Anonymous #1 19h

The only one making assumptions here is you. Literally take a break.

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Anonymous OP 19h

I’m not making assumptions. Every time an anti-Zionist viewpoint is posted mods take it down, even if it was posted in good faith. There have been multiple polls on here asking ppls stance on Zionism, I’m not imagining that this community has a large number of Zionists. You’re just mad that I’m not some like, psycho crazy person you can easily dismiss the viewpoint of

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Anonymous #1 18h

This isn’t an antizionist view point. It’s you make an assumption about a nation of people based on one video of shithead settlers and then making the assumption people on the channel agree with them. This is an anonymous app. I don’t know shit about you. You don’t know shit about me or anyone else on this channel. Dial it back and go outside. Does your ego really need the boost from whatever you are trying to achieve here?

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Anonymous OP 18h

It’s not based off of one video. It’s based on a lifetime of learning about Palestine and the history of Zionists stealing their land. I don’t know a lot abt the ppl on here, but I know in this community a large proportion of them self-report as Zionist. What I am trying to achieve is recognition that Zionism is morally wrong and has led to a genocide.

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Anonymous #1 18h

Here you go again making assumptions about people. Usually people who make preconceived notions about groups of people based off the actions of a few are viewed poorly. I think you should reduce your screen time buddy.

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Anonymous OP 18h

Me looking at the answers people gave on a poll, the amount of ppl answering that poll, and then doing the math is not an assumption. I am not assuming that there is a significant portion of this community that is Zionist, they have told me of their own volition

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Anonymous OP 18h

But as usual, bad faith, invalid arguments to cover up the fact that you just don’t like Israel getting called out for committing a genocide in the name of Judaism

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Anonymous #1 18h

The only thing bad faith here is you. I’ve literally stated no opinion outside of don’t make judgments about entire groups of people. It’s crazy how hateful you get over someone just saying stop making assumptions about entire groups. Only a sith deals in absolutes.

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Anonymous OP 18h

How is what I said hateful?

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Anonymous #1 18h

Oh be for real haha.

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Anonymous OP 18h

The gist of what I said is: This community contains Zionists; genocide bad; Zionism argues for the theft of land. None of that is hateful. If you think it is, that’s because of delusion, not me

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Anonymous #1 17h

No you came in here bitching about a video. Made assumptions. Called people motherfuckers. You are also make crazy assumptions about people in your gist right there. Where I to make an assumption you came here to fight and your not getting the replies you want. I’m not going to validate that. Have a nice day dude. Get some sun.

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Anonymous OP 17h

I’m not assuming shit. Ppl have said they are Zionist. Zionism advocates for the theft of Palestinian land. Get a grip!

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Anonymous OP 17h

Don’t even know the difference between where and were and ur the one lecturing me lol

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Anonymous #1 17h

Ahahaha I’m not taking the bait. Go outside.

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Anonymous OP 17h

I’ve been there this whole time lol

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Anonymous OP 17h

Something abt nature makes me really realize how wrong genocide is, and how states that steal their land through ethnic cleansing shouldn’t exist

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Anonymous #1 17h

Lmfao. Is this Joe Brandon?

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Anonymous OP 17h

You so would say that, too, wouldn’t you

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Anonymous #1 17h

How’s your YouTube channel?

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Anonymous #1 17h

Okay, so you’re Jewish. Sorry that someone assumed you’re not. Can you please explain why you feel like our people don’t deserve a country?

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Anonymous #2 17h

No one “deserves” a country on the basis of religion or ethnicity. And they especially don’t get to force people out at gunpoint, put typhoid in the wells, or massacre a population to do it

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Anonymous #3 17h

It can be unwon

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Anonymous #3 17h

I don’t want the people to be erased, I want the polity to be erased

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Anonymous #3 17h

I think I’ve made it pretty clear I’m anti-erasure of people

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Anonymous #1 17h

So you want them to be the subject of anywhere between harassment and discrimination at best, and genocide at worst? Because throughout the entire history of the world WHEREVER Jews have found a home, it’s happened. It’s the reason Israel exists. Jews need to exist somewhere where they are not an ethnic minority. You’re naïve if you don’t understand that.

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Anonymous #1 17h

Then come live in reality with the rest of us, and understand that Israel exists, and needs to remain. Because dismantling it would mean erasure.

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Anonymous #1 17h

Are you anti-Pakistan? Anti-Italy? Anti-Japan? Or… you’re pro-imperialist- drawn borders for countries? Or just one global land with a centralized federal power that controls countless ethnic groups with their own cultures, belief systems, needs, etc? It’s either that, or ethnic groups get to self-determine their land when they’re given the opportunity to.

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Anonymous #1 15h

So which country do you have no disdain for?

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Anonymous #2 14h

There’s plenty of European countries that either didn’t have or have relinquished their colonial holdings, lots of Asian countries, plenty of American countries as well

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Anonymous #3 14h

I’m anti genocide, I’m anti ethnic cleansing

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Anonymous #1 14h

Can you name a specific country from the OH SO many please?

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Anonymous #2 13h

Look your line of questioning is irrelevant because it doesn’t normatively defend ethnic cleansing and genocide to get land. Most countries haven’t committed that in recent history, so of course we focus in on the ones that have

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Anonymous #2 13h

Iceland and Ireland for two

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Anonymous #1 13h

So you have no problem with the ethnic homeland of the Irish? Also any thoughts on the Irish and Scottish slaves that the Vikings brought to found Iceland?

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Anonymous #1 12h

Well, ethnic cleansing occurred so that the Arabs could Arabize the land, are you in favor or opposed to that? If you are for it, you’re a hypocrite, if you’re opposed, then the land should go back to the indigenous group; I.e. Israel.

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Anonymous #1 12h

And being anti-ethnic cleansing and genocide I ask again: are you anti Pakistan ?

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Anonymous #2 10h

You can cherry pick examples all you want that doesn’t change that what Israel is doing is wrong

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Anonymous #3 10h

Israel is still targeting Palestinian children despite the ceasefire and my taxes are paying for the bombs and the rest of the country so I care most about Israel

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Anonymous #1 10h

Don’t pivot, coward. Defend your point of view.

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Anonymous #1 10h

I’m not cherry picking. I’m asking you to demonstrate that your philosophy is widely applied or if you hyperfocus on Israel. It seems like the latter. You said you don’t believe in ethnic homes. I’m trying to see if that’s true, you followed your statement by saying that you view the ethnic home of the Irish favorably. This is contradictory.

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Anonymous #1 10h

It’s not cherry picking if I’m using your examples.

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Anonymous #2 10h

The difference is the European Jews that stole the land are not from the land they are trying to occupy (hence the ethnic cleansing) whereas the Irish are. You know full well that what Israel doing is wrong, you’re making bad faith arguments to try and distract from the point

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Anonymous #1 10h

I’m Israeli and have no European roots. Why do you need to erase people like me and my family to make your point. We didn’t come to Israel by choice. Also never ask a someone Irish their opinions on travlers or refugees. Idk why some people think the moral sunshine shines out of their asses.

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Anonymous #1 10h

Do you also oppose the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria by Jordan during an after the 1948 war? Do you oppose the massacres against Jews at the hands of Arabs prior to 1948? Also, even every single government that ruled over lands where Jews found themselves to be a minority in understood that Jews originated from the land that is now Israel. . So you say the Jews of Europe were from Europe OK hot shot where were they from before Europe?

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Anonymous OP 2h

It’s not a bad faith argument. I let you use your examples. You’re making arguments in bad faith by stating that Israelis are represented as European Jews. First off, European Jews are a minority in Israel. Second, where do you think the European Jews came from? Like what’s their singular origin point? They just popped out of nowhere one day?

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Anonymous #2 1h

You guys still haven’t been able to prove that Israel committing genocide and ethnic cleansing isn’t wrong, because you can’t!

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Anonymous #1 36m

We wholly reject the assertion that what is happening is a genocide. Because we’re smart, respect the actual definition, and know the facts.

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Anonymous #1 24m

Go to your local philosophy, professor, and then ask him about the efficacy of proving a negative, especially when the other Party completely rejects the other person’s promise

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