What the shooter did was very wrong but I don’t understand why some of you people want him to get the death penalty when that will make the shooter not suffer for what he did. You guys realize he will not suffer at all meanwhile if he just gets life time in prison then he will suffer because he will be in prison for HIS WHOLE LIFE
i don’t know enough to speak on the first two, but as for the 2nd amendment, people should have the right to protect themselves, with the the process of securing a firearm needs to be updated and more thorough. people kill people, several gun deaths is the product of making guns accessible to mentally ill people
Innocent of all violent crimes but still openly expressed his hateful views influencing other bigoted racist to go out into the open and display their hateful views as well. Innocent in the sense that he didn’t commit a crime but he was no one I’d harbor sympathy for EVER. He was a facist, racist, misogynistic piece of shit and unfortunately God doesn’t like ugly.🙂 Have a nice day though and don’t be like Charlie.
You guys..? I didn’t kill him, the Democratic Party didn’t kill him (also I’m not a Democrat fuck head), and as far as I’m concerned some random deranged little military trained fuck killed him. Get off your high horse and go eat a dick from the back I’m not gonna be berated for not giving a shit about the death of a racist🤷♀️.
he wasn’t racist 😭 he literally spoke abt how people of color are given more opportunities because of their skin color, and also touched on how they are quite literally racist towards themselves. the reality of it is, if stereotypes want to be broken, action needs to be taken to do so.
There is a difference between hate and bigotry and truth. If you’re gay and somebody tells you that in the Bible it says that’s means you will go to hell, that’s not hate or bigotry that is truth. Something that makes you feel a certain way doesn’t mean it’s not truthful. Just because you call a liar a liar and that makes them upset doesn’t mean that that person that said that is hateful
It’s not left and right it’s just plain right being who they are at the end of the day. He was killed by a right wing republican that was a little less conservative than him. Should we cry about it? No. Focus on the lives that were lost who were inherently innocent. Charlie was the opposite of innocent.
I can’t comment on the civil rights one I have little knowledge so there is a chance you could be correct. But as far as the black women comment he was referencing Michelle Obama joy reid and 2 other women and this is easily searchable by the way even left wing outlets are reporting it.
So I was truthful and told you the reports knowing that wasn’t a good choice of words by him right. So let’s be truthful about what the left has said about Charlie Kirk and Donald trump. Neither side is innocent we both know that so let’s compare. Let’s see if you wanna have a conversation or argue and let’s see if you’re truthful.
Again I’m trying to have a conversation with you with fact and nothing is provided and you have to try to be rude and attack me for what? We have different opinions that doesn’t make us enemies man. That’s what is terrible about this and that you don’t understand. Charlie was killed but it was attempted murder on free speech and peace within disagreements. It’s not you vs me it’s us vs the problem. That’s where this is all so fucked up.
“Yeah because I own the pageant I can just walk in a peek at their beautiful naked bodies and I can say ‘oh I’m just inspecting, is everything ok? Is everything ok?’ I get away with a lot of stuff like that” is not just ‘sensual’. Sounds like your laptop needs to be checked honestly 😬
I doubt you’ve mourned a single school shooting as much as you’ve mourned Kirk. “I feel soooo bad for those school shootings” while there’s not an ounce of remorse in your body nor a single action taken to help the victims or their families. shame on you for your blatant hypocrisy.
There are multiple occasions where you can see him be openly racist, he’s shouted racial slurs, and no he did not say “theyre given more opportunities for their skin color” he loudly and proudly believed that it was correct to assume any black person with a job more important than customer service was not qualified. On multiple occasions he stated that on his own podcast, other people’s podcasts and at his own little debate rallies.
No??? People are searching through the things the right has said in done because the right is being hypocritical about his death and trying to paint Charlie Kirk as an innocent man when in fact he quite literally spent his whole career encouraging the death of millions and the destruction of millions of more lives. Gun violence is a problem and the right doesn’t even care about that they just care the racist guy can’t be racist for them anymore.
How does having a family excuse you from reaping what you advocated for? Dude is on record saying a few gun deaths a year are a necessary sacrifice for the 2nd amendment. He literally died for what he believed in, he was the sacrifice. Maybe he’d still be around if he didn’t spend all day rage baiting college students instead of educated adults around his age 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah that means that if he could react to his situation he of course would say yes I was a sacrifice for the 2nd amendment, but that in NO WAY means that people who MURDER should not be punished. He mentioned the example of driving cars. Cars are the LEADING cause of death, yet we still drive cars. Guns kill people, but the freedom to protect against a tyrannical government is worth the sacrifice. Doesn’t mean in either situation that if you kill someone it shouldn’t be punished.
Reading this without context is so obvious that he’s being sarcastic. He’s saying how ridiculous it sounds that black peoples need to take the spot of white people (I’m assuming he’s talking about affirmative action) when they should be just as smart. I bet your reading comprehension score was low on the SAT
Well unfortunately we’re a bit desensitized to school shootings so personally when I hear about them I feel defeated. I don’t have any fight left in me over it. But something like this doesn’t happen every day. I know that sounds really unfair but that’s how human brains work. We can’t be sad over everything happening so our brains pick
And why are these people mentally ill? This culture is fucked that’s why. People in other countries leave babies outside unattended for hours and return to see them safe and sound. In America you could never dream of this. This says something about how our culture is creating people that need help. We all play a part in this.
it isn’t tho the context for the video which you clearly haven’t watched is he’s talking about michelle obama and several other prominent black women politicians and saying they’re not intelligent enough and the only way they could be in the positions of power they’re in is by taking a white persons spot. you can say whatever you want it doesn’t make it true. sarcasm is not a shield stop hiding behind it and say what you believe with your chest
Then you’re genuinely stupid. He’s repeatedly spoken about African culture being inferior, said that black women don’t have the brain processing power to be taken seriously, spoke weekly on his podcast about why the civil rights movement was a mistake and why he felt MLK was completely a bad person, even said that black people were better off in subjugation and slavery. Bffr
His take was actually that statistically the mortality rate for black people under Jim Crow laws was lower which is true. Black on black crime has risen exponentially since then. If u didn’t get ur news strictly off of 11 second tiktoks maybe you could understand context. The claim is he’s racist but there are several black people that work for turning point USA which is an organization that Charlie started. They don’t think he’s racist they look at the statistics just like he did🤷♂️
That’s hilarious because not only is that a misquote, that’s completely fucking moronic. Even Kirk wasn’t stupid enough to think black people lived longer DURING THE TIMES THEY WERE SLAVES OR REGULARLY LYNCHED. He was purely talking crime, which leaves out how redlining, actual attacks on black neighborhoods, and various other forms of systemic oppression have kept black communities in POVERTY, which is the biggest driver of crime.
He also loved to leave out that black people have an over 60% exoneration rate because they’re regularly incorrectly/falsely arrested or convicted. “Erm maybe if you didn’t just watch 11 second TikToks” 🤡🤡🤡 and you didn’t even address the rest either. You gotta be either unserious or genuinely dumb as bricks lmao
And no nothing is saving the fact you genuinely thought black mortality is higher now compared to lynching times, or during slavery. You realize slave owners ATE their slaves, forced their slaves to eat one another, even would force them to be used as gator bait, for a single step out of line right? Goodness gracious 💀💀💀
1) talking about highly qualified black women who’ve accomplished more than he ever has is still bad, especially saying that in a general manner afterwards anyway 2) still pivoting from every other part of the point 3) didn’t address any of the basic statistics points 4) didn’t At least have the balls to say that what you said about black mortality being higher than slavery and lynching times is obviously DUMB AS BRICKS
The whole point of DEI and affirmative action, is that white men are favored so much, that they have historically taken positions from less qualified people, time and again. They are designed to ensure the most qualified person gets the spot every time, and to factor for disadvantages in circumstances from the historic systemic oppression of marginalized groups, that take wealth out of their communities, and take away opportunities they would otherwise have access to.
Nah twin DEI and Affirmative action are racist. How u gon look at someone’s race as a factor for admitting them to a university or giving them a job? That’s crazy to me. They look at someone that’s black and assume they’re poor and have less access to resources. Why not just look at everyone’s income in relation to test scores and use that as a factor for admission
Because of the basic understanding of systemic racism and oppression. Look up redlining, Google the many atrocities committed to keep wealth out of black communities. When you have centuries of disadvantage from the color of your skin, the help is obviously going to be targetted by color of skin. It’s not rocket science.
We have a level playing field now. I’m actually going over redlining in my sociology class currently. Obviously that shits fucked up but we can’t bitch and complain about shit if we want anything to change. Mfs need to nut up or shut up and get themselves out of a situation they don’t want to be in. If u wanna do something for yourself or your family then do it. Stop complaining, this country was built on people seeking better for themselves instead of staying in their bad situation
How many black people do you think can afford to sue a big ass company when injustice is done to them? Are you genuinely trying to be slow? And if they can’t get loans to say, start a business, how exactly do you think they’re going to build their communities to guild wealth? This should be common sense dude
The Obama DOJ got out a belt and beat the holy piss out of Wells Fargo. Wells fargo then kept doing this, and there are still lawsuits in court over it. Heres the issue though. Do the math and it works out to just $6k ($8.5k in 2025) per plaintiff, many left with nothing after 2009. So something, but for a mortgage that costs a lot of fucking money? Before 2009? Bandaid on an amputation.
What do you know, the poorer neighborhoods, where they can’t do things to build wealth because they can’t get loans, and have injustice they typically can’t sue for done to them because it’s too expensive, struggles with credit. It’s almost like, all of the issues feed into each other, compounding the problem 🤯
It literally didn’t though, and the practice cost ALL Americans billions in lost economic productivity because this was a major part of the economic crash, because racism is bad and terrible and always makes everything worse. There is no situation where being racists helps more than not being racist.
Well I’m not an advocate for racism. I mean I could be wrong about the redlining thing. Something I’ll do more research on but I don’t think that black people are worse off in this country simply because of their skin color. I think the assumption that they do have it worse due to race is racist in and of itself.
https://money.usnews.com/credit-cards/articles/how-race-affects-your-credit-score here’s a good article abt that with some examples of how to raise credit scores. it is pretty hard to do though, especially for people in low income or high poverty areas. for example east st. louis or riverdale in chicago
old testament is a treasure trove of history, poetry, prophecy, and law. the new testament brings a revolutionary message with the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. in historical and scientific claims, the bible is inerrant so maybe you should give a fuck about the bible because it has never been proven wrong
imaginary? hah. historical accounts of alexander the great come from about 5 different places, but the first one was written about 200 years after his death. Jesus has had about 5800 manuscripts written about him (greek alone), and has had non-christian sources validate his existence (Josephus & Tacitus). Josephus was jewish but knew Jesus to have existed. there is an overwhelming consensus that Jesus Christ existed in first century Judea
Fun fact about 99% of white American Zionists (which includes Charlie Kirk) is that, they’re antisemitic too. Especially conservative politicians, they have shown to be incredibly antisemitic, however it just so happens they’re even more islamphobic so they’re temporarily forgetting their antisemitism to support a country that is actively killing Muslims.
Do you not remember how conservatives were making antisemitic remarks in 2020. Cause I remember a lot of conservatives who are in support of Israel fully agreeing with the idea that Jewish space lasers caused wildfires. Not to mention the amount of Nazis that no conservative has condemned, Nazis that are conservative. They’re just redirecting their hate towards Palestine right now because they want Palestine to be gone first.
Also you can’t be racist to white people, and it’s not racist to point out how being antisemitic does not stop their support of a country that wants to actively get rid of a group of people they also hate. There is a reason that Nazis and KKK members are voting for conservatives and it’s because conservatives are just as antisemitic and islamphobic as they are. There are numerous occasions from the past 5 years that have proven this, you see it all the time.
There is a whole reason that Nick Fuentes and his supporters are actively in support of Trump and are conservative despite conservative politicians donating to Israel. And that’s because they like that Israel is killing off another group of people they hate just as much. There is no cultural or religious reason for white American conservatives to be Zionists, they’re Zionists because they like that Israel is doing the killing for them, it’s so obvious that I’m surprised you’re this stupid
What #24 said but also, in the specific context, it’s not how it works. I didn’t even say “all white Americans”, pointing out how the majority of white Americans who are Zionist do not actually care about Jewish people is not racist, not to mention it’s not an assumption because it has been proven multiple times. It is not that hard to find people who actively post on social media about how much they support Israel and then scroll not even a little bit to find an antisemitic post.
Especially in 2023, it was so easy to just scroll a tiny bit to see something antisemitic. Why is it that I’m the only person who remembers how for weeks conservatives and conservative politicians were genuinely believing the idea that wild fires were caused by Jewish space lasers and this secret organization run by Jewish people. And then spreading that idea online to other conservatives.
People hated MLK for a DRASTICALLY different reason than why people hate Charlie Kirk. MLK thought that black people shouldn’t be discriminated against. Charlie Kirk thought that black people should be discriminated against more. And that the things MLK advocated for were a mistake that have ruined the country.
Let’s take a moment to remember why, let’s take a moment to remember what was going on in history at that time and then let’s take that knowledge and let’s remember what Charlie Kirk spent his life trying to do. They’re complete opposites, it’s actually an insult to try and compare a racist man, who spent his life spreading dangerous ideology about minorities to a man who was killed because he didn’t like that people weren’t treating black people fairly.