Anonymous #1 16w

i said conservative men who do that.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Haven’t seen many liberal men who understand how to operate a firearm if that’s what you’re trying to imply.

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Anonymous #1 16w

HAHAHA like what is wrong with hunting and fishing and men having hobbies 😭 id rather them do that than party in a charli xcx club

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Anonymous #1 16w

As a guy who grew up hunting and fishing, I feel that so many women having a negative gut reaction to seeing these photos is an indicator that we have drifted too far from nature in our day to day lives.

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Anonymous #3 16w

I can agree with that. But it’s not just hunting and fishing. I see posts like these all the time pertaining to any hobby a guy can have.

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Anonymous #3 16w

Or that they’ve been hurt so many times by that type of individual that they can’t bring themselves to trust guys like that again.

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Anonymous #1 16w

Cool story but sources

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Anonymous #4 16w

From encountering this phenomenon on many different threads over the years, it seems like most of these women have never actually given “guys like that” a try in the first place. If you have personal experience with a certain type of person, and wish to avoid that type, then I’d say that’s different and a reasonable take.

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Anonymous #4 16w

My source is that I’m a car guy and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen this exact post in a with a different flare talking about guys like me. Just because you don’t bother to pay attention to it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to every possible hobby. Thanks for the sass tho.

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Anonymous #5 16w

So hunting and eating an animal who’s lived a natural wild life is worse than going to the store and getting meat where the animals are potentially mistreated? Makes sense.

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Anonymous #1 16w

For real, hunting is the ultimate free range and natural life for the animal compared to any farming. If you’re a vegan, I get it 100%. But if you eat meat, you need to check your understanding of how that meat exactly makes it to your plate.

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Anonymous #3 16w

personally, i love spending time outside in nature, especially hiking so if you think just bc someone doesn’t wanna see photos like that means they drifted too far from nature then you’re mistaken.

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Anonymous #2 16w

i rather them party in a charlie xcx club with me so

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Anonymous OP 16w

If your idea of nature is hiking trails and cute animals, you are exactly the kind of person I’m referring to. Nature is just as much the midnight blood-curdling screams of a rabbit being torn to shreds as a pack of coyotes get the meal they need to survive. If seeing a dead animal celebrated deeply upsets you, then you have detached from what nature is.

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Anonymous #3 16w

a) i don’t eat meat for a reason and firmly believe we do not need to either to survive considering there is research into how poorly our bodies tend to break down meat b) i’m fully aware that other animals need to eat meat and hunt to survive.

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Anonymous OP 16w

If you yourself are a vegan, then I completely respect your point of view. I myself think meat is an important part of both life and culture for humans, but to each their own.

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Anonymous #3 16w

Holding the bloody dead body of a deer and posting it for the world to see on an electronic device to get attention does not seem very connected to nature, go take a hike and lay in the grass and swim in a stream and don’t post about it, just live in it, that’s the difference

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Anonymous #6 16w

Doing it just to post to social media is vapid no matter what the hobby is, I agree with you there. My assumption is that it’s part of their profile as a means of sharing one of their hobbies rather than attention seeking.

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Anonymous #7 16w

lmao no but no shame to people who do that/are into that.

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Anonymous #8 16w

i’m not from the south lmao.

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Anonymous #8 16w

and men who aren’t conservative ≠ twink.

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Anonymous #1 16w

There are farms locally that treat their animals humanely without causing dangers to the ecosystem like depleting too much of one animal. Also, I’ve personally found these types of guys to be pretty misogynistic and not pleasant to be around (personal experience, nothing against you).

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Anonymous #8 16w

Me when my husband is an army vet, built, and doesn’t hunt and has other hobbies

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Anonymous #1 16w

To clarify, I think it’s perfectly acceptable to hunt, for sure, it’s just the hobby part I’m not a fan of. If you live in the boonies and don’t have many stores around I totally understand living off the land you’re on

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Anonymous #5 16w

my ex bf was in the army when we dated, not a conservative, built asf, stopped hunting because he found it to be wrong given where we live but i somehow like twinks

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Anonymous #5 16w

i’m jewish and i grew up learning about how humanely we treat animals that are intended to be used for food, including how they are treated on farms and how their lives are ended because it’s part of jewish practice to treat animals, especially our own, *very well*. their deaths are as painless as possible due to special training that takes years to learn, etc. and everything is done with ecosystem and environmental consciousness too. like if you hunt because you need to, that’s fine, i just

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Anonymous OP 16w

do not see the point in gloating about it and posting an image to a dating profile of dead animals. i’ve seen 30+ dead wild turkeys stacked on top of one another in images, or people with bloody deer in the back of their truck, or even where the deer are propped up for display in an image with their tongues hanging out of their lifeless body. the lack of respect for the animal and the sustenance its death is going to provide is astounding to me.

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Anonymous OP 16w

And if they’re in the south chances are they’re Republican anyway so your point still stands 💀💀💀

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Anonymous #9 16w

there’s republicans where i live and i live in the north. my city itself is very democratic but you drive twenty minutes out and it’s republican central minus the few that aren’t republican

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Anonymous OP 16w

Kosher law is very honorable as far as how it handles and respects animals. And I’ll give you that sport hunting could definitely be done in a more spiritually dignifying manner. I’ll add, though, that hunting in the US is widely regulated so that it actually maintains healthy populations and prevents mass starvations and predator boons.

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Anonymous #3 16w

i know it’s widely regulated but unfortunately not everyone follows those regulations. i’ve seen populations in america deplete to the point of endangerment because of hunting. again, i understand why people hunt, i don’t think the images of dead animals on dating apps are necessary.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Yeah my husband is not conservative either. Not liberal, but def not conservative. And we’re in the south, I probably lucked out tbh

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Anonymous #5 16w

you def lucked out for sure. my ex is a terrible person, maybe not to animals but to the women he dates 💀

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Anonymous OP 16w

OOF been there girlie 😭

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Anonymous #5 16w

it’s roughhhhhh like i love a man in uniform but i do not like how a man in uniform has treated me 😭 dude took the stereotype a of army men being cheaters a little too seriously and did exactly that

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Anonymous OP 16w

This. It’s like the act of killing an animal or multiple is more a power trip than a necessity

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Anonymous #5 16w

exactly like people are doing it for fun to show it off rather than respect the animal. if you can’t respect the being whose life you’re ending, you shouldn’t be hunting. period.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Yeahhhhh, the stereotypes are there for a reason sadly. The uniform is great tho holy moly. However, I’m glad mine is out now. He can finally have his facial hair 😍😮‍💨

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Anonymous OP 16w

Which populations are you referring to in recent history? Only that I’ve seen are instances of the Amish over hunting around where they live, but that is most certainly hunting for survival.

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Anonymous #5 16w

true but men in uniform are sooooo hot 😮‍💨 i don’t even care abt facial hair tho like i feel like it’s so hit or miss. i just wanna be attracted to a man with or without facial hair yk?

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Anonymous #3 16w

the wolf population is one example. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/wolf-populations-drop-as-more-states-allow-hunting/

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Anonymous #3 16w

I j don’t really see why people would want to kill an animal unless they were starving and physically needed it, but then that starts the conversation of the meat industry and the horrors there, im not vegetarian but i like to hide away from the horrors that animals go through to be killed (i know this is bad) I also understand that a bullet is more humane than a meat factory for sure, but i just don’t think i would get along with someone who enjoys killing things, because i dont,preference ig

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Anonymous OP 16w

we have different opinions and that’s okay queen!

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Anonymous #2 16w

Ya nah. Not when my passions and hobbies gets put on blast by a bunch of pansies.

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Anonymous OP 16w

No that’s so fair. I think everyone has a style that suits them best. I find my husband very attractive no matter what but facial hair definitely suits him really well

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Anonymous #3 16w

The sustaining of life through other life is a wonderful cycle that deserves reverence, not disrespect by killing for sport

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Anonymous #8 16w

Honestly as someone who grew up in a family of hunters and fishers and got the (mainly) unfiltered experience of being around guys like that, the guys that post the photos on social media are typically hunting for sport and to impress other men. Conservative sport hunters tend to value men’s opinions and decisions above any woman’s and hold less value to the living things around them. Obviously this is a generalization but it’s held true majority of the time.

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Anonymous #8 16w

One fish picture or hunting photo? Not a problem. Majority of their photos? Absolutely a problem (as in a red flag). If a guy’s only hobbies are the same 4 stereotypical hyper masculine hobbies (working out, fishing/hunting, drinking, & cars) then he is most likely to hold a stereotypical belief system or view of the world and not venture outside of it which is a 🚩🚩🚩

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Anonymous #8 16w

Other hobbies like rock climbing, hiking, gardening, swimming, traveling, etc. being posted on social media is a good sign that he 1. Not afraid of new things and 2. You know he is doing it because he actually enjoys it rather than he’s told to enjoy it (not saying that all men into the main 4 only like them because they are told to though)

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Anonymous #5 16w

I cannot speak for everyone, but for a lot of hunters it is just that - an act of reverence and respect. If you yourself have never hunted and all you’ve ever really seen is the snapshot at the end of the journey, I can understand how it may feel devoid of soul. But what you’re not seeing is the years that lead up to it. Hunters are far more intimately aware of their impact on nature than most people who are blind to the reality that their existence means nearly constant death to others.

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Anonymous mother_russia 16w

This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen about it yet. Has it occurred to you that maybe we find fast cars more fun than gardening on our own? So someone who posts rock climbing only is somehow not a red flag compared to someone who posts fishing only? WTAF

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Anonymous #5 16w

I never said anything about military, but usually (this is just what they are known for not an insult to your husband) known for cheating on their spouses or being gay for each other(not that that’s a bad thing just saying) also they are trained to kill people how is that better??

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Anonymous mother_russia 16w

That’s a very narrow minded view of men. I know a lot of men who just enjoy those hobbies and are great guys. I wouldn’t judge someone solely on a harmless hobby. There also women who post for sport as well and do all these things.

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Anonymous #8 16w

Honestly, I don’t trust other men’s opinions of men. Men are much less likely to notice if their friend is sexist or a rapist whereas women are much more likely to notice the small signs. This isn’t about how they interact with other men and treat men, it’s about how they interact with women and their personal beliefs about women.

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Anonymous #8 16w

Men who fall into that category have a much higher chance of being sexist and not valuing women’s opinions or consent. More likely to be Republican and actively vote against women’s bodily autonomy as well. High concentration of those men means higher risk when dating them.

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Anonymous mother_russia 16w

Sounds like a lot of misandry there. Masculine men (hunters) are strongly against what you just described.

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Anonymous #8 16w

To explain a little more in-depth: the poison jellybeans. There is a bowl of jellybeans of different colors, you are told 1% of them are poisoned. You have to eat some of the jellybeans, but how do you know which ones are not poisoned? You look around and see a lot of people eating the green ones and throwing up, so you just avoid the green ones all together. Are all of the green ones poisoned? No! But higher concentration of poison compared to others means you should avoid them.

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Anonymous #8 16w

I can’t explain how many times I’ve had guys die on a hill to vouch for a friend and then he ends up assaulting or raping someone. When it happened to my sister all of their mutual friends kept saying how they thought he would never do that and thought his feelings were genuine etc. so I apologize but I’m not taking a man’s word for these being good men.

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Anonymous mother_russia 16w

Ya this is blatant sexism now tbh. I’ve heard literally the EXACT same argument from racists. Word for word. Sorry for what happened to your sister. But, masculine men protect their wives, sisters, and daughters. Men who do that are criminals and scumbags, it doesn’t matter what their hobby is.

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Anonymous #1 16w

I literally live with hunters are grew up around them. Hunters are not against sexism or rape culture and hypermasculine men are more likely to be abusive even just statistically. I know what I’m talking about and I honestly recommend you to start looking into signs that your friends might be sexist or abusive or the stats about abuse towards women.

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Anonymous #1 16w

Dude that’s nothing like racism. You choose your hobbies and values, you don’t choose your race. I’m judging men by what they do and like based on stats and experience. Hypermasculine men are MORE likely to be abusive not less.

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Anonymous #1 16w

from my personal experience, as a woman who dates masculine men, they have never protected me and i protected myself. i even was abused by one of them.

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Anonymous #8 16w

I was just using that he’s a veteran to show that he is what a lot of people consider very masculine, and yet his hobbies do not involve killing for sport

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Anonymous mother_russia 16w

I’m sorry that happened to your sister and I understand the caution I would hate that for myself (I’m a woman) or my sister. But you have to consider that there are a fair amount of psychos and rapist on both sides of the spectrum. The right hate sexist and rape as much as the left but there are those few who are just psychos on both sides. But I refuse to outcast a certain group of people based on beliefs (I have liberal friends and conservative) or just their hobbies.

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Anonymous #5 16w

I get you

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Anonymous #8 16w

That’s just not really true. Hypermasculine men and men who adhere to traditional gender norms are much more likely to be right leaning and are much more likely to be sexually abusive. This isn’t a matter of opinion it’s the stats. Not saying there are no sexist or rapists that are left leaning, just saying the concentration is absolutely different and high enough to justify avoiding men with specific personal expressions and hobbies.

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Anonymous #8 16w

Give me a moment and I can give the links for stats

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Anonymous #8 16w

https://www.binghamton.edu/news/story/5138/dating-dangers-which-men-are-most-likely-to-commit-sexual-assault This next one is just about sexism in republican and democratic men: https://jill.substack.com/p/whats-the-matter-with-right-wing

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Anonymous #8 16w

There is another one I am reading through right now that had a link to an osha study but since osha is being dismantled I don’t know how to find the source study so this is just a screenshot of the summary by another article

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Anonymous #8 16w

https://psmag.com/social-justice/conservatives-highly-religious-more-likely-to-endorse-rape-myths/ This is the link for that article

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Anonymous #8 16w

https://www.qeios.com/read/4FVMEK This one is specifically about child sexual abuse

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Anonymous #1 16w

I think you should also take a look at these studies and links. Not all masculinity is toxic by any means, but hypermasculinity typically is.

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