Anonymous #1 18h

U do realize as a wife as it is stated in traditional vows that u r to obey ur husband. So if he asks u to wash the dishes u do. Also u should want to do those things. The man goes out and works and brings home income for his family. The woman takes care of the home the man has provided and rears their children. The husband lives in the greater world and the wife in the smaller world. But neither world is more important and likewise neither world can survive without the other. God bless

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Anonymous #3 18h

... your religion doesnt apply to me or anybody who isnt christian. im a feminist and i dont believe in your god. and what you're saying changes absolutely nothing about what i said, and the peer reviewed study that i cited

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Anonymous #3 17h

"My personal rule book says that women need to act like a dog and obey so you all need to do the same" ☝️🤓

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Anonymous #1 17h

This is just not true because women used to do a lot more labor around the house and have a lot more children with their husbands

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Anonymous #3 17h

Because they were forced to and if they didn't they were physically abused. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous #3 17h

you're a random person disagreeing with multiple peer reviewed and credible studies from sociologists and professional academics. it doesnt really matter what you think when you have nothing backing you up

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Anonymous #1 17h

Also yes the laws of God do apply to u and everyone else. Either u will be judged by them or u can allow God’s son to take ur place as he made himself human and died for u so that u may live with him in his Kingdom forever rather than be apart from God where all good is gone as u will be where God has completely turned his back on u not because he mean but because he has given u the free will to decide whether u want to be with him or apart from him.

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Anonymous #3 17h

i literally do not give af bro. keep your stories to yourself

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Anonymous #1 17h

I urge u to say a prayer to ur God and ask that he reveal himself to u and make ur heart open to him and his lovingness and graciousness and kindness towards u

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Anonymous #3 17h

no. anyways, do you have anything meaningful to add to the conversation or are you going to try to force your beliefs on everyone? i gave studies and hard evidence. meanwhile you're trying to convert people. wyd bro

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Anonymous #1 17h

I am free to do whatever I want. But think of it in a simple example. If I lie ab something I have to keep lying to maintain the lie. If I tell the truth then I have no need to lie and in most all cases regarding lying or telling the truth it’s better to tell the truth most ppl regardless of creed can agree on that. So if I lie (which is a sin and serves in this as an example of sin) I am a slave to that sin because I have to keep lying. If I tell the truth I am free

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Anonymous #3 17h

ok bud

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Anonymous #2 17h

If ur parents ask u to do something that is both beneficial to u and them does that make u “a dog?” When a man and woman r married they r one. Hence why when a couple receives mail that is for both of them it says Mr. And Mrs. (Whatever the husband’s full name is). The man is the head of the household. He makes the final call. And u don’t have to get married. But u can’t have kids that r not bastards without getting married so especially for women it is necessary.

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Anonymous #1 17h

U gave the title of a random article. U did not cite anything and even if u did by whose authority r u claiming this text. The text I claim is from the word of God and his saints and the Bible is the most accredited text in human history. Even those who do not believe in the Lord use his word for their studies. I am not forcing my beliefs on u by urging u to repent and have communion with ur creator and his bride the church. U r free to choose however u may but as for me I will serve the Lord

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Anonymous #1 17h

What is it u asked me, “do u have anything meaningful to add to the conversation?”

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Anonymous #3 17h

not everyone follows your religion so you cant just tell us what to do. im not sure why you think thats an ok thing to do

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Anonymous #3 17h

the "random article" is a peer reviewed study.... you would know that if you read it. the information found was objective, proven with data & the scientific method. theres nothing to disagree with because objective findings do not care about your feelings or your religion. bringing your god into it & trying to convert everyone means you're ignoring what doesnt agree with your world view.

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Anonymous #1 17h

I literally did not just tell u what to do. I didn’t even just then tell u what u should do (which is inherently a suggestion and what ppl aren’t allowed to suggest things to others now?) Also what r ur thoughts on authority. Like should absolutely no one have authority or respect for absolutely anything than ig whatever they want to do or themselves?

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Anonymous #1 17h

Wouldn’t u rejecting the God of the universe and all the proof of his wonder and existence in our lives and the world and history be actually u ignoring what doesn’t agree with ur world view? Also the things u mention r not anymore objective than what ive mentioned

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Anonymous #3 16h

this conversation isnt going to go anywhere if you genuinely believe a peer reviewed study..... is on the same level of credibility as a 2,000 year old book full of magic that has been rewritten and edited and changed since its inception good bye.

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Anonymous #1 16h

But it’s not been rewritten or edited? Do u have any proof of this or r u just saying that? There’s plenty of texts that r peer reviewed just the same as urs that support my points so why r those different? Also no one questions Alexander the Great even though there is no written account of his record until 300 years after he lived. Jesus was written ab in his day by ppl who walked with him and talked with him. And by historians of his day not even just in the Bible specifically

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Anonymous #3 16h

Well my mom actually kept her last name and I got to choose to use either one or both of their last names when I turned 18 because if anything my mom is the head of the household as she is the one who brought my life into the world. Though they don't fall for that bs so they just work as equals since they're a team. And when I get married next fall, I'm gonna keep my last name because my partner's last name is kinda long lol

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Anonymous #1 16h

What do u even claim is false from the bible? The divinity of Jesus? That there is a God? What is it u disagree with

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Anonymous #2 16h

Bro where r u from? There is no way this is not seen as like absurd. What woman doesn’t take her husbands name. That’s like the most basic foundation of a marriage that the two become one and that the man is the head. Ur mom giving birth to u does not make her the head🤣 this is like so wrong that u have to be rage baiting. What ur describing is literally just ur parents were roomates🤣 like in what way were they married other than they had sex and probably a government contract 🤣

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Anonymous #3 16h

are you aware that people come from different cultures, and women taking their husband's last name is largely a western european phenomenon?

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Anonymous #3 16h

Well my mom was baptized Greek Orthodox and my dad Catholic but they don't really care cause there's more to life than worshiping something. They loved each other, got married because of said love, had kids starting about 7 years into their marriage, and have lived happily ever since. Guess that's the joy of living, you don't have to follow the same book as your neighbor 😊

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Anonymous #2 16h

Yeah but they obviously don’t follow either one of those. Don’t say they r Orthodox or Catholic if they say that there’s more to life than worshipping God (which obviously u should do things with ur life but this is obviously inferring that other things r more important which is not true). If ur mother was truly a Christian then she would have submitted to ur father and ur father would have loved her enough to care for her to be part of his family. Not for them to just have kids

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Anonymous #3 16h

bruh i'm an atheist but who are you to judge somebody else's relationship with god? why do you care what their parents do? you seem to really like policing ppl and shoving your beliefs down everybody's throat

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Anonymous #3 16h

That's why I said she was baptized as that lol. She isn't trying to be Christian, she was just dunked into some water by and old Greek man when she was a baby

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Anonymous #2 16h

No. She is God’s daughter and one of his lost sheep who needs to return to Christ repent and allow his grace to come over her

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Anonymous #3 15h

LMFAO please let it go man

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Anonymous #1 15h

If relationship with God is strictly between one person and God then there would be no way to really tell the difference in someone who’s just saying they r a Christian or not. Also I want the best for all ppl and me offering an opinion on what they need to do and how they should live according to not myself but the Lord God and his son is not a bad thing. Also the Bible tells me how to judge others to see if their faith is fruitful. And if someone is not being fruitful then I am trying to help

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Anonymous #1 15h

That’s a real great argument

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Anonymous #3 15h

you're trying to convince everybody else to follow your religion.... on a post that has nothing to do with religion. talking to you wont go anywhere

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Anonymous #1 15h

Ur the one who made this ab religion🤣 if u scroll up ull see that. All I said was God bless and u started talking ab religion

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Anonymous #3 14h

u saying "obey ur husband" "you should want to do those things" "the husband lives in the greater world and the wife in the smaller world" ... it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that you're talking about christian ideas. then u said "god bless" and then u confirmed that i was right again that i was correct by talking about god some more. dont pretend like ur very first comment wasnt directly from the bible. i clocked it. we both know that it was

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Anonymous #3 14h

your very first comment into the conversation was that "you should want to do those things" referring to doing domestic labor and obeying a man who are you to tell women what we should and shouldnt want? women are individuals and dont all want the same thing. do better

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Anonymous #4 12h

Even couples with emotional issues or relationship problems won’t go extremely long lengths without sex if it’s mutually enjoyable.

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Anonymous #1 10h

Obviously my beliefs on religion affect my worldview just like how urs (or ig lack thereof) effect urs. When u r married u r not an individual but part of a union. Also this idea is not like say in Islam where a wife is just a servant for sex and chores. Husbands are called to lead their wives be faithful to them serve them and protect them. How can u protect someone if they do not obey u?

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Anonymous #1 10h

How can parents keep their child safe if the child disregards what they say? Women r supposed to be taken care of by their fathers and then one day handed over to a man who will be their husband who will love them romantically and protect them. If u cannot trust a man to keep u safe and have good judgement to protect u then u as a woman shouldn’t marry him. But in order for him to protect u u must trust his judgement and obey him.

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Anonymous #1 9h

Also the greater and smaller world. The greater world just mean the larger world. Think macro and micro. In Econ neither macro nor micro is more important than the other. But they r different. A man provides ingredients and a woman makes a meal out of it. They work together and it is beautiful. Greater in this context only means that it is larger bc the man deals with the world and the woman deals with the home. Why do u disparage women for being feminine?

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Anonymous #3 9h

again, different dynamics in relationships exist outside of your world view. you didnt even begin to think that there are hundreds of cultures other than yours where women dont take their husbands last name bud... you seem to be uninformed. women dont have to act a certain way, and neither do men. live the life YOU want. and you can do that without telling grown adults what they should be doing.

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Anonymous #1 9h

If u want to live in a different culture then leave. Do not try to impose ur culture on our lands just as u love to say “don’t impose ur religion on me”

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Anonymous #3 9h

what are you talking about??? leave if i dont like the culture? you're genuinely losing the plot. im not imposing anything on you 💀💀 you're the one who tried converting me, told me how exactly women should be acting, and what we should enjoy (based on your religion... which i do not follow or care about) you're making a lot of baseless assumptions lmao🤔

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Anonymous #3 9h

what culture am i imposing on you? what have i done besides ask you not to force ur religion onto people who dont want you to💀💀💀

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Anonymous #3 9h

if you like that, good for you. but not everybody wants that or believes what you do. thats all im saying

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Anonymous #3 8h

Dude don't call my mom a sheep that's mad disrespectful. How would you feel if I called you a cow?

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Anonymous #2 8h

It’s making an analogy of God being our shepherd. Saying that we r to God like sheep r to a shepherd is not putting down ur mother or anyone else. It’s just stating the glory of God and how he is far greater than us. It’s not at all meant in a disrespectful tone it would encompass every human not just ur mother it’s just referencing ur mother specifically. Ur not getting the point of my message to u if all u can take away is offense at a metaphor

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Anonymous #3 8h

lmao and you're not getting everybody elses point either. because you're still rambling on about your religion that nobody wants to hear

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Anonymous #1 7h

What is it u want to hear so badly then? Just bc ppl do not want to hear things doesn’t mean they shouldn’t. It someone is doing something wrong then they should be called out for it. God bless u

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Anonymous #3 7h

nobody is doing anything wrong, we're just living lives that arent exactly the way you like. thats a big difference and you're mixing them up

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Anonymous #3 7h

Okay so I wanna respect other's opinions but how dare you call god greater than my Mom. I don't see her flooding the entire damn world cause people are assholes

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Anonymous #1 7h

Everyone does things wrong. If u think ppl don’t do things wrong then that’s just foolish and naive. It’s obvious by all the brokenness in the world u see around u. I do things wrong. It’s not how I want u to live. It’s how u r made to live. And when u live in opposition to ur creator u commit sin and sin is what causes all the brokenness u see in the world today

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Anonymous #3 7h

so ur doubling down and basically saying "my world view is the correct one and you're all broken. you're going against gods will" ..... you're either ignoring what we're all saying or you're socially unaware😭🙏

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Anonymous #2 7h

Did ur mother create the heavens and the Earth? It is within God’s divine right to do whatever he sees as best within His creation. Also this is just absurd. Regardless of whether u believe in a God or not it is illogical to say that if there was a God that He would not be greater than ur mother or any other human.

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Anonymous #1 7h

Ok so where do u get ur perspective of right and wrong? If it’s based off society well society has formed those conclusions mostly off of God’s word (ex. Don’t steal, lie, cheat, murder, etc.)

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Anonymous #3 6h

Ok but your god didn't create my mom... My grandma and grandpa did. And personally, I think my mom is cooler than any god. But that's just me 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #2 6h

God forms ur soul. That is what separates us from animals. U can have ur own opinion and whoever u think is more cool is irrelevant to the point. God is greater bc he is God. He is a deity not a mortal

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Anonymous #3 6h

i get my morality by weighing the societal benefits vs harm of an action. i support actions that benefit peoples happiness, free will, safety, as well as the environment. i back up my morals with objective facts that are backed by science, studies, and history. this is a school of thought called consequentialism & utilitarianism, and i rely on science. also, various societies had laws to follow before christianity ever existed, those aren't unique to christianity

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Anonymous #3 6h

are you even reading anything that we comment? we. don't. believe. what you do. but. you. won't. stop. talking about it. you're wasting your time while also making your religion look really bad. you are why people dislike christians. because you don't respect peoples boundaries when we aren't interested, and you call us wrong and tell us how to live. congratulations you're pushing more ppl away from your god ❤️❤️❤️

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Anonymous #3 6h

He's greater because he's himself..? Geez y'all talk about humility but that's kinda egotistical ngl. Is this why Mother's Day is a big thing but god's Day isn't? Does he even have a holiday?

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Anonymous #2 6h

calling us egotistical while you call us all wrong and tell us how to live our lives. you can't make this up folks

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Anonymous #1 6h

No I was calling his god egotistical. I'm the person with the really cool mom, not the one in love with sky daddy

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Anonymous #2 4h

Christmas is literally a holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus. Easter is a holiday celebrating the resurrection of Jesus. Halloween comes from Christianity as it’s the evening before All Saint’s Day. So much of our culture derives directly from Christianity. And u want to mention Mother’s Day? God created all mothers so that would also be to His glory too. It’s like how ur parents rear u to have respect for them. It’s not out of ego. It’s for ur own benefit. We r designed to love & worship God

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Anonymous #2 53m

no ik u were talking about him! i'm just saying he's the one with the ego problem and is hiding it behind god & righteousness

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Anonymous #3 23m

Dude you're really taking Mother's day and making it about some guy??? Rude. After everything you've said, I think you just hate women or at the very least can't appreciate a woman... Or spell "you" and "are"

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