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How can we convince people to stop hating Israel? It's honestly insane how much the average person hates Israel. Just a few years ago everyone supported Israel now people act like you're evil if you believe Israel has the right to exist & defend itself
to all those who are anti-israel, that’s good and fine, but for the love of all things holy and Hashem, google is free. stop being allergic to it and use it.
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Anonymous 19h

Like how do we make people understand that Israel is simply just defending itself & supporting Israel is simply the moral thing to do?

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Anonymous 19h

It’s honestly not gonna happen until it’s dismantled. Many ppl see it for what it is now and there’s no turning back

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Anonymous 19h

1200 people died on October 7th since then we’ve seen the US government provide unlimited support to Israel’s response of blowing up 50,000 children

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Anonymous 19h

i think open conversations about both sides. israel is in the limelight, and has gone to far. I think more or less we shouldn’t be singling israel out as much, as we should be holding governments accountable for doing harm to their own citizens and others. I am pro israel, anti government.

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Anonymous 19h

People are not their governments no matter how much assholes push to paint every Israeli as some kind of monster. Unfortunately many simple minded people boil down this conflict to binary blacks and whites. Hopefully in the next election cycle there we will see the ousting of Likud and khanist parties and there can be moves towards cooling down animosity and moving towards a lasting peace.

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Anonymous 18h

I have an answer but it’s a little on the nose

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Anonymous 15h

Yall not remember the pro rape protests happening in Israel? And wtf you mean the IDF isn’t committing war crimes, starvation, torture of prisoners and activists, and purposely blowing up children, are all war crimes

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19h

Nothing says moral like sniping kids looking for aid

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

Oh also the whole torturing foreign nationals for trying to deliver aid thing that too

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

Raping prisoners on mass

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 17h

Only 1,200 died on Oct. 7” is “only a few thousand died at Pearl Harbor” logic. You would’ve been great support for Nazi propagandists

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 17h

It’s true. We’re the first generation in a long time to be dumber and less educated then our parents

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

It’s hard to say Israel and the US went too far when Hamas and Hezbollah are still murdering people and Iran still has nuclear material. More innocent people have died in Iran than in Gaza yet the outrage is all one sided?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

I definitely hold Bibi accountable for Oct 7th happening on his watch (and being selfish garbage for the last decade) but he hasn’t caused more innocent deaths than any other war time leader in the world (arguable many less) and there isn’t any evidence he has kill anyone _because_ they are Arab or Palestinian

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

Nah we’re smarter, when it comes to politics and world affairs at least, bc we have access to more than just the mainstream narrative

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

https://www.vice.com/en/article/gen-z-is-the-first-generation-dumber-than-their-parents-neuroscientist-claims/

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

Definitely not the first generation to think we know better though

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16h

Raping then using cats and dogs no less!

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

SA is not funny dude, there’s countless evidence of systemic SA

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16h

Serious answer. With everyone opting in to doomscroll as entertainment all day it’s pretty tough. Best chance is trying to get people off of platforms that make us depressed, dumb and spoonfeed us Qatar propaganda (like TikTok)

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

That’s just standardized testing, not an actual measure of real intelligence. Plus it’s not testing knowledge, understanding or an analysis of current events

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

Yeah you're right most of the Israel hate comes from people not being educated on Israel or it's history & learning everything about the history & this current war on TikTok. But unfortunately a crazy amount of people are on TikTok so they are receiving tons of anti Israel propaganda

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

That's what I'm saying most of the “war crimes” people say Israel is doing aren't true & come from lies & antisemitism

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

For real, you shouldn’t make jokes about it. The full claim is that “systematic prison rape” is being carried out by “trained dogs”. It’s not funny, it’s asinine TikTok propaganda to distract from the properly investigated and documented cases of coordinated systemic rape actually being weaponized by Hamas. A great example of the larger ignorance OP is discussing

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

Exactly people are actually trying to claim the IDF is out here doing mass rapes & war crimes when that's all Hamas. Israel is acting in a place of self defense but the propaganda is so insanely strong

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

Ah yes the 50k children blown up or buried under rubble were valid military targets

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

No but Israel wasn't targeting kids. The IDF even reported that Hamas use people as human shields

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

Gotta snipe the human shields in the head and blow up all the hospitals and schools to stop them pesky terrorists from violently resisting our decades of oppression

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

Did you learn that from TikTok? The IDF has not said anything about sniping kids. That's insane & sounds like something Hamas would do. The other stuff is because Hamas used those places as command centers & bases

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

No I’ve seen videos of IDF soldiers shooting kids in the head

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

Well duh, why would they admit to sniping kids 😭 you just blindly believe whatever the US and Israeli media tells you?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

The death toll is like 2000 Israelis compared to 70000 and this is only confirmed, of those 70,000 about 20,000 are children and there’s a whole lot more buried under rubble not counted

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

There’s so many doctors who said they have treated countless snipe wounds in children… do you pay attention to the news

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 15h

Yes a strike on our naval base did not constitute nuking 2 cities full of civilians and a terrorist attack on your country caused by the oppression faced in the region is also not a justification for blowing up 20,000 confirmed children with 10s of thousands buried under rubble

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

It’s fine for you to admit you have no clue about the activities of imperial Japan. Unit 731, the rape of nanking, Bataan death march, Korean comfort women. Nukes were not dropped because of Pearl Harbor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 15h

I’m aware of the atrocities committed by Japan during WW 2 but Pearl Harbor attacks are literally how Truman justified the Nukes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

And America commits war time atrocities all the time the gov doesn’t actually care about that lol, we are currently funding Israel’s military whose known to torture and rape prisoners as well lol American government does not give a fuck

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

No Pearl Harbor happened 4 years before the bimbs were dropped. Truman decided to use the bombs as Japan was violently conquering surrounding islands and Truman faced the decision of either a lengthy ground invasion war with high casualties on both ends or a swift decisive end to the war. Where the bombs terrible, yes, but it was not due to Pearl Harbor and.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

Give #5 a minute to ask Al Jazeera TikTok how to respond

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 13h

I didn’t feel the need to reiterate that it’s how it was justified to the American public lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 13h

Do you want links to human rights reports of the systematic sexual violence by Israel lol or is the un and ohchr unreliable sources

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13h

You’d be happy if 100000 Jews had been killed instead of 2000 🤡 Aren’t there enough communities for you to spew your racist ignorance on? Why are you here?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 13h

Ah yes cause that’s definitely what I’m saying lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 12h

I don’t like seeing babies shot by Israel or by Hamas lol but isreal is shooting far more babies than Hamas and I don’t want to pay for it with my tax dollars. Nothing to do with the people or their faith lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12h

I saw the article about the 16 year old who Hamas armed with an RPG that got sniped. It really is sad. Hopefully the IDF manages to prevent more cases like that by dismantling Hamas

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 12h

No again they used Pearl Harbor as the final straw to enter a war that was already poised to have America enter the fold 4 years later the nations were exhausted and a definitive end to the war was the justification for the bombs. It was also which acts as the first and god willing the last time they will ever be used.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12h

Nice report. It’s still true. Willing to defend and project the absolute worst violence and destruction

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 12h

Murder is not funny dude. There’s countless evidence of murder

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 12h

If Hamas put down there weapons no babies would be getting killed. If Israel put down their weapons all of Israel would be destroyed. People who actually want less death want Hamas to disarm (like they said they would in the ceasefire agreement).

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12h

Can you elaborate why you’re on the same side as the most violent and deadly empires. The empires that oppress most of the world

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11h

Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath presents evidence that Gen Z is underperforming “on basically every cognitive measure, from basic attention, memory, literacy, numeracy, executive function and general IQ.” And your take on that is “just standardized testing”. We should add you to the end of the report as reference 19

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

Again that’s all determined by standardized…. A notoriously bad method to measure intelligence

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

Also never denied that Gen Z has poorer attention, executive function and memory, that is obv with the rise of smart phones

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11h

If you actually read the research instead of confidently digging in on lazy assumptions, you’d know the evidence relies on clinical laboratory tasks and in-person psychological boards, in addition to testing. As you've again proven, they certainly didn't find any decrease in loudly spamming ignorant opinions from headlines and tiktoks. I know it’s hard, but consider spending a little more time reading, comprehending and validating your assumptions before firmly forming your opinions.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

You talking about yourself? Sorry I’m working and can’t currently read it

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

The point is, you’re grasping at straws to defend fascism and genocide. it’s quite sad to see. You bring up studies which have nothing to do with the conversation or misinformation spread thru the mainstream media. Gen Z may be a lot of things, but they’re better than their parents and older gens at spotting propaganda & misinformation since we don’t watch cable tv and are more aware of how American propaganda operates

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11h

Wow plot twist bringing up the Mongols. I wouldn’t say we’re “on the same side” but they definitely did some note worthy things. Largest contiguous land empire ever and has to be the most enslaved peoples (I haven’t actually check but we’ve established you don’t care about actually research or evidence anyway so w.e).

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11h

Elites horseback archery riding with 5 horses at a time while shooting arrows backwards sounds insane. Eradicating entire cities and hurling plague infested bodies to break cities under siege is definitely fucking mental.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10h

Yeah all Hamas had to do is return all that hostages & disarm & it would have all been over. It's not like Israel wants to kill anyone or take any land but it's forced to in self defense

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10h

That’s certainly another random ignorant point you can bring up that doesn’t hold up to any rigor. I’ll leave it to people who can read and apply basic cognitive fortitude to see how this conversation highlights how Gen Z is particularly easy to brainwash with nonsense both because of our eagerness to consume propaganda and our diminished ability to evaluate it. Maybe when you finish your “work” yakking, you can do some work on reading

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10h

The reason israel is unpopular isn’t due to propaganda it’s because Americans don’t like funding bombing children.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 10h

The implication that Israel somehow likes bombing children is solid propaganda

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 9h

How many kids have they blown up?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 8h

Because they like it? 0

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 8h

How much easier would it be for Iran to kill Americans if Israel wasn’t in their way?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 8h

That's what people don't get if it wasn't for Israel things would be so much worse for everyone. Israel is legitimate doing the world a favor by keeping Iran at bay. If Israel wasn't around & Iran got a nuke the world would be gone

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8h

So instead of hating Israel people really should be thanking Israel for keeping them safe from nuclear fallout

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