17 is not a kid. If a 17yo does something terrible, they’re damn well old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, and “He’s/She’s just a kid.” Doesn’t work on someone who is almost 20.
This is crazy. I’m 22 now and 20 to me seems like a kid. Thinking I was legally an adult at 18 blows my mind. Also the male brain doesn’t even usually fully develop until 25😭