Anonymous #3 2d

Yeah, we have to make sure they don’t regret their knee surgeries.

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Anonymous #2 2d

i believe neither should be allowed unless it is something like cleft lip or anything that makes regular day functioning difficult. gender affirming surgeries are cosmetic by definition

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Anonymous #1 2d

before 18, no child should get any cosmetic surgeries and that’s just being practical and reasonable. children should be able to explore their identities without the permanence of surgery UNTIL they are considering cognitively capable of understanding the implications of what they’re doing

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Anonymous OP 2d

Again, I’m so glad you know nothing about the WPATH and best practices. Really makes it fun to read.

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Anonymous OP 2d

Elective ≠ cosmetic The word you’re looking for is “elective”

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Anonymous #1 2d

instead of shaming would you prefer maybe educating? or are you just gonna say the same thing a third time

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Anonymous #1 2d

cosmetic surgeries are considered elective surgeries

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Anonymous OP 2d

definitionally wrong; gender affirming surgery can be reconstructive, among other labels. your vague parameters would include trans people btw. "makes regular day functioning difficult" is absolutely the case for body dysmorphia and dysphoria; in fact even cis people (and minors) get surgeries for this reason. consider cis boys/men getting breast reductions (which is also gender affirming)

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Anonymous #2 2d

quality of life by standard of mental health and by standard of physical health are two different things. when i made my statement i was referring to physical health. people are able to get surgeries but i personally believe it should only happen after the age of 18 because a cis child can’t typically get breast augmentations or reductions or bottom surgery to better suit what they want ykwim. i agree with surgery but it shouldn’t be before 18

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Anonymous OP 2d

physical health suffers when mental health does. in the extremely rare cases when minors get these kinds of surgeries (often cis kids) it's because the risks outweigh benefits both mentally and physically. usually we're talking suicidal ideation and extreme depression... which tend to be pretty bad for your physical health

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Anonymous OP 2d

i also seriously doubt you know what's better for a given patient than the teams of doctors, physicians and clinicians required to even initiate such a process; let alone actually execute on it

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Anonymous OP 2d

I could sit here and educate all day long but I know you don’t actually care because you wouldn’t be arguing and would have listened to trans people to learn if you genuinely did care. I’m not expensing energy on educating when we have already done the work to do so countless times over the years. But I will call out the bullshit.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Trans kids exist and absolutely deserve best-practice care. I could have avoided a LOT of issues if I were able to transition younger— but no, I have a fuck ton more problems because I wasn’t able to. Because I didn’t have anyone who actually listened and knew what they were talking about other than me. Trans kids now and forever more deserve better.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Seriously. They act like you can just walk in and get surgery that same day. Even as an adult, it takes years and even having to educate providers to get support and access to the services needed. Constantly having to “prove” your existence to people you won’t even see for the rest of your life.

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GAC has the lowest regret rate of any medical intervention.

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Anonymous #5 2d

some actually do. i’ve heard many people get it. i’m in support of puberty blockers but surgery is too permanent

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Anonymous OP 2d

for an adolescent^^

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Anonymous #1 2d

all i said was surgery is too extreme for kids. hormone and puberty blockers are cool and fine n dandy, but surgery is irreversible for the most part

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Anonymous #1 2d

idk why ur acting like i’m transphobic for saying that CHILDREN under 18 aren’t capable of making decisions that have lifelong impacts. just because you knew what you wanted doesn’t mean others do.

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Anonymous OP 2d

So is death when ignored and treated like shit and legislated into camps.

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Anonymous #1 2d

how am i acting like its same day surgery 😭😭🙏 ur making assumption based on prior convos you’ve had with others. u don’t know me and idk u. don’t act like this is personal love

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Anonymous OP 2d

Because it’s the same old, debunked bullshit with you fucks and I’m sick of it.

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Anonymous #2 2d

a child isn’t and shouldn’t be legally capable of consenting to a surgery like that. point blank period. that’s my opinion.

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Anonymous OP 2d

well... no saying someone "isn't legally capable" is an assertion, not just your "opinion". that assertion would be objectively wrong since children - alongside parents and doctors - can legally consent to such procedures under the right conditions it's when you say "shouldn't" that we start talking about opinions - and yours don't even seem to be consistent

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Anonymous #1 2d

sadly not only the cis people misunderstand these things

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Anonymous #2 2d

when i say isn’t, it’s to say isn’t capable mentally and shouldn’t be capable legally. i used poor wording, english isn’t my first language so i apologize. i am against surgeries for adolescents but support it after 18. i support puberty blockers and hormone therapy as well

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Anonymous #1 1d

Maybe that bc of the embarrassment factor of admitting you were wrong to change your gender and can’t really go back after lol. People are very hard headed too.

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