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Porn cannot be ethical because all porn is inherently objectifying.
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Anonymous 5h

LMAO 6 DIRTY DELETEDDDD

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Anonymous 5h

i dont know which to respond to atp but #2, my point wasnt that genocide is worse than porn because duh, it was about entertainment as a medium having some of the flaws of porn. and op idk why you think being horny is satanic but its not. i dont even like porn i was just trying to understand why ur argument was so firm, but i know why now

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Anonymous 23h

It’s ethical when it involves consenting people. They’re consenting to being objectified. Just because one woman does porn doesn’t mean all women are being objectified just like if one black man kills somebody then all black people aren’t murderers.

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Anonymous 21h

genuinely curious: what makes porn more objectifying than other media? does this apply to taking pics/vids for your partner? what about porn that doesnt have real people in it (i.e. drawings, books, or animations)?

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Anonymous 1d

Not mine? It’s wholesome

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

No such thing, degenerate.

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Anonymous 1d

Not an ad tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

That is literally an advertisement for your degeneracy while missing the point of the post. You are disgusting and should feel shame for being a porn spammer at a minimum.

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Anonymous 1d

Its okay to have a differing opinion but you are not about to use my post for your temu onlyfans, you are blocked.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 23h

The addition of consenting actors does not make the “production”/sex act performed for an exchange of money or services an ethical product. The objectification/commodification of human in such a capacity is unethical without even going into the coerciveness of the industry/society in a financial downfall.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 23h

Objectifying the human is, has, and always will be unethical.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 23h

What a weird comparison example to try to make and very apples to oranges while missing OP’s point lol

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 23h

NOW TELL THEM ABOUT THE BENEFITS TO WORKERS UNIONS COMRADE

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 21h

What 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 21h

Shameless ethot. Ho’s do indeed be wildin

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 21h

Fictional or not, your partner or a stranger, it does not matter. You are reducing them down to nothing more than parts/functions related to parts. It conditions society to without realizing it begin to develop a less humane approach to a persons value by equating it to something so simple and carnal as lust for lust and/or lust for profit. This isnt even getting into the addictive nature of it for the viewer and so forth. Pornography is an immoral product.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Furthermore, unlike other forms of labor that tend to produce a product; sex if successful from a biological perspective creates additional life. So if sex is not done for that purpose, and also not for intimacy, then doing it for money reduces the human body itself to being a product rather than a person being paid for something such as food, or entertainment, or for some act of tangible value. (not porn , porn is not entertainment but thats another take) porn is produced for money and/for

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Carnal fulfillment that is not beneficial to anybody or the biological act it primarily is used for (procreation) so being reduced to either being produced for money or to satiate somebodys horniness instead of having actual intimacy reduces the human once again into a commodity and not a living breathing sentient intelligent creature with a full range of emotions, thought processes, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

I cant tell if you are arguing this from a religious perspective or feminist perspective or what. Well really neither but some of your points drifted towards almost sounding like feminist theory and stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 21h

This isnt limited to women being objectified. Men are too. The male gaYze is not down to one gender, and also on a more serious note objectifying isnt limited to strictly men (just tend to be worse violators and heavier porn consumers it would seem)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20h

“The male gayze is limited to one gender”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20h

Im stealing that 2 use at sum point op ty bunches

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

i think this is wrong tbh. it’s historically a homophobic argument to say that sex that doesnt make babies is immoral. furthermore, what i do with my body is my choice and so forth. im in a long distance relationship and if my partner and i wanna take pics and shit thats not inherently immoral. your whole argument is that lust for the sake of lust is wrong, but lust is ok. its allowed. the police arent gonna come lock you up for being horny and they shouldn’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

I very clearly said not only for sex without procreation but also for sex without intimacy. Porn is used purely for lust and profit (objectifying the human) sex is used for procreation and/or intimacy with a partner. Read again.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

And again, already tackled the consent part. You consensually doing something degrading to yourself to satiate your partners carnal appetite is inhumane and once again is reflective of the inherent unethical nature of porn. Thanks for playing.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

in my mind its not that different from saying funny movies are unethical. it just turns real humans into butts of jokes just to make you laugh. objectifying them and minimizing their stories in a world where genocide and slavery continue to ruin millions of lives. humor was an evolutionary trait to find community and mates but now it is used to disconnect people. humor for the sake of laughter just makes me sick

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

Slavery is also inhumane and again brings us back to human trafficking being a component that multiplies the unethical nature of pornophraphy

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

Please go through and read the comment section before rehashing any points that have already been argued against thanks.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

Movies and shows are an entirely different thing from porn dude didnt op tell your ass earlier that porn is not a form of entertainment? Op tell their ass again 😤

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

Damn people downvoted away a comment about objectifying humans is unethical thats insane

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

dawg i know slavery is unethical. that wasnt my argument

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

As a third party I read your argument and it was shit.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

“Slavery and genocide are worse” was your point and guess what as op pointed out those are merely just specified forms of objectifying the human much like sex work and porn. Man are you gooners so fixated on thinking with the wrong head that you are incapable of any sense whatsoever geez

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

u guys are so snarky with no interest in actually talking about this but you didnt really respond to half of the things i said. i know you said intimacy but why do you get to decide what is intimate? why can sharing images and photos with my partner not be intimate? i know what you are arguing and i argee with most of it but you respond aggressively and in a condescending way without answering my genuine questions

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

I also answered why sharing photos isnt intimate already. You are just using photos/videos of your partner for your own carnal gratification reducing them down to just their parts and their functions. Same goes for paying a prostitute for intercourse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6h

BRUH THIS SHIT WAS ALREADY ANSWERED READ MFER

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

OP MY QUEEN BLOCK THIS GOONER IF THEY SHANT READ

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6h

…queen? I’m a dude. Dick balls and all

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6h

Holy plot twist

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5h

i see point a and i see point b, but i dont see how we get there. why is looking at a picture of my partner reducing them down to their parts?? why is watching sports not reducing people down to their parts? whats the point of using 2012 memes in the responses??

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

I didnt use a meme in any response, if you are going to continue to have a bad faith argument and not read and spam me with falsehoods I will block you. Now if you want good faith dialogue again you can read all my comments earlier already establishing the difference between entertainment that produces a product and porn that is nothing more than lust for lust and/or lust for money

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

“How is looking at a picture of my partner using them for their parts” is it legitimately difficult for you to grasp the concept of how using a photo or video of your partner for your own sexual gratification is devoid of both the procreative aspect and the intimacy aspect?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

You seem like the kind of person we put instructions on the shampoo bottle for still

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

I MADE ABSOLUTELY ZERO REFERENCES to religion in any of my points. Warning number two. Stop putting out falsehoods for a bad faith argument.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

Nobody here said porn is satanic you illiterate fuck lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5h

Lets not be rude now, we dont have to play on that level. Dont go low when they do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5h

i apologize for being hyperbolic. imagine i said evil instead of satanic as they are synonyms

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

Didnt say evil said unethical. Still not synonymous. Keeping religion out of this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5h

… i didnt say porn is satanic either, i said op thinks being horny is. all the talk about carnal blah blah just makes me think they have beef with the concept of sex

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

They seem to have zero issue with sex only with porn, that just you making up more shit in your head to be mad about

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

also this is what i mean about ur arguments being weirdly aggressive because why are you calling me illiterate while reading my message wrong. how many times did u say i read something wrong while u mistook so many of my arguments and i wasnt trying to be nasty about it. i just dont understand

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

Didnt read your message wrong, if horny is being satanic then the natural conclusion is so would sex and especially porn since you were trying to get all weird and act like op is an evangelical instead of a feminist/marxist

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5h

i pinky dinky promise i was never mad. im just trying to point out that their language is very anti-horniness consistently in this discussion. I am trying to ask why that is. i think it could be related to their history with horniness or sex but who knows

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

My arguments havent been weirdly aggressive, but you have been. Along with slanderous, spamming, and unwilling to read. You are blocked. Have a nice day

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

Nope, has nothing to do with that but your continued slandering is why are you no longer participating here thanks

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5h

You never asked them that once you just kept painting them out to be a religious person when they said NOTHING related to religion you fucking clown lmao

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Anonymous 5h

Coming off rude and smug when I already answered that several times is crazy.

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Anonymous 5h

Welcome back #5 they answered that already lol

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Anonymous 5h

Also not the argument that was made. Does it ever get tiring being angry and arguing in bad faith persistently?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5h

Not the only* again as I have said SEVERAL TIMES NOW you are neglecting the intimacy aspect and so much more i am not about to repeat again to somebody who is clearly just a petulant troll who feels attacked by a post that isnt offensive.

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Anonymous 5h

No you arent, learn to read. Not that it matters cause you are getting blocked.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5h

Ah so thats why i cant respond lol

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