Anonymous #1 3w

yeah they have nothing to do with eachother until we’re getting gassed together at auschwitz or dying together in a hospital during the aids epidemic or getting called the same slurs by the same people or being called abominations by the same christian’s.

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Anonymous #1 3w

No ma’am, we are one community of people. The second we stop supporting each other is the second the people who hate us start winning.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I get your point about facing hate from the same people, but you’re mixing 2 different things. My whole point is that being gay and being trans are completely different identities/experiences, and lumping them together doesn’t make sense. And bringing up Jews and Auschwitz is way off base as that was its own unique horror and shouldn’t be grouped with this. Just because groups can face hatred from the same crowd doesn’t mean their identities or struggles are the same or interchangeable.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I know plenty of gay people who want to be separated from Trans people. It’s not an unpopular opinion.

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Anonymous #1 3w

I know, because unfortunately, there is a lot of transphobia in the gay and lesbian community. However, I don’t believe that’s right. I think we need to remain a united front if we want to get anything done.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Also, Auschwitz is very relevant here because gay and transgender people were branded with a pink triangle and experimented on and killed there as well, and Trump has made jokes about “bringing back the triangle”. 😕

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Anonymous #1 3w

There’s a line of gay men at a concentration camp. It’s happened in the past, and I have a feeling that some people would be more than willing to do it again.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I get the “united front” idea, but honestly gay and lesbian people would probably be able to make way more progress on their own if they weren’t constantly lumped in with trans issues. They’re completely different conversations — sexuality vs gender identity. By tying them together it actually creates more division and slows down progress because people end up fighting battles that don’t even apply to them.

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Anonymous #4 3w

How am I supposed to know whether or not those men are actually gay?

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Anonymous #1 3w

But I feel like that’s like saying Latinos facing oppression should divorce themselves from black people facing oppression. Like we’re both being oppressed by the same people, and we need to fight TOGETHER to correct the wrongdoings against us. Yes, there are some black ppl who hate Latinos and some Latinos who don’t like black ppl, but together we are louder and stronger and we need to stick together.

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Anonymous #1 3w

They are wearing the upside down triangle, which was what the Germans used to mark homosexuals in concentration camps. Google it real quick.

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Anonymous #4 3w

This is disrespectful to the actual victims of the holocaust. Nobody should be trying to group their struggles in with that. It disrespects the actual victims to use their suffering as a talking point for something else.

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Anonymous #1 3w

?? Nobody is doing that though… it is a historical fact that gay men in concentration camps were marked with the upside down pink triangle…

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Anonymous #4 3w

I absolutely don’t think that Latinos and black people’s oppression should be grouped together. They are not the same. They aren’t louder and stronger when they group together. It just draws everyone away to the point where they forget about the actual issue to begin with. Just because we’re facing oppression at the same time doesn’t mean we should fight together. Everyone has a different porpoise and everyone has a different goal

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Anonymous #1 3w

Are you white…?

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Anonymous #4 3w

No I’m actually not. Are you?

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Anonymous #1 3w

No

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Anonymous #4 3w

First of all don’t compare those numbers to the Jewish numbers. Second of all where’s the part where trans gender people are getting arrested? The struggles are not the same. Stop grouping themselves together.

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Anonymous #1 3w

trans people and gay people were also killed in concentration camps that was the point that it doesn’t matter how different you think they are we’re still in this together and have very similar experiences and end up in community together and when you say “ditch the trannies” what you mean is sell them out and practice respectability politics because maybe if i’m the right kind of gay they’ll leave me alone and trans people’s lives are an acceptable price to pay

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Anonymous #4 3w

This is true. So why not make it LGBTQJ. Lesbians, Gay, bi, trans, queer, Jewish? Why leave the Jews out of it? They experience oppression also?

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Anonymous #1 3w

but they are. racial oppression is grouped together and in practice anti racist activism addresses the concerns of both. while the experience of hispanic and black people are often different they’re in similar communities and if one group decided to sell out the other it would be asinine and harmful

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Anonymous #1 3w

Who tf is comparing- 🤦🏽‍♀️ Nvm, I give up. You’re inventing arguments against yourself atp. I’m literally just saying they were there. I’m not saying “GAYS HAD IT WORSE!!!” I’m saying gays were present and they were marked and treated differently. Who tf said anything about numbers?

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Anonymous #1 3w

are you purposely obtuse? discrimination based on gender and sexuality are inherently linked together and our communities are inseparable. and beside the point you’re siding with people calling trans people slurs and trying to sell us down the river to fascists and bigots

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Anonymous #2 3w

I don’t think you fully understand. Black people and Latinos aren’t “standing together” as much as you think.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Clearly they are. Thats why I said I’m done. Cos I point out that gay people were marked and killed in the holocaust too and suddenly I’m taking the attention away from the Jews. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous #4 3w

I understand that I’m arguing with some liberal idiots rn. But the majority of the gay people and the majority of people in general agree with me. Have a nice day.

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Anonymous #2 3w

There’s a reason Trump won the election.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Yet another one that can’t admit when they’re dead wrong 😂 Comical at this point truly, you had to throw in your lil trumpy baby kiss of the ring? Have fun with the leopard eating party and discovering your true “porpoise” in life under your dictatorship!!

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Anonymous #1 3w

Hi chat I’m a gay! and no I do not agree with you. Gnbb

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Anonymous #5 3w

Hi pookie!! I’m a lesbian! (Cos men like this asshat exist 💀)

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Anonymous #5 3w

America is better under Trump. Please wake up and get it together. People with your ideology are sad.

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Anonymous #5 3w

You’re not most gay people

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Anonymous #5 3w

You and I both know that Gay and lesbian people would be stronger and be able to get more done without trans people holding them back. We’re not getting anywhere. I’m done with this conversation. Let me know when you figure out some sort of common sense.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I don’t think any man would want you anyway.

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Anonymous #5 3w

Why is it still talking to us…? 💀

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Anonymous #4 3w

This is what I’ve been saying about you smelly weird liberals. Every time someone disagrees with you (has common sense) you get all offended and lose your mind. Get your shit together. Please take a shower I can tell you smell like shit

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re the only one offended dude 😂 All I am is confused as to why you started hurling insults at me like a 12 year old the second I decided this conversation was no longer worth my energy. 💀

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Anonymous #1 3w

God bless you, and I hope you have the day you deserve, but I am no longer interacting with someone who is unwilling to have a proper conversation with me without attempting to insult me.

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Anonymous #4 3w

Literally that’s what you did. But we don’t have to get into that. You literally insulted me first.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I was done with this stupid ass conversation the second that you put being gay and trans inside the same category. Please grow up

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