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you’re definitely thinking of leftists. i’m a liberal myself and every liberal i know focuses primarily on the humanitarian front, for both israelis and palestinians. most of us don’t “pick” a side when it comes to lives at stake.
No clue why liberals are on the free Palestine train. When their leaders go against everything liberals believe in. LGBT not allowed, no religious freedom, women are under control, etc. Useful idiots I swear.
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Anonymous 6w

though, you have your comments off and i go by the rule of thumb that comments off means dumbass take.

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Anonymous 6w

This! Idk why it’s so hard for people to understand we just don’t want innocent kids to become casualties.

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Anonymous 5w

That is just not how leftists think at all. And no, the “leaders” of “the free Palestine train” are not anti LGBT or anti religious freedom, even the insane Hamas supporters don’t see them as leaders of their movement, the international movement is very separate from Palestinian politics in the Middle East, it’s lead in the West primarily Palestinian refugees and their descendants who tend to be more liberal on all those issues than even a lot of the Arab parties in Israel

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Anonymous 6w

Unfortunately many liberals think very black and white. Refusing to acknowledge or sympathise with Israelis. Also refusing to criticize Palestinians. Unable to see the good and bad with both groups.

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Anonymous 6w

I genuinely don’t know the difference between a liberal and a leftist and at this point I’m too afraid to ask

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Anonymous 6w

Why would you proudly be a liberal when you’re aware they’re distinct from leftists (too many ppl are too ignorant to know there’s a difference)

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Anonymous 6w

I just don’t understand how you could be Jewish and support the modern Democratic Party. Things have changed so much for the better for Israel and stopping anti semitism these last 6 months with the new administration

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6w

liberals are actually known to think in the grey area and it’s why leftists and right winders hate us so much, because we don’t view things as black and white and are more likely to have a far different outlook than leftists.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

and right wingers just hate us because we are more left leaning and not right leaning.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

wingers**

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

I actually didn’t 😭 idk how that happened, genuine

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6w

okay, i believe you. i’m just so used to us pol doing this shit with their insufferable takes that i assume everyone who has comments off is trying to be an asshole and refuses to have discourse

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

I was just trying to share how I notice a lot of leftists support regimes in the Middle East when those groups go against their values. I genuinely don’t know why my comments were off.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6w

leftists and liberals are two *very* different groups.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6w

liberals, in my biased opinion bc i am one, see two sides of the coin if that makes any sense whereas leftists only see one side because they have blinders on. they’re also extremely radical

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

Nah liberals are really black and white thinkers and leftists see the nuance..

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

Leftists are just materialists vs idealists. How does that mean they have blinders on

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6w

The Nazi man himself??

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6w

why wouldn’t i proudly be a liberal? i’m very comfortable with my political identity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6w

exactly. i don’t want children, or really anyone, on either side of this conflict to become casualties. this is a war that neither group wants, only the governments want it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6w

LMAO??????? i’ve experienced MORE antisemitism since the orange lunatic became president, not less.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

Can you explain further why you dislike leftists other than the fact that you think they’re too radical and black and white. What’s so radical about anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6w

all leftists i have spoken to have never seen nuance. they have a very set perspective on things and some have very violent views. i have seen many cheer for violence against israelis.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6w

it’s the way they got about it. you can be anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism (i find myself to be at times too) but i am more realistic about it and far less a “down with it all immediately” person. i take into consideration all factors.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6w

Are you sure they weren’t rad libs? Having a firm and unwavering perspective and analytical framework doesn’t mean their views are black and white, lacking in nuance

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6w

they ALL proudly identify as leftists.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6w

Holy brainwashed

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

The thing is most of these people you’re talking about don’t support these regimes, they just oppose US and Israeli imperialism more You’d be hard pressed to find much support for any Middle East government right now from even many of the most conservative among Muslim Palestine activists, let alone on the left

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

It sounds like you’ve spoken to a very limited amount of leftists, those kind of positions are very uncommon among leftists offline, as someone who has known many there’s only one I’ve known offline who had something close to that kind of position even briefly and even for him it was only in the immediate aftermath of Israel bombing Iran where his family’s from (he’s also Jewish and got a bit more reasonable after I talked to him, but that was his gut reaction)

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