Anonymous #2 14w

woke version of YWNBAM

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Anonymous #3 14w

Not woke enough to understand what YWNBAM😭

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Anonymous #2 14w

Yeah I can tell; fortunately for you Google is free

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Anonymous #2 14w

YWNBAM/YWNBAW is abbreviated “you will never be a man/woman” that transphobes say

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Anonymous #3 14w

Oh 😭 that wasn’t my stance. Trans men/masc can have sapphic relationships because of their social upbringing. I personally wouldn’t use the label. Whether they use the label or not is up to them. There’s so much nuance to this conversation that needs to be addressed.

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Anonymous #2 14w

What is a “sapphic relationship” if not between women/femme-identifying people, then?

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Anonymous #1 14w

I actually learned how to use em dashes in English class while y’all were drawing eyes

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Anonymous #3 14w

Oh, so you're just naturally a hateful moron?

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Anonymous #4 14w

My point was that trans men cannot be lesbians. I could’ve and should’ve worded it better

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Anonymous #3 14w

Why do we care? Is a trans man and their partner calling themselves lesbian hurting anyone? Chronically online incel behavior, all of this

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Anonymous #5 14w

Because it’s literally sex-essentialism? Hello? Which one of us is woke? If I said a trans man and his gf were actually a lesbian couple it’d be rude and wildly invalidating for them both; especially him.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Putting that label on them isn’t cool, but if that’s what they call themselves, they can go ahead. I guess in my mind that’s part of the nonbinary nature of transness, where someone can identify as mostly male, but still feel lesbian fits them best. “Actually trans men are lesbians” is different from “I still think of myself as a lesbian.”

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Anonymous #5 14w

Why would a man think of himself as a lesbian? 🤔

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Anonymous #3 14w

Because trans people aren’t a monolith. Labels just help us understand each other, they’re not definitive.

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Anonymous #5 14w

Well since you don’t like definitive labels, I’m gonna switch the tags on all the spice jars in you pantry 💀😭

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Anonymous #5 14w

Literally just asking people to do their own thing

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Anonymous #3 14w

I think people shouldn’t correct each other on how they label themselves. I imagine we agree on that. People trying to do that should be told off. I didn’t see your original comment since it seems to have been deleted, but I’m just generally tired of arguing about labels when simply accepting people for who they are should be enough

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Anonymous #3 14w

That’s the generic definition. But identify and sexually is fluid. We shouldn’t be policing labels nor giving labels to people whose identity we don’t understand as a whole. For example, there are masc lesbians who use him/him pronouns. This isn’t a new concept. If they choose to take T that doesn’t change anything about their identity.

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Anonymous #3 14w

I know you're being sarcastic but when you really think about it. Different spices have different brands who make them 😭💀

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Anonymous #3 14w

people aren’t spice jars, and labels aren’t for your benefit. just bc you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. we’ve fought to have the right to our identity and you insult others for using that right in their own lives. please be self aware.

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