Anonymous #1 23h

Do you mean if it we’re christians instead of of Muslims or if it were done in front of a church instead of a synagogue

1

Anonymous #2 22h

It is, and I can understand protesting that. The prayers are what made them lose their credibility. Without those, one could argue it wasn’t antisemitic

9

Anonymous #3 19h

Agree

1

Anonymous OP 19h

Both tbh

1

Anonymous #2 17h

If it was actually illegal don’t you think people would take them to court to get it shut down?

-2

Anonymous #4 16h

Many things are illegal that people get away with, especially in the US right now…

-1

Anonymous #5 16h

No one claims they “got away with it” no one even challenged them. Because it doesn’t break NY or US law

7

Anonymous #3 16h

I mean wasn’t this particular synagogue one where illegal land auctions were being done? Like it’s not like it was outside of some random synagogue

-1

Anonymous #5 16h

The praying was an intimidation tactic. Also many of the protestors were seen with clothes or posters with Hezbollah written on it, also doing the upside down triangle to symbolize Hamas

4

Anonymous #5 16h

Like yeah I see what you mean in general but I think contextually this one was an intimidation thing

6

Anonymous #4 8h

ah yes, it doesn’t violate US law, which is famously not racist and biased towards colonial states. ai has truly rotted our ability think in any capacity

-1

Anonymous #2 8h

I live in the United States. I follow US law. Whatever other “illegal” you talk about means nothing to me. I don’t care about it, I don’t even think about it

5

Anonymous #2 8h

mind you, the U.S. made reservations during the Genocide Convention post-war so that it would never be tried for the indigenous and Black genocide that this nation was built upon. we’re in here complaining about antisemitism while defending the legal system of a nation that would not even try the perpetrators of genocide. i think you’re naive to say the least

-2

Anonymous #2 8h

In the Jewish channel… straight up ad hoc-ing it. and by it let’s justr say… my argument

6

it’s okay, first they came for… and they’ll never come for you. i promise. the law says they can’t! lol, idiots

-1

Funny thing about living in the US is you don’t get to not care about US law. It’s the law

6

Anonymous #4 8h

yeah, the point is that US law is deeply racist and wrong ?

-2

Anonymous #4 8h

and if you think that said racist laws will not come back to harm Jewish people, then you’re an idiot

-1

Anonymous #2 8h

Cite the racist law

8

Anonymous #4 8h

No. If you don’t agree with the slippery slope argument, you’re an idiot

2

What’s next, they’re gonna yell out “god is great” as an intimidation tactic? Pfft how unrealistic

-1

Anonymous #4 8h

They routinely chant Allah Hu Akhbar outside Christmas markets as an intimidation tactic, I’m not sure how you don’t recognize the same thing when it applies to your own people

3

These are not Christians, nothing about it is praying FOR us, even in name

3

Yes the context makes it an intimidation tactic. Context matters. If hundreds of Christians gathered outside of an abortion clinic to pray and follow a woman around and yell prayers in a mega phone that would be intimidation. Prayer isn’t inherently intimidating but context matters

8

Dhimmimaxxing

3

Achi, I don’t think you even know the shmonei esrei, so let’s not act like your prayers would mean much

1

Anonymous OP 8h

upside down triangle is a symbol of Palestine, not Hamas. it’s derived from the flag 🇵🇸, peep the 🔻

0

Anonymous #2 8h

since context matters

0

Anonymous #2 8h

Yes that is true, but in the context of the specific protest we are referring to the same individuals were saying they stand with Hamas, word for word. This specific context it was for Hamas

2

Anonymous #2 8h

Hey, so that’s actually not what it’s based on; that’s what you say It’s based on to avoid the fact that it’s a militant signaling symbol.

1

Anonymous OP 8h

Hamas being the active fighters for Palestinian liberation? people aligning themselves with the people resisting genocide is bad in your mind?

1

Anonymous #2 8h

would you have condemned African slave revolts or indigenous attacks on european settlers, understanding the context of the larger genocides they faced?

1

Anonymous OP 8h

or can we recognize that if people can stand with a genocidal regime then people can likewise stand alongside those resisting a genocide?

1

Anonymous #2 8h

I mean some of the stuff they’ve done is clearly unwarranted. I see the point you’re getting at, and I myself do believe that Palestine should be free and that Israel is committing a genocide however siding with Hamas is not the right plan of action. I mean seriously there’s been some pretty sick stuff. I see what you’re getting at but it’s not an all or nothing thing. You don’t need to have this all black and white view. You can be pro Palestine while still acknowledging some of the violence

1

Anonymous #2 8h

People like good guys and bad guys and they like to have an all good and all bad situation. I get that. But it’s important to remember that you can’t blindly follow your own side. It’s important to discuss with your own community (of people that you agree with I mean) what is wrong. Many actions of Hamas are just wrong

1

Anonymous OP 7h

i don’t. there is no perfect revolution and there will be no perfect resistance. my view is not black and white, it just understands that the violence of those oppressed will never exceed that of their oppressors. one cannot be pro-Palestine and condemn those fighting for their emancipation however. that’s a contradiction

1

Anonymous OP 7h

this is why we ought to understand things dialectically. things are not dichotomous or black and white

1

Anonymous #2 7h

I get that. I just don’t think running to the defense of Hamas is a good idea. I think it’s unintentionally blindly following. I used to do the same thing but I do think it’s important to criticize inter-community. Plus, you can’t always operate under the “well this is worse” mindset. On a larger sense yes I’d say we can’t focus on Hamas and make it equal to Israel. That’s just blatantly false and unfair. However we also can’t just be like well Israel is worse so whatever Hamas does is just

1

Anonymous #2 7h

resistance

1

Anonymous #2 7h

It’s not a contradiction. You can condemn some of those individuals. If you’re not gonna condemn those that raped the innocent women and the elderly and then shot them in the pelvis idk what to tell you. I think it’s becoming less about Palestine at that point. You can condemn how things are done while still standing on their side

1

Anonymous OP 7h

did i say it was just, or did i say it was an understandable development?

1

Anonymous #2 7h

I feel like you’re kinda just trying to avoid the point being made. I’d just consider the repercussions of what you’re doing. I understand it can be easy to just immediately run to the defense of your own side because now a days when you do that people go “HAH SEE! So Israel is right!” And it’s annoying. Maybe just do some research online and see why it’s important. Plenty of excellent scholars discuss this exactly and similar topics

1

Anonymous OP 7h

and all i will say is that colonization is a violent process, therefore its resistance will always be violent. the colonizer dictates the terms and they wield the power. i have a few you should read, Fanon is a start and Finkelstein for specific situation at hand

1