Jewish on Yik Yak | Why is it that Jews/israelis are expected to refute support for Israel in order to be humanized? Other countries have oppressive govs like Iran, Afghanistan, China, Russia, etc. but ppl from those countries are allowed to support their country/culture.

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Jewish 13w

Why is it that Jews/israelis are expected to refute support for Israel in order to be humanized? Other countries have oppressive govs like Iran, Afghanistan, China, Russia, etc. but ppl from those countries are allowed to support their country/culture.

Anonymous 13w

Because they see Israel as a settler colony. Therefore, any Jew who lives there—even if their family has resided there for generations or escaped to Israel as refugees from hostile nations—is actively participating in colonization, and deserves to be thrown out. Ironically it's often White Americans saying this, but they’ll claim that *that's* totally different somehow and that they can’t go back to Europe now, but monolingual Israelis need to go back to where they were genocided 80 years ago.

Anonymous 13w

I’d guess part of it is that it’s harder to disentangle when it comes to Israel, because it’s governments have always been oppressive, even if less so than now, and it’s only come into existence more recently That being said, I know when the Russian invasion of Ukraine happened to were was a huge backlash against a lot of Russian things that had nothing to do with the current government there, and against a lot of displays of culture even from people actively opposed to the government

Anonymous 13w

Do you currently live in America? Are you Native American?

Anonymous 13w

We were indigenous to Israel before Arabs colonized it btw

Anonymous 13w

If whites were born in the US, parents, and grandparents in the US then how could they go back to Europe? If the connection goes back to where they don’t have family they’re close with there, how could they return? If their European lineage is broken into percentages, how would you determine where they should go? Whichever percentage is the highest?

Anonymous 13w

Ask them what?

Anonymous 13w

I’m not sure who needs to hear this, but diaspora populations are kind of definitionally not indigenous

Anonymous 13w

So native Americans and Palestinians can be indigenous even if they’re living or were born in different countries. But that same logic doesn’t apply to Jews? 🫠😐

Anonymous 13w

Yes, because we primarily identify with our roots in Israel. Does a self-identified Navajo having some European ancestry invalidate his claim to live in the land of his ancestors?

Anonymous 13w

You cannot be both in a diaspora in a certain location and be indigenous to that same location. This is literally just by definition.

Anonymous 13w

“In AD 135, following a failed Jewish revolt, Roman Emperor Hadrian expelled the Jews from Jerusalem and decreed that the city and surrounding territory be part of a larger entity called “Syria-Palestina.” “Palestina” took its name from the coastal territory of the ancient Philistines, enemies of the Israelites (ancestors of the Jews).” The term Israel existed before Palestine. Jewish people lived in Israel before the modern state was created.

Anonymous 13w

Not only by name. But you kept referring to the land as Palestine when it’s Israel. Jews are ingenious to Israel.

Anonymous 13w

So your problem now is that too many of these people who were indigenous to the region immigrated back to it? Would you say the same for Cherokees moving back to Georgia?

Anonymous 13w

Genetic and cultural roots. Most of our ancestry comes from the Middle East, which is why we look different from Christian Europeans. Same goes for non-European Jews.

Anonymous

#2 13w

Lol coward blocked me because he couldn’t respond

Anonymous

#2 13w

They blocked me too lol. People denying Jewish history are icky anyways

Anonymous

OP 13w

I think their comments just got deleted, because I can’t see them either!