 14w

Idk what to tell you. Peer reviewed studies are the closest thing we have to statistical truth. I rly encourage you to take a statistics or primary source class or smthn? The AI summaries have not shown to be accurate when used reliably. I’m not saying I can find one I’m saying that over 95% of modern med journals will tell you they are not reproductive.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m a statistics major and I have a 4.0 thank you very much. You know it’s actually possible for someone to disagree with you and not be a complete idiot. Maybe that’s what you should take from this conversation.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Did you just send me a convo with chatgbt as evidence? Did that rly just happen? Tell me that’s not chatgbt after I just made that point about AI?

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Anonymous #11 14w

They can be considered an accessory organ medically, but not a reproductive. So they’re accessory to the system, and optional for its success. But involved in the hormone regulation

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Anonymous #9 14w

I absolutely did. Because your rule about no AI is because the AI plainly says you’re wrong so you can’t just refer to medical journals that you won’t ever be checked on and you know I won’t read. Nice try. The AI has read those too.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Ok I have to take a minute from someone who would actually send chat gbt in this context that is fucking wild. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE for me and you get some education. Idc where there’s lots of programs to help you afford it but dear god please. Just on stats and source recognition and maybe go to a workshop on reproductive health and women’s spaces? Idk

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Anonymous #9 14w

Nobody said it gives them permission to objectify or harass them, we’re saying we DONT want to see your vag through your shorts because it’s disgusting to look at. You don’t look hot when you do this you look like an idiot bc you’re practically flashing everyone around you. And I think it’s VERY telling that your first thought is that men like to see that and want to objectify you.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m sorry I’m not interested in liberal indoctrination camp. My education is just fine. Like I said, I’m a stats major with a 4.0 and I’m actually on a full scholarship too! I know that pisses you off to know there’s smart people who disagree with you. That’s ok. I’m willing to acknowledge that, you should too as a mature adult

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Anonymous #11 14w

Now you’re wrong by peer reviewed journals, google, and chatgbt. Is there anything else I have to do to prove to the fucking stats major that breasts are not reproductive?

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Anonymous #9 14w

AI will affirm you if you ask a leading question a lot of the time. That’s why I didn’t ask a leading question. Even if it’s “accessory” to the reproductive system, it is inherently reproductive right? I really don’t see what your issue is here, this is common sense.

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Anonymous #9 14w

You’re the one that brought up stats not me boo. And you never cited a specific journal (gimme a break on that one ik you don’t read medical journals in your free time) and you ignored the stuff on Google that disagreed with you. And ignored the ChatGPT prompt that disagreed with you as well. You’re just ignorant.

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Anonymous #11 14w

No accessory means it is not inherently *for* the verb. Thats the entire point of the word. Look up what accessory means. The function is not reproductive. It’s not necessary for reproduction. My issue is you’re insistent that they are reproductive organs, and that when I told you they are not, you continue.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I couldn’t find anything on Google that disagreed with me. Nothing to ignore so we good

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Anonymous #9 14w

Oh my gosh. I know breasts don’t make the baby. But in nature they would be necessary for the baby to survive. Whether the mother’s or a wet nurse, they are in nature completely necessary, as with every other animal. You’re just being completely ridiculous

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Anonymous #9 14w

Babes I’m saying whether you want to call them accessory or primary or whatever, they are part of the reproductive system. Their function is directly related to postnatal care.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Ok so we agree that breasts aren’t reproductive and that leggings and sports bras are totally ok and you can stop disagreeing with me! Bc I wasn’t responding to you and you agree with every point I have made so chill!

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Anonymous #9 14w

I said breasts are part of the reproductive system. Google says (not the AI since you think it doesn’t count) that they are accessory organs OF THE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. so yes breasts are reproductive

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Anonymous #11 14w

Like I said, almost everything is part of the reproductive system somehow

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Anonymous #9 14w

No, that’s not the same. Nobody would say the heart or liver are accessory to the reproductive system. Don’t try to weasel out now.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Idk how else to explain this to you. Being an accessory organ of the reproductive system is SO MANY PARTS of the body. Your reproductive system impacts like EVERYTHING. Your original point was that they were reproductive, and therefore inappropriate or sexually suggestive. I’m trying to get you to understand that if everything accessory to reproduction were considered reproductive and/or sexual, it would be a very different world. That logic makes no sense. Do you understand what I mean?

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Anonymous #11 14w

So yes, they are, like I said, technically part of the system (as is like everything). But they are not, as you said, “reproduction organs”, that would be a gross mis definition of the breast

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Anonymous #9 14w

No I really don’t. Breasts are related to reproduction centrally in a way that no other organs are besides those that physically create the zygotes and the baby and birth the baby. It is much more related to reproduction than your heart or your liver are. You’re just twisting everything to try and make your ridiculous point.

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Anonymous #11 14w

No not the heart or liver, but lots of things. Like your thymus!

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Anonymous #11 14w

Breasts are only considered accessory in the broad reproductive context, not anatomically part of the reproductive system itself

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Anonymous #9 14w

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to say that whether they’re accessory or primary idc, they are part of the reproductive SYSTEM. they don’t directly make a child obviously, but they are like directly related to postnatal care which IS reproductive. You are so dense good grief

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Anonymous #9 14w

Yeah your hormones? Sure. Hormones are related to reproduction. But people aren’t going to the gym with their hormones out (because that isn’t possible) AND hormones serve other purposes unlike the breasts

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Anonymous #11 14w

I know that! I told you that! I’m just correcting the language of “they are reproductive organs” they’re not. It’s fine. You insisted multiple times that they are reproduction organs, now we know that they are not. Take a breath. Breasts are only considered accessory in the broad reproductive context, not anatomically part of the reproductive system itself

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Anonymous #11 14w

Well you could argue that woman shouldn’t go to public gyms when their hormone cycle causes them to lust or admit lustful pheromones, but we don’t do that because we in society expect people to act above animalistic instinct

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Anonymous #9 14w

You’re just splitting hairs because you know you’re wrong. I’m sorry I didn’t use your medical language like you wanted. I’m not a “medical practitioner” like you I’m just a stupid old layperson. Breasts are reproductive is my whole point. That is a fact. You’re using the word accessory to avoid the point that they’re accessory TO reproduction. They’re reproductive. They don’t serve any other purpose really.

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Anonymous #9 14w

U have an 85 IQ I have never said anything of the sort of men being animalistic. In fact, all you darwinists out there should really be the ones claiming men are animalistic. We’re all overgrown monkeys after all right!

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Anonymous #11 14w

Bro WHAT. They don’t serve another purpose???? They secrete milk. That to you may sound reproductive but it is not anatomically related to reproduction at all. Like their primary function is so different and the micro and chemical biology that happens is NOT reproductive. It is accessory because it is impacted and contributes and obviously functions right after reproduction. But it is not reproductive. You have to be dumb to not understand. Like you don’t have to be in medicine, just think.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Is postnatal care not inherently reproductive? I’ve said multiple times I’m not an idiot and I know breasts are not related to creating the baby. But for reproduction to be successful in nature the baby has to be fed and weaned off of milk. Reproduction would have a 0% success rate if nobody had functional breasts before formula was created.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Ok I’ve addressed this a few times now. You understand that just because reproduction would not happen without the organ, doesn’t make reproduction that organs primary function? Right? So I’ll use this as an example, again, if no one had a heart, we could not reproduce! We would be dead. Weak heart function can reduce the flow of certain hormones and make it so reproduction is harder or impossible. But the hearts function isn’t reproduction, it’s circulation.

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Anonymous #11 14w

You keep saying this thing of reproduction would not work without breasts. But reproduction would not work without most organs—reproductive or not—I don’t get your point. I’m telling you it is an accessory organ to the reproductive system that’s primary function is secretory, not reproductive. There is no other truth

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Anonymous #9 14w

Breasts do not have a function besides aiding in reproduction, unlike the heart and such. Which is why we wouldn’t say the heart is accessory to the reproductive system. The ONLY function of the breasts is being “”accessory”” to reproduction. They’re reproductive.

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Anonymous #11 14w

The function is secreting milk. What do you not understand? The function is secretory. Making and producing milk is not reproductive. Pumping blood to a uterus is not reproductive. An egg and sperm meeting to form an embryo that develops in a uterus is reproduction

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Anonymous #9 14w

Look, if you want to live your life hating men because they’re attracted naturally to breasts that’s on you. But logic tells us it’s normal to be attracted to things that are fertility markers. It’s basic evolution theory.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’ve addressed that multiple times. Postnatal care is reproductive because it is necessary for the survival of the fetus in the same way that supplying nutrients in utero is necessary. The baby is just outside of the body for this portion. You’re clearly not even trying to understand me so have a great day boo and get off your high horse it would do you well

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Anonymous #11 14w

How is that related at all to what I said? Just cuz they’re not reproductive organs doesn’t mean men aren’t attracted to them. Hell I’m attracted to them! They’re just not reproductive. Nor is glutes or hips. But being attracted to them doesn’t excuse objectifying women just for having them.

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Anonymous #9 14w

“Objectify” means being attracted to nowadays. Thats how you’re using objectify. Get off the feminist slop for a little bit and come to your senses and then we can talk.

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Anonymous #11 14w

No it isn’t. Postnatal care is not essential for a fetus. It’s essential for a baby. Fetus does not ever get post natal care by definition. And the milk is not the same as the nutrients brought by the non-reproductive bloodstream to the uterus.

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Anonymous #11 14w

No I’m saying the men who are staring, groping, harassing, or commenting here about how they look at women in sports bras or leggings. Don’t tell me how I’m using my words. I know how im using them.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I NEVER SAID THAT you are so stupid. I’m saying both are necessary for reproduction to be successful. Dude, you’re dumb. I hate to be the one to break it to you. Please consider that you aren’t the smartest person in the world please.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Whatever. If you don’t care about men being inappropriate to women fine! And if you think that a baby and a fetus and a boob and a heart and the uterus are all the same, idk what difference it makes to me, but it’s fucking dumb

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Anonymous #9 14w

How can you be attracted to something without looking? This is how attracted turns into “”objectification””

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Anonymous #11 14w

SO IS THE HEART. What is your point??? The heart is more important for reproduction than the breast! You think it’s reproductive?????

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Anonymous #9 14w

And if all you want to do is strawman me to feel like you won that’s fine. You haven’t understood a single thing I’ve said (because you’re dumb!)

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Anonymous #9 14w

I have NEVER said that you constantly strawman! You should take the advice you gave me and take a logic class. You’re just continuing on with me saying the same things and not understanding what I’m saying back because you’re just dumb

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’m so confused. I’m pointing out a flaw in your logic. Stop repeating that the breast is necessary for a child to survive. So is almost every other organ. So your point is stupid. Because it doesn’t make the breast reproductive. If your logic made sense everything would be. What do you not get? Help me understand what you’re missing

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Anonymous #11 14w

You never said what? You def said the breast was reproductive bc otherwise no fetuses would survive. Which is a silly argument because it negates what reproduction is, or the fact that you could say that for almost any organ

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’ve explained it multiple times. You won’t get it but I’ll say it AGAIN. The breast’s function is SOLELY supporting postnatal care and secreting hormones that support reproduction. The heart supports life as a whole, but isn’t considered accessory to reproduction because its function isn’t directly related to reproduction. The breast’s function is directly related to postnatal care which is REQUIRED for reproduction to be successful. Its sole function is supporting successful reproduction.

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Anonymous #11 14w

Yes! There you are kind of right! It supports reproduction. It is not reproduction, it’s not reproductive, but it supports reproduction that’s a great way to put it. It has other functions but primarily is secreting milk which supports the effect of reproduction, yes

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Anonymous #9 14w

… so the breasts are reproductive. They are part of the reproductive system (as an “accessory” if that makes you happy) and do not really serve any other purpose. They are there to support successful reproduction. Just like the rest of the reproductive system is. In the same way the heart exists to support successful circulation. Don’t be so patronizing to me and act like I’m slow, I’ve had to repeat myself multiple times because you didn’t get it

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Anonymous #11 14w

Nope! Close! They are NOT reproductive. They support the reproductive system. They are secretory. But medically and anatomically they are not considered reproductive. You were more right before. They also have adipose stores and immune cells like langerhans cells that are def not reproductive

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’m trying to think of a good example in another organ system where you have an accessory organ that has an entire other function, but it’s a rly complicated convo without knowing your background. Either way, yes you are right they are accessory in the sense that they support post natal care, but post natal care is not reproduction and I think that’s what has you caught up. They are not reproductive as a result, it’s a medical technicality if you want to insist it’s true

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Anonymous #9 14w

You’re playing semantics because it would mean you’re wrong to actually critique the substance of what I’m saying instead of nitpicking. I’m done, Google says you’re wrong, logic says you’re wrong. You can’t just say “they’re not reproductive” with no argument. Their main purpose is supporting reproduction, so for all purposes of determining what men are apparently “allowed” to be attracted to, breasts are reproductive. That was my whole point. Now chill out

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Anonymous #9 14w

It’s just not that concrete. Sources online say all different things. Which is why you were able to get a different answer out of AI. It all depends on what semantics you use. But the essence of the breast’s function is reproductively oriented. That’s the whole point.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’m attracted to them!!! I have nothing wrong with that idk why it pisses you off so much I just happen to know that they are medically not considered reproductive 😭 I also believe women should be able to wear sports bras and leggings to the gym! Sue me I guess im crazy

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Anonymous #9 14w

Good grief I never said people can’t wear sports bras or leggings. Just said I don’t wanna see ass cracks when I’m trying to work out. And guys feel the same way, at least the ones on this post

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Anonymous #11 14w

No. I literally don’t know how to explain this to you different. I responded to a comment saying that women should cover a sports bra with a t shirt. That’s what I disagreed with. I also disagreed with the idea the breasts are entirely reproductive organs. That’s it. And me and others agreed we don’t rly see ass cracks at our gym

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Anonymous #9 14w

Ok bro. Look I’m glad you know so much medical things that apparently teach you why people are sexually attracted to non-reproductive organs. Isn’t that an odd phenomenon. And people do have their cracks out, that’s why this post even exists and people are engaging

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Anonymous #9 14w

Nobody ever said they should be given permission to objectify anybody. You’re making a comparison to an extreme that wasn’t here in the first place. Men showing off extra with stringers is inappropriate in a public gym, just like a girl who is wearing booty master 9000s and tucking in only the back of her shirt so that only her ass shows. It’s about decency. On BOTH ends

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Anonymous #1 14w

how about the girls wears wear what they want and respect your fiancé by controlling yourself. it’s not a women’s job to wear more clothes because men have control issues. you’re the problem.

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Anonymous #11 14w

I’ve been in sports and in gyms for as log as i can remember. I promise you me wearing a sport bra and shorts while working out is not for attention it’s because i’m most comfortable and get hot easily. Not every woman who wears a bra (literally most women) is looking for attention. grow up

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Anonymous #1 14w

The fact you label wearing athletic clothing in a gym as not respecting yourself is so silly lmao. Have you ever seen a women’s only gym? They dress the exact same way, so it very clearly is not for male attention. The fact you’re lumping in men having to control their actions towards other and women wearing tight clothes in the same boat tells us all we need to know about you.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Take a shower

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Anonymous #10 13w

get over it. if it’s not hurting you what’s the issue?

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