Anonymous #1 5d

It’s probably talking about American/israeli complicity in the Gaza genocide (regardless of your stance on it you are complicit)

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Anonymous #2 5d

It’s giving obsessed. They can’t accept that they have a different perspective than them

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Anonymous #3 5d

Disagreements and viewpoints are necessary for Judaism to thrive. Passover is a Jewish holiday, not Israeli. Thus, I don’t see the connection. Saying we should feel shame for celebrating Passover is both idiotic and dangerous

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Anonymous OP 5d

You should feel shame as an American and beneficiary of imperialism: that’s the point

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Anonymous #2 4d

You sound brainwashed. Guilt for the sake of it. Do they require shame during every other holiday? Or just the Jewish ones…?

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Anonymous OP 4d

I’m sorry to break it to you but you’re the one who’s still brainwashed in this situation

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Anonymous #2 4d

You didn’t answer the question

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Anonymous #1 4d

The first question was irrelevant and just sympathy baiting. I think the meme answered the second one.

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Anonymous OP 4d

You’re brainwashed if you don’t realize the realities of America/western imperialism. Our tax dollars leave the entire world in handcuffs/coffins. Unable to obtain true freedom and democracy

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Anonymous #3 4d

Sure, what does that have to do with Passover… Jews all across the world celebrate it.

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Anonymous #2 4d

Did people downvote my last comment cause of the tone? Can we try comprehension and mutual understanding rather than reflexively treating any alternative pov like it’s an enemy threat.

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Anonymous #2 4d

To be fair you haven’t really made any argument with substance. It’s mainly just “you’re brainwashed.” People respond better to well reasoned arguments

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Anonymous #2 4d

Like you pretty much have just said “X opinion is bad and Y is good” without any defense. There’s not that much to comprehend as of right now

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Anonymous #1 4d

Speak on it. Just like the “fascist” accusations being used to describe Israel and Zionism, which were resistance products to combat oppressive fascism TOWARDS jews. JVP is entirely idiotic

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Anonymous #4 4d

Like… you’ve gotta be kidding me

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Anonymous OP 4d

It is fascist. Why do you think these guys were popping champagne in the Knesset chamber the other day?

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Anonymous #1 4d

Go read a history book. Here’s a good contemporary easy read.

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Anonymous #2 4d

Israel joins the other 8 countries in the Middle East who already have their own D.P. Laws. Where’s the outrage there?

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Anonymous #2 4d

You still haven’t made your defense

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Anonymous #2 4d

Like I’m totally willing to hear you out and I think there are things we definitely agree on but it’s important to make an argument and not just “gotcha” sentences that get recycled

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Anonymous #1 4d

Do I need to copy and paste the book?

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Anonymous OP 4d

The Death penalty law only applies to Palestinians. How are you not connecting the dots that the society is equivalent to the Jim Crow South or worse than apartheid South Africa? And the people in power openly celebrate that fascist legacy by wearing noose pins

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Anonymous OP 4d

Many in Israel would argue the state is becoming fascistic, it is increasingly run by Kahanists like Ben-Gvir. Would you agree he is fascist?

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Anonymous #2 4d

I mean in practice the law is one that only applies to Palestinians, although it could be used against Anti-Zionist Jews as well The law implements the death penalty for those who “intentionally cause the death of a person with the aim of denying the existence of the State of Israel,” so it can apply to Palestinians and anyone else opposed to Israel, but not to Jewish terrorists who attack Palestinians

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Anonymous #5 4d

Ik, I don’t care that the lawyer speak and SATANYAHU was able to tweak the language so liberals can still have some copium. It’s already been de facto law for years that settler terrorists can murder Palestinians and IOF concentration camp guards can murder/torture Palestinian prisoners

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Anonymous #2 4d

Yeah you’re clearly not engaging genuinely. But you want people to approach you with understanding?

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Anonymous #1 3d

I am not here to make you feel good. I’m here to put the truth in front of people who need to hear/see it

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Anonymous #2 3d

I don’t see how what I said would make the bill any better for liberals, what? I’d encourage you to discuss these things seriously without these kinds of nicknames, it takes away from the strength of your argument even in cases where your position is broadly speaking in the right. It is not enough to be correct, when engaging with politics we must also be effective, because to be otherwise undermines our cause

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Anonymous #5 3d

There’s nothing to discuss, if you’re genuinely confused by what I’m saying: you have a sheltered child’s understanding of the world. First Go learn about the de facto reality on the ground.

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Anonymous #2 2d

It’s honestly amazing to me how combative you are getting with people who have like virtually the same view as you of what’s happening on the ground The bill being worded in a way that they’d be able to be used to kill other antizionists in addition the bill’s primary target of Palestinians is not done to appeal to liberals, but to give themselves the ability to do so down the line and further advance the fascism within ‘67 borders that previously had been de facto the case in the West Bank

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Anonymous #5 2d

Let’s be real, the primary purpose is to embolden settler lynch mobs, liberals are still eating the bait as far as it comes to the non-racist language

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Anonymous #2 2d

The language absolutely is racist and I really don’t see liberals taking the bait with it the way you’re saying. There are some liberals who might try to say the bill isn’t racist but if they know the wording of the bill they know that isn’t the case, they’re just making excuses for themselves It’s not really to embolden lynch mobs they were already doing what they did and for the bill to apply it has to go through the court system, it’s to create a legalized way of doing the same practice

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Anonymous #5 2d

Ok so you’re saying it’s an attempt at legalizing lynch mobs… idk what you’re really trying argue about here

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Anonymous #2 1d

That you are being needlessly aggressive towards people who mostly agree with you and it does no good for you nor our cause

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Anonymous #5 1d

I’m being blunt

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Anonymous #5 1d

Sometimes you gotta break people down to build them back up.

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Anonymous #2 21h

You aren’t “being blunt” you’re being needlessly aggressive and engaging in political discourse in a hugely ineffective way that hurts our cause. If I was going to go to talk to people to educate them about what is happening you would not be invaded because the way you talk about it just gets people who would otherwise be ready to learn to stop listening to you, it’s bad politics

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Anonymous #5 20h

Yeah, clearly typing out annoying paragraphs on an anonymous chat room works better

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Anonymous #2 19h

Posting on YikYak does not move politics either way, but if you take this attitude to people in the real world it’s not gonna serve you well

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Anonymous #5 18h

It’s serving me fine so far

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Anonymous #2 18h

It’s not doing so for our politics

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Anonymous #5 18h

Tone policing clearly does good things for a movement

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Anonymous #2 18h

Tone policing is making an ad hominem attack on tone to dismiss the substance of an argument. I already told you my position, I agree about this being an adaptation of the pre-existing settler lynchings to the legal system Not every comment on someone being needlessly aggressive is tone policing, the definition is limited to that logical fallacy. But don’t take my word for it, look at any definition for it

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Anonymous #5 11h

So it kinda just sounds like you were tone policing

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