zionism meant that Jews needed self determination after the Holocaust. But when Jew moved back to Israel it caused mass displacement of Palestinians. And the Palestinians felt kicked out of their land too even tho Jews once lived their a long time ago.
And this is exactly why nationalism is so dangerous and harmful. It oppresses anyone living there that isn’t part of their ethnic group
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Anonymous20h
Jews were targeted by mass killing via pogroms a long time before Israel and as early as the ‘30s before the holocaust
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Anonymous1d
Idk I am just trying to have a better understanding because i support Israel but also think that the way the state was created was also unfair to Palestinians and most Jews don’t seem to recognize that
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Anonymous23h
Yea a lot of things are true at once. Jews were and are traumatized from having the majority of their population wiped out. Also there was not as much awareness in 1948 about the issues with colonialism and ethnonationalism
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Anonymous23h
I mean Jews weren’t moving back to Israel for at least 40 years prior to the establishment of Israel without* displacing Palestinians. It’s only after the establishment of the state of Israel and the subsequent war that anyone was displaced.
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Anonymous#11d
True. But I also understand the need for a Jewish state. I guess there wasn’t rlly a place for Jews to go?
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AnonymousOP1d
No religion deserves a state
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Anonymous#21d
I mean there are several Muslim and Christian countries. So I do support a Jewish state
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Anonymous#323h
Obviously what happened then was poorly handled and continued a cycle of violence and victimisation. It’s up to us to work together, Israelis and Palestinians and allies to come to a solution that all can agree upon even while making great compromises
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AnonymousOP23h
It’s not even like Judaism is the only ethno religion. It kind of embarrassingly stupid to not understand that at this point, especially if you’re a Jew.
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Anonymous#520h
My great grandfather was killed by fascist nationalists in Ukraine
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Anonymous#520h
Arabs collaborated with the Nazis and wanted to exterminate all of the middle eastern Jews after the holocaust as well, Israel won a war 1v7 miraculously
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Anonymous#520h
You’re coming here in good faith and I will respect that
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Anonymous#419h
True ofc
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Anonymous#319h
I agree. If only Hamas wanted peace as well. Same with the idf killing thousands of civilians