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Tik tok lesbian fights are on the rise again. I personally don’t agree / maybe don’t get it? If you want to be a man I don’t see how identifying as a lesbian helps with it as its non-men?? Idk And I do understand trans masc and trans men are different -
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Anonymous 13w

I’m not particularly informed on this subject as I’m not a lesbian, but I do know that for trans men that previously ID-d as a lesbian, the label, culture, and queer attraction to women are such a core part of their identity that being a lesbian cannot be dismissed from their new understanding of themselves. In this case, some trans men feel that identifying as lesbian is what best describes who they are in the context of who they have been

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Anonymous 13w

I think it's good you're trying to gain perspective but I do just want to add that even if you never understand it you should still respect it we really don't need to debate over the validity of other people's identities yk real peoples identities are complex and you'll find as you venture into irl queer communities, especially those with older members, they'll use all kind of descriptors for themselves that won't fall into the standard or known meaning for the words

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Anonymous 13w

I also understand lesbians were ome of the first groups to support trans people, and maybe I need to do more research on it all?? I just think if you want to be seen as a man but also have the lesbian label it could be invalidating to either or label, and or invalidating a group of people? I also think could be men possibly invading spaces made for non men, because women have no true space anymore (personal experience) but I could also be wrong on that? -

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13w

At the end of it all though I don’t care at the same time?? It’s not my business as what you identify as cause it isn’t my business? And I have always seen labels as a whatever thing, I just know what I like and don’t like

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13w

And if anyone can point me into the direction to where I can learn more about it I am fully open to it!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

I guess what I can’t wrap my head around is you are now a man, and if you want to label yourself as a lesbian I don’t think I can see you fully as a man? Its a shitty thing to say and I can understand that. Idk I think you are still queer, you are now experiencing a new queer experience and don’t fit into this one section anymore. You can memorize it lovingly but that chapter needs to be closed. You still can love other queer women and such

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13w

Idk you can try asking a question in the Trans Talk chat, maybe someone there can help?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

I definitely will, I have also posted it in lesbian based groups. I want new eyes from all groups because most of my friends are on my side, and I don’t want to get stuck in a possible echo chamber

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13w

I respect that!! Good on you for searching for diverse perspectives. I hope you find the answers you’re looking for :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

I appreciate it!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13w

Oh for sure, like I said at the end of the day I don’t care and labels are just for the personal person more and more. Older queer people I know don’t care for labels anymore and just go for what they love, identity has never held them back, and even now if I talk to them about labels they get confused and just go on how they never cared or how it’s all to confusing and can box people in.

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