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Everyone says Israel is the oppressive one yet so many rockets have been fired into Israel they were forced to create the iron dome, a feat practically no country has been able to achieve.
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Anonymous 1d

Yes the slave masters had the ability and capital to build a fortress around their house to protect them from the rebelling slaves, how miraculous

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Anonymous 1d

I’m Jewish, and I’m gonna have to clarify, didn’t the rockets start flying in after the part where Israel started the six days war in 1967 by taking over Gaza and the West Bank and golan heights and mount Sinai? None of which were part of the deal when the state of Israel was controversially established in the first place?

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Anonymous 1d

Is it POSSIBLE… that, from the perspective of displaced peoples who were basically forced out of house and home and cast aside as refugees to fend for themselves so that Israel could be founded, people who were not involved with or responsible for the holocaust, just to be fair, it would kind of seem like israel is not exactly an innocent victim in the ongoing conflict between Jews and Arabs? Like…. You know what I’m saying?

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Anonymous 1d

I’m losing patience for this bogus narrative that gets tossed around,where somehow Israel is just the unwitting target of unprovoked aggression by their neighbors, when I think it’s pretty clear that they’ve been at the very least equally responsible for the bad juju (no pun) between Arab nations and themselves. In fact, if we actually want to go a step further and be accurate, we might even have to admit that Israel has been the main aggressor the whole time, kinda like bullies, you know?

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Anonymous 1d

…than the other completely made up fictional god that the other group worships… I’m like, “hello, dipshits!!! You’re both fucking looney toons, as far as I’m concerned! Neither of these two religions is any less insane and ridiculous than the other one. It’s all a bunch of pretend mystical magical mumbo jumbo. All the big religious leaders are a bunch of lying ass con artists date raping their followers to get rich. Jesus would have thought they are all a bunch of asshole motherfuckers.

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Anonymous 1d

…and then to create Israel out of thin air they basically put the existing residents of the area on a trail of tears to the desert like they’re not even real people or something and the world expects these people to just suck it up and take that shit because “oh, it’s the Jews and they just went through the holocaust, so I guess we owe it to the world to just suffer through all this injustice silently and put the interests of these foreign invaders ahead of our own and do whatever they say…”??

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Anonymous 1d

I think that’s a little crazy to expect blind compliance from the former inhabitants of these places that became Israel. They were there first. They got kicked out for no reason and without any recourse and sent packing. Who wouldn’t be holding a grudge after something like that?? The unreasonable thing about it is that anybody ever thought these middle eastern peasants like OWED it to the Jews to get out the way and shut the fuck up. Anyone who would be surprised by the retaliation that’s been

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Anonymous 1d

…going on ever since must have been living life with their head up their ass or something. It’s pretty standard playbook type shit. I’m just so sick of one group of humans doing this shit to another group of humans over and over and over again through the centuries. It makes me sick that we are really this brutal and unyielding toward other human beings because they wear a different color hat or their eyes are a different color or jthey worship a different completely made up fictional god than..

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

If only they thought of freeing the slaves to prevent slave rebellions

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Bro is not Jewish 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

They tried to free the slaves. Here is their 20th attempt. Instead Hamas chose to continue shooting rockets. Stop being blind

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

You do realize there was plenty of guerilla warfare before that where Arabs attacked Israel right. As for your examples you do realize the golan heights were areas that Syria is documented clearly they used to bomb Israel. That’s why they took the land they were being bombed.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Israel captured Sinai because Egypt began to truce with Jordan and Syria (who had groups attacking Israel at the time) and closed off the straight there from Israel (which Egypt and Israel agreed to share). Israel didn’t just take this stuff even if it wasn’t outlined in the agreement. It’s not their fault they are being bombed

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Sure maybe some but you should keep in mind Israel has taken in MILLIONS of Palestinians that live with equal rights in Israel. I can’t say Israel has done no wrong but they are a far more progressive state with far cleaner values for everyone than Hamas or other countries. So yes in some ways yes your right but also Israeli actions in many cases are being ignored by you. You can’t be bothered to read the history on why Israel did any of this. Just what the impact had.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

I mean considering Jews until Israel were basically never been dominant in a country and have documented persecution in plenty of countries throughout history it’s pretty clear they are justified in wanting their own home. How has israel been the main aggressor? I can barely think of examples where Israel unprovoked has gone out of their way to cause chaos. And the times they have they have come out MANY times and said they regret it and by the way it’s very few.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

The fact that there was something there for said Arab guerillas to attack kind of says it all though, no? I mean, by definition, guerilla warfare is the tactic of the underdog against a more established, more powerful, more conventional military. To them, they were minding their business, bopping around the desert, praising allah five times a day or whatever, and all of a sudden all these funny guys showed up like, “alright, get the fuck out, this is our house now. We taking over this whole…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

…feckin region now. Europe says so, alright, so just scram, now, or we’ll murder everybody! We don’t. See where you go. Or how long you’ve been living here. We keep this now. This ours. You got a problem? We blow your house up and kill your grandparents and babies. State of Israel. Blah blah blah. See the name tag bitches?” So you can’t acknowledge any kind of like inherentf hypocrisy there? The Jews win Israel as a consolation prize for getting raped all over Europe during the holocaust, and..

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Okay so why does something to be attacked make it okay? The us can attack France for banning us from using their airstrips? Also your wrong the us has used guerilla warfare tactics plenty. And sure Israel did pop into the region in the 1900s but also keep in mind that happened to Israel way back when too in the same location. So by your logic the Jews should be the ones to have that land.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Again the Jews have been rejected across history even from land they originally owned. Yo ur just selectively choosing to push your morality. The Jewish people have been pushed and banished far more than the Arabs throughout history and it’s not close.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

And even if you don’t agree with it, Israel has again offered to give land like 20 times back to Palestinians all of whom rejected it. No other country has ever offered to do that

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Well if you’re really looking at history they weren’t there first. Also do you just not believe in self determination? At some point you gotta beleive if you can win the land it’s yours. Also if that were true Hamas charter wouldn’t say news but Israel.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Israel again is so unyielding that it is one of the only countries on the pms et to allow humans it in your eyes took land from back into its country with equal rights and willing to give up land so they could have their own. They have done plenty of good and you just ignore it cause you wanna. Such blindness.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

And keep in mind most countries your right you can’t practice every religion. In Israel you can. Dispute that

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

So you agree your not a Jew, so then why come in this community and blabber on and on as if your a Jew. Go back to your political yik yak section.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

And last I checked, I don’t believe in Jesus and g-d is not mumbo jumbo. Have fun being an atheist or whatever religion you subscribe to. I hope you choose to turn around and reread history from both sides.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

I don’t think ur Jewish bc the notion that you can’t be Jewish unless you’re disgustingly racist and hateful like you is the most antisemitic shit I’ve heard of

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

You are yet to give me one example of me being racist or hateful. 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

The fucking racist ass quote you used, dude. Helllooo. The one that said Palestinians (or “Arabs”) care more about violence than their own children?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

That’s not what the quote said. Maybe if you cared to read you would know that. It doesn’t say Arabs care more about violence than their own children. It’s referring to a subset of Arabs that do hate Jews more than love their own children. When those Arabs (who love violence more than their children ) fix themselves peace will be found. That’s not racist. It’s a request for peace and a hope for Arab children. Idk how you twist that into all Arabs wanna shoot Jews. Holy echo chambered

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

The quote literally said “the Arabs”… it generalized Palestinians as caring more about “hating Jews” than caring about their children just bc they are resisting genocide. are you dense

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

“Peace will come when the blacks love their children more than they hate white people” Or replace “blacks” with any other marginalized group If someone said that here they’d be called a white supremacist, you’re unhinged

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Holy I didn’t think someone could get this blind. Okay the quote says peace will come when arabs will love their children more than hate Jews. In other words, Arabs that already love their children more than hate Jews do not qualify. This is basic subsets and sentence structure you learn in 4th grade bro. I think it’s kinda dumb to say that Golda is referencing Arabs who don’t do this as well bro. She isn’t knocking them cause they are Arab but cause of this principle.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

That’s not being a white supremacist bro. Nor is it racist. It’s not even displaying hatred towards a group but a longing for peace. Your quote distinguishes a group. Here is it laid out for you. Peace will come when blacks. All blacks? No. Blacks that love their children more than they hate white people occurs. 🤯.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Palestinians DONT hate Jews more than they love their children tho, that’s just absolute nonsense. That is something made up by ppl who are projecting. They love their children so much they’re willing to risk their lives to secure a free Palestine for their children…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

You’re so dense you don’t understand victim blaming and harmful generalizations

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

It’s really not projecting. There are images of kids carrying guns and all the money given to a Palestine to go to institutions like education just go to war. There are literally weapon barracks in schools. If they wanted a free Palestine they would have taken the 20 times Israel has offered land back. They don’t want peace they want destruction.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Explain to me then why them not accepting any peace agreement doesn’t completely wreck your argument. Which by the way is agreements that give plenty of valuable land. And not only would they not agree but they don’t even come to the table. Their charter says death to all Jews.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

It’s actually the other way around you just only follow propaganda sources

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Explain then. How is it the other way around. You saying Palestine offered peace at some point or smth?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 22h

Are you totally ignorant of how things work? Try and wrap your little brain around this one: I was raised Jewish and bar mitzvahed Jewish and everything. However, like a lot intelligent people, I don’t take the old or New Testament very seriously or literally; I’m not a practicing Jew; I don’t even know what to believe about god herself. Okay, so maybe I’m agnostic if anything. But that doesn’t negate the cultural and familial aspects of Jewishness. And the conversation about whether or not…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 22h

….Israel had been a prime instigator in regional conflict really has nothing to do with religion. It’s about nations. Politics. Military. Culture. And you’re a chucklehead.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20h

Well if you don’t believe in the Torah, your not a Jew in my eyes. Judaism and Jewishness is a religion. If you don’t practice it you’re not a Jew even if you wanna say you are. And this isn’t to say you have to follow every rule or whatever but you even say you don’t even believe in a g-d. Sure you had a cultural upbringing of Judaism but if you reject that cultural upbringing which is inherently Judaism, then no your not Jewish in my eyes. Sorry.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20h

It’s fine if you wanna spout your nonsense (even though you have brought no facts to the table and I have disputed yours and brought my own facts that you just seem to blindly disregard) but this community is about Judaism and we don’t wanna deal with anti semetic pricks here like yourself. Nobody asked for you to join this conversation you chose to instigate. And yes supporting Hamas which you do whether you think you do or not is anti semetic.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20h

Also saying this war has nothing to do with religion is laughable and just shows hiw little you know. How can you just blatantly reject such a key aspext for the reason for the attacks carried about by hamas. Ever wonder how they justify it! Their religion 🤯

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 18h

Wow bro. You are just batting a thousand in totally misconstruing every single thing i say, aren’t you? What a fucking genius. I SAID THE QUESTIONNNNNNNN OF WHETHER OR NOT ISRAELLLLLLLLL IS AN INSTIGATOR OF REGIONAL CONFLICT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, YOU UNBELIEVABLY ILLITERATE LITTLE PUNK BITCH.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 18h

How can you just blatantly miss such a simple fucking point of a series of words right in front of your arrogant face?? I wasn’t talking about Hamas, you fucking pompous asshoke motherfucker. If you think all this shit is really because a bunch of people are just sooooo into religion that they have to kill each other just bevsuse of religion, you’re operating at like a third grade level. Terrorism is a RESPONSE TO FOREIGN OCCUPATION. They’re fighting over real estate. You think if the state of

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

…Israel was created in Siberia they’d need an iron dome to protect themselves from missile and mortar attacks?? I’m guessing the Soviet Union could’ve made some room up there without holding too much of a grudge. Where is Israel instead? The same scrap of land everybody’s been fighting over for like five thousand fuckin years, man. That’s some serious real estate right there, ya think??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 18h

Yeah, thanks, dipshit, but I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m Jewish. And you’re a jackass. I never said one word in support of Hamas either, you sniveling little weasel. You’re doing this same black or white bullshit that Trump likes to do too. Everyone who isn’t running around sucking bibis dick all over the place is an anti-Semite? Do you have downs syndrome or something? Sorry, I’ll take that remark back because I don’t want to insult corky and the boys by comparing Down’s syndrome to your

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

…irrational bullshit. Whine whine whine whine whine, man. “AAaH, everybody’s against my people! Why’s is everyone against my people????” Well, if anyone were against your people, I would have to say it’s Probably because of douchebags like you playing the victim card like that for no reason. You sound like schoolyard tattle tale child.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

I’m not misconstruing anything. Religion is important on both sidess I just pointed out one. Didn’t ever occur to you that Israel (although not instigating) defends its country becuase other nations attacking don’t believe in freedom of religion. Of course religion is behind some of its reasonings and what you would call instigating. And it’s not misconstruing you just can’t read. Also holy rage baited 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

Ah yes I’m the third grader not the one who just said “pompous asshoke motherfucker” 😂. I don’t think any of this is just becuase of religion but it plays a decent part on both sides. Especially the Hamas side more so. And ya know it might be crazy to hear this, but most wars fought in history… where over religion…🫥. And terrorism is pushing politics through violence and that’s not okay. Israel has come to the table to negotiate Hamas has not.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

You do realize Israel was placed where Israel was because at the time of creation it was intended as a Jewish state becuase it is the Jews HOMELAND. And here is the real nail in your argument. Israel allows al religion and people to live peacefully inside its borders. Nobody should need to shoot missiles at Israel. And yet they do. Not becuase almost a century ago some land was taken, but because they are Jews.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

If you really were a Jew you would know proverbs 15:1. But you probably don’t. Cause you clearly don’t care about Judaism or its values. You just name call your fellow Jew because you disagree and that’s not the Jewish way. I never said not liking Israel is anti semetic. But calling Israel a genocidal state that has done all these crazy wrong things in comparison so what Hamas and terrorist geoups have done almost in my eyes implies it cause you have no justification and are in a line of support

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

With people who hate and want to murder Jewish men women and children

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

The fact of the matter is you don’t care to ethically talk about this stuff cause the moment I dispute a claim like your dumb attempt at misconstruing the golan heights of mount Sinai you just ignore it and toss it away and move on to calling me a prick or whatever.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

Your also just assuming things I never said like you are anti semetic if you don’t like bibi or want good for Palestinians which is crazy

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

I never played the victim card. I am literally just defending Israel’s actions all of which have been very defensible from any rational perspective. And no, the reason everyone is against us is because of people like you, who make Jews look bad because you support a ton of illogical political fallacies that one don’t align with Judaism and two make us look crazy. Especially in America.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

You sound like you have lost your way. I hope the best for you. I’m not sure your gonna find good maybe g-d will find grace on you. Maybe stop trying to just have the upmost moral opinion of everyone and trying to say your opinion reigns supreme and look at rational reasons why something is happening. It’s not easy for someone to admit they’re wrong and I don’t think you will get their considering all you have done is compare me to Downsyndorme, but maybe one day someone will open your eyes.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16h

Oh. IM the one who makes Jews look bad? Thanks for the vote of confidence and everything, jabroni, but I thought you said I’m not even a real Jew in the first place… right? That’s what you said. So, how it be both ways? All you had to do thousands of pointlessly argumentative words ago in this conversation was admit that ISRAEL, okay, ISRAEL, which is a discrete political entity in itself, a fairly new nation-state in the world political scene, which is NOT EQUIVOCAL TO OR SYNONYMOUS WITH THE…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

WORD OR CONCEPT OF JEWS AS A PEOPLE, TORAH CLUB, OR RELIGIOUS SECT, YOU CONCLUSION-JUMPING, ASSUMPTION-MAKING, OVER-GENERALIZING, VICTIM-PLAYING BABY…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16h

Don’t yall have bedtimes at the CIA office? Give it a rest

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Ok, all you had to do was admit that SOMETIMES Israel has been the aggressor and the one to initiate violence after periods of relatively peaceful cold coexistence. That’s all you would’ve had to do to avoid a whole epic debate here and you couldn’t do it because when you hear Israel you automatically equate that to Jew, like they’re just interchangeable terms for the same exact thing. AND THEY’RE NOT. But look at you off the rails pissed off and crying foul like a little bitch telling me I’m…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

…automatically a raging anti-Semite, the next Adolph Hitler himself over here, because I say one supposedly negative thing about the state Israel. You’re just a propagandist, not an earnest scholar.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16h

Bitch, please! You put more words in my mouth than your mother puts dicks in her mouth! I did not name call you for disagreeing. I name called you for your rush to judgment while basing your ad hominem attacks on total distortions of my actual statements. I never said I didn’t like Israel either, you fucking aggravating degenerate asshole. All I was trying to say was that Israel has sometimes been the first to throw a punch after periods of relative peace. Never did I say I’m against Israel or..

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14h

Yeah you make Jews look bad cause your opinions make us look nuts and you claim to be a Jew when you are anything but apparently. And I don’t blame you for not noticing cause there are plenty of comments on here but I do acknowledge Israel has done wrong I can name quite a few examples. But what’s unique about Israel is their responses after have always been pretty decent. In many cases they have come out saying they regret their decision and have paid money to make it right.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14h

I have no problem with a jew that doesn’t like Israel. I have a problem with a jew that supports what Hamas is doing to Israel or trying to somehow justify the murder of Jewish people. They literally in their charter have death to Jews.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14h

Your anti semetic not cause you hate Israel and I never said your Hitler. The problem with you is your justifying the murder of Jews who have done everything they can to be fair to Palestinians. And half the time you have no evidence backing it have brought nothing to the table except the fact that you claim Jews are the aggressors. You say I’m a propagandist but don’t engage in anything I say and just name call.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14h

Idk why you bring my mother into this. Gross. Your entire original comment about golan heights and mount sinai I gave evidence against and you chose to ignore it. I never said it’s anti semetic to not like Israel plenty of Jews don’t. I have a problem with trying to justify what Hamas does in light of some wrong Israel made almost a century ago. And I agree it’s fair to say Israel was wrong for that I literally said that was fair in a m earlier comment.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 14h

But I also said Israel has gone to great lengths to solve that problem. Something you just happily disregard in your rampage to show how bad Israel apperently is.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11h

Or I just don’t like them. So don’t misquote me like that. My statements have been about the political entity of Israel, a country, not about evaluations of the Jewish religion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2h

Yeah but your statements justify the actions of a group that in their charter has called for the death of all Jews. Which by the way is the ideology of a real type of ethnic cleansing if your curious. Even if you don’t say you hate Jews, supporting people that do is just as bad. And again you are yet to even dispute what I told you about the golan heights or mount sinai. Probably again cause it doesn’t fit your narrative.

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