
So arabs that hate Jews more than they love their children is a subset of Arabs. Meaning not all. Therefore it isn’t racist it’s not based on race or other identifying features but actions. As for your other comment, it was not founded on ethnic cleansing and even if it was Israel has made plenty of attempts to give back land all of which where denied
Last I checked rational human beings do not make it their goal to destroy an entire religion. You act as if Israel wasn’t provoked. If you were taken hostage you would expect no less from America. Also you can’t call it ethnic cleansing if only 70 k have died from millions of people and Palestinians live peacefully with the same rights as others in Israel! Now leave this thread cause your obviously not Jewish
Okay so the saying Jews should stop killing children isn’t a constitutional subset you’re just proclaiming all Jews. If it were a subset you would say Jews that are killing children should stop over Arabs. Big distinction take a logic class. In any case, Meir statement is 100% true while yours is crazy. Israel has always brought up our youth to be compassionate. You never see a Jewish kid with a gun meanwhile Hamas gives them a gun as a present atp.
Your not a bad person for not wanting a war in the Middle East but to proclaim that the statement I said is racist or to act as if Israel is somehow committing a genocide or on the wrong side of this war is preposterous. Israel was provoked, Hamas has bombed then for decades and they have killed hostages and violate ever convention from Geneva.
You’re literally saying “Arabs” (can’t even say Palestinians) dont care about their children bc they’re crazy irrational terrorists. do you hear yourself? You sound even more racist than the average far right supremacist I think you’re projecting and should ask yourself that question
I’m using Arabs cause that was the quote bro not cause I don’t wanna say Palestinians and yes I’m referencing Arabs with the conditional statement that I’m only referring to those who hate Jews more than care for their own. And yes I think giving weapons to kids makes them irrational. Crazy I know
It’s not even high bro it’s really small. 70k agreed by both Hamas and Israel. Compare that to the millions living there and millions more Palestinians living in Israel. This so called genocide of civilians to combatants is 2:1. For reference a typical genocide like the rawadan was like 800:1. It’s called war. Last time WWII we didn’t defend ourselves. Times have changed.
Well exactly.. why would you use a racist quote using a racist term by a racist woman? The way you frame colonial resistance is bigoted and racist. And incredibly small minded. You whitewash it, boil it all down to personal animus while ignoring history. Resistance doesn’t exist bc they all just really hate Jews out of nowhere like use your brain and critical thinking skills. Theyre resisting the ppl occupying their home… when they’re lives have been restricted so much by Israel for decades
Many of them have nothing left to lose. So ofc many are willing to risk their lives if there’s a chance it pushes Israel out and ends their occupation. Israel cuts off their water. Restricts food. Kept them caged in a concentration camp. Constantly bombing. They’re gonna resist, it’s not about antisemitism. Ofc I’m sure some are antisemitic but that’s a result of their occupation and Israel equating Israel with all Jews. They’re not violent crazy savages like your racist ass paints them to be
You still haven’t explained how this is a racist quote and I won’t even tolerate the speaker being called a racist. She was the first women to ever be pm of Israel. She signed tons of women’s rights. She literally built MASHAV which in its mission is described to help people “regardless of nationality religion race age gender or distance” 🤦♂️
If you’re that racist that you don’t see how victim blaming the victims of decades of violent genocidal campaigns is incredibly racist and violent then I can’t help you Israel started with their occupation and you know it. They’ve been begging Israel to let them live, Israel is hell bent on exterminating them out pushing them all out
I’m not ignoring history. If you wanna say Israel took land that’s a fair argument to make. But Israel has gone to great lengths to make its wrongs right. It has attempted to give up its land like 20 times. It gives rights to all people regardless of beliefs. And if you ever cared to study Hamas history you would know your wrong. Hamas doesn’t exist becuase Israel colonized a small bit of land.
Hamas was created because Muslims couldn’t stand being ruled by a Jew and had the 2nd intifada and some chose to engage in misinterpreting jihad in the Qurans in order to justify murdering all Jews. Here is the crazy part. You can’t name any country today that wasn’t “colonized” but when Jews do it one time after getting slaughtered in the holocaust you lose your mind. Anti semetic prick.
Oh really? Nothing to lose? Israel offered them land and things to gain. Offered peace agreement after peace agreement. And if it was really for rebellion against Israel why in their charter does it say DEATH TO ALL JEWS can’t make this up 😂. Keep ingesting your echo chambered nonsense.
Not savages but murdered thousands of civilians violated Geneva conventions has carried out plenty of terrorists plots among much more. Israel doesn’t restrict food Hamas does. Israel has only taken hostages after Hamas took some. You do realize your holding one side to a standard you refuse to engage on the other side and it shows.
Right because violent genocideal campaigns includes attempts to give land and assimilate with the same rights as anyone else. You must be some far right extrmeist to support a group who doesn’t beleive in women’s rights the right to autonomy the right to live independently of religion if so choose, the right to identify with any gender, the right to vote. And it’s hilarious
All of Golda Meir bombings if you cared to read the reports were in response to insurgencies of militant groups. Ever heard of the MUNICH MASSACRE? Your echo chamber probably never told you about it how is this about liberating Palestinians. Go look it up. Then you tell me it’s not justified to defend themslevs. Such brainwashed
I have such empathy for Palestinians and I feel bad Hamas is the presiding leader of the area. But it’s so obvious it’s not a genocide and if it was like the stats say above it would be the most pathetic attempt at one yet. And you can’t claim it’s ethnic cleansing either considering millions live freely in Israel. I want Palestinians free of Hamas pretty simple. Stop raising terrorists and raise a scientist or engineer instead. I know crazy.
I know this might be hard for your perfect morality brain to get but ever heard of self determination? If you can win the land, it’s yours? Welcome to hard reality. Frankly I don’t believe in wrecking civilizations for land which is exactly why Israel attempted to give practically all It’s land multiple times. You’re just blinded from that. You can leave since your obviously not a Jew btw
Are you really not aware that indigenous Australians exist? I said indigenous Australians…. They were colonized by the Europeans. Just like Palestine. And the Americas. Like hellooo Yes I already acknowledged most of the world has been colonized by mostly European empires. That doesn’t make the majority of the world colonizers.
So you’re saying there should be no Israel at all. Wow that’s gross. Israelis have done all they can to make peace to allow Palestinians to have land but no you won’t tolerate it until Israel completely vanishes. While we’re at it, let’s get rid of every other colonized country such as America. Since you hate colonizers so much you should leave. I heard Hamas was looking for more terrorists to join them. You should apply apperently 🤦♂️
70k is not a conservative estimate it’s literally an agreed upon estimate. In any case even if we’re off by 30k. Let’s say it’s 100k dead (which btw is a crazy number for both parties to get that incorrect lol) millions are still alive and seperate millions of Palestinians live in Israel.
Every human being has the right to govern their own body, make their own choices (as long as they don’t fringe upon the rights of others), and pursue personal development. No country or nation state has the right to exist. PEOPLE have the right to exist The concept of self determination for nation states was literally created to justify Zionism
Self determination wasn’t made to justify Zionism what an echo chambered thing to say. It’s a principle that explains how colonization works. If America takes the land it’s now American land. If Spanish take Aztecs it’s now Spanish land. Welcome to reality. Self determination isn’t about the right to exist, it is about who actually de facto owns the land
That’s fair if you don’t think it’s determined by number of deaths, but the number of deaths should be able to help better understand a countries intentions. If it truly was death to all Palestinians why let millions live in Israel. If number of deaths plays no factor in committing a genocide and I say (I don’t think this) all Christian’s should die and I kill one Christian am I committing genocide?
Cause your comment is a recommendation for an entire group. Jews should stop killing children in Gaza. You don’t proclaim any group just Jews in general shouldn’t. Your overshooting the population your referencing. In my quote, it is a conditional statement meaning peace will only come when Arabs love their children more than they hate us. One is required for the other. So Arabs that already qualify, or love their children more than they hate Jews do not apply.
I’m not even denying that Israel has done bad things Israel has made plenty of mistakes. But they have always gone to great lengths to right their wrongs. They even have tried to give up land to the Palestinians. They have tried for decades to not deal with terrorists and live peacefully. I think your ignorant how damaging it is to have two terrorist groups firing rockets at you monthly that you are forced to build the iron dome just to defend yourself.
“Give up land” that was never theirs in the first place 😭 it’s like breaking into someone’s house, taking over the whole house and saying “here you can have this closet. But only order my rules and armed guards. You’re only allowed to move if I give you permission” and if you object you’re called a terrorist
I mean wayyy back when Jews lived in cannan which is the land between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean Sea (aka Israel). And then the land was taken over by diff groups —> diaspora of Jews. Then Holocaust. Then the need for a homeland and Zionist movement back to Israel and it was politically agreed by the UN to give Jews land.
Yeah and the ancestors of Palestinians have CONTINUALLY lived there for just as long, too, what’s your point So it’s like you have a huge multi generational house. One set of cousins is pushed out while the other set is forcibly converted. Horrible injustice to both. 2000 years later, the descendants of your cousins come back. But your house is mostly full. So you allow a couple in who are seeking refuge. But quickly a movement begins to kick you out of the whole house. Even tho you’ve lived
literally have argued with pro-palestine people so many times abt sources they normally reference bc the second one doesn’t align with their beliefs, it’s fake. i’ve been told my info about the gaza population is false and i’m like okay take that up with the palestinian government then?????
Palestinians have not lived there for just as long. Ya know it was never named Palestine until at most a century ago when the Roman Empire called it philistine after the Jewish people’s enemy. And this logic is terrible. Millions of Palestinians live in Israel 0 live in Palestine. Only Palestine has people in Hamas that would kill Jews under their laws. Israel doesn’t. Your skew on morality is gross
I know right it’s hilarious. One time one tried to tell me that Israel was preventing pregnancies and therefore was committing a genocide. They give me a source I look into the author of it from the study on pubmed. One google search turns out the author was a fake Harvard graduate that published 80 studies in one year that is trying to show Israel is committing a genocide which is obviously impossible. There was one small news corp that covered the story. And I confirmed the data on pubmed.
Fair but you forgot the Assyrian Conquest of the Kingdom of Israel (722 BCE) * Babylonian Exile (586 BCE) * First Jewish–Roman War (66–73 CE) * Bar Kokhba Revolt (132–136 CE) all of which were Jews being expelled from their own land. And it should be noted unlike these examples, the land Israel occupied now allows the people it took it from into the country with equal fundamental and free rights.
Committing genocide. 0 stats support that. 70k dead is agreed millions still alive combatant to civilian ratio is 2:1. Rawanda genocide for reference is 800:1. There are millions of Palestinians living freely in Israel. How can it be ethnic cleansing if millions reside in Israel that makes no sense. How is it apartheid?!!!!! Holy trigger words 😂
I’m a Nazi yeah okay call a Jew a Nazi. How dumb have people gotten 🤦♂️. Gencoide and ethnic cleansing is laughable. I’m defending a state that has offered to give its land up. And yeah I support a settler state. It’s called Israel. I also support the settler state USA. Both of which have become great nations
Cause you are sof cursed on Jewish people kicking the Palestinians out and it’s their land. But if you’re gonna take a real look at history, the Jews were removed from that land a minimum of four times. Of which 0 times they were offered it back. You have a problem with colonizer nations look at that
Well the civilian ratio is disputable. Some say 2:1 and some say 9:1 so fine you wanna say somewhere in the middle instead whatever. Still doesn’t compare to any genocide in history. As for the death toll. Gaza’s official said 70k. And Israel agreed. I will trust a both party agreement than some random journalist company 😂
What so a strategy used by Israel to prevent their soldiers from being captured? Is that supposed to be crazy or something? The real thing you should be saying is why that needs to be made cause the Geneva convention bans taking hostages. Oh yeah Hamas doesn’t folllow any of those conventions.
Well if you agree the colonization was wrong with the Jews way before 1948 and it happened multiple times why not deposit that injustice. And guess what! Israel tried to repair that injustice almost 20 times now. Palestine has just yet to accept it. Here is a map of the most recent offering 🤦♂️
Idk what genocide you’re talking about frankly cause you haven’t been able to disprove anything I’ve said or prove it’s a genocide. Idk where you believe I support rape since we never even talked about that. But yes there is a lot more anti semitism on the left now and it’s scary. Honestly tho I can’t get over you calling me a Zionazi. Do you know how contradictory these ideas are. One was created to get away from the other and you just put them together 😂