Anonymous OP 1d

Yeah so I think this is confirmation that you need to log off

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Anonymous #2 1d

I mean it is something that happens

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m not a terf at all I can promise you that. Speaking from personal experience of what I’ve seen online, and heard about IRL. If I was a terf I wouldn’t be speaking positively about trans men either 😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 1d

Okay my bad. Smells like transmisogyny

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Anonymous #1 1d

Opposite. I think the most misogyny is coming from cishet men, cishet women, and trans women

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No. I’m a cis lesbian. Idk why it’s so hard for you to comprehend someone calling out trans women for misogyny… it’s a little weird how quickly you are to jump to the defense of someone who called me a foid

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Anonymous #2 1d

Oh you thought you ate with that as if this isn’t a real issue I’m talking about. You sound like the men who tell women they’re lying about rape cuz they can’t comprehend how their boys could ever do something harmful

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Anonymous OP 1d

Where did i come to the defense of anyone. That sucks and is unacceptable behavior but i hear terfs saying shit like this all the time attributing transfem issues to "male socialization" making them more aggro or whatever and that sucks too

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m not a terf, I’m a reasonable person. I love trans people, I hate misogyny. There’s been multiple occasions where trans women specifically had been misogynistic toward me or someone I care about. It has nothing to do with their transness, but male socialization is entirely real thing unfortunately. Cis people are socialized too. We all are.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Okay, so. What the fuck? I genuinely don’t understand why the hell you think that that’s an appropriate response. I said that you should log off, which I said because you’re describing a phenomenon which happens primarily in online spaces. And you compare me to a rape apologist. Genuinely fuck you.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I didn’t call out the terf-y rhetoric, I didn’t say that you were lying and that this never happened, I didn’t call your comments transmisogynistic. But all of those are EXTREMELY valid criticisms I could have made. I chose not to because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. I no longer want to do that.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I mean me too girl but im not going around saying shit like trans men are less threatening and male socialization makes trans women misogynists. Obv we are all socialized and that affects how we grow up but you are parroting terf talking points

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Anonymous OP 1d

“Not a transmisognynist” “I think that the most misogyny is coming from cishet men, cishet women, and *trans women*” (emphasis added) Your claim is suspect.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I don’t like TERFs, idek what they say. I’m speaking from my knowledge and own thoughts

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Anonymous OP 1d

Girl if ur trying to be an ally or whatever u gotta be aware of transmisogyny your ignorance isnt helping your point 😭

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Anonymous OP 1d

“I don’t like TERFs” followed by “I don’t even know what they say” is a ridiculous statement. But following it with the sentence “I’m speaking from my knowledge and my own thoughts.” That’s transcendent. That’s COMEDY. And pro tip: just because you’re “speaking from [your] knowledge and own thoughts” doesnt make something NOT terf shit.

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Anonymous #2 1d

You so badly want me to be a terf because you can’t comprehend a leftist saying that trans women can be just as misogynistic as men. Misogyny isn’t reserved for just men.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m talking about all misogyny. Not trans misogyny. I don’t like how some trans women get a pass to be absolute redpilled incels just because they’re trans. It’s the same reason I get pissed at cishet pick me girls. It drives me nuts to see people from my own gender treating other women like that. If that makes me a terf then sure

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Anonymous #2 1d

There is zero reason why you should have an issue with what I posted and commented. You basically told me to leave the app because I said some trans women are regurgitating incel language and redpilled ideology. That’s something you tell someone to do when you can’t handle a truth or think someone is lying. So yes, I perceived your reply as you thinking I’m lying and am secretly a TERF

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Anonymous OP 1d

Leftist is as leftist does. Same for TERFs. Sorry you don’t like my conclusions, but they’re not arbitrary.

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Anonymous OP 1d

“Leave the app?” girl. I said you should log off. I didn’t say you should leave the app. Sorry if I came off strong, but I think you need to take a break from the internet, if you’re encountering trans women misogynists often enough that it makes you say terf-y things.

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Anonymous OP 1d

And you called me a rape apologist, in NO uncertain terms. Genuinely, I think that you need to piss off and go touch grass and drink calming tea or something. This shit is not normal and not okay.

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Anonymous OP 1d

“I don’t get how some trans women get a pass to be absolute redpilled incels” THEY DONT. What world are you living in where they do? Also, and I can’t fucking believe I have to explain this to a self-identified “leftist,” “transmisogyny” is a word that means “misogyny specifically against trans women” and not “misogyny done by trans women”

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Anonymous #2 1d

Boi calm down. Yelling at me and telling ME to relax in the same breath 😭😭. You invalidated me and you were giving the vibe of the many men I’ve met who tell me im lying about their friend raping me

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Anonymous OP 1d

I’m taking very deep breaths right now. Because i didn’t yell at you. Maybe you have a hard time with tone over text, but i think that the sentence I typed that reads “sorry if i came off strong” is pretty clear. And stop comparing me to rape apologists. I have done nothing that warrants that comparison. …and I think it’s important to note how you’ve used masculine language to refer to me. That might be telling.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Girl it doesnt make u a terf to say trans women are capable of misogyny it actually can be a significant issue same with cis women and cis/trans men. Its the specific rhetoric youre using i took issue with

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Anonymous OP 1d

I vividly remember when a trans women herself came on here and talked about how she was disgusted with how other trans woman use 4chan terminology and disrespect cis women and even she got downvoted. 🫩

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Anonymous #2 1d

Girl wtf are you talking about. I say boi to everyone. And how tf am I supposed to know ur gender

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Anonymous #1 1d

What rhetoric did I use … Male socialization is a real thing. I hate to break it to you. Same with female socialization. People condition you based of your perceived gender. It’s a fact.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I already answered this three hours ago. Im specifically talking about the og post and the comparison in including how you feel less threatened by trans men comparitively and including that in conjunction with this other stuff like with socialization thats very similar to terf rhetoric. I dont think youre a terf moreso cautioning about the rhetoric. Trans women arent misogynists because of some unchangeable socialization. They have more responsibility in their bigotry than that

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Anonymous OP 1d

You’ve deliberately compared me to *explicitly* male rape apologists. As for calling me “boi,” how was I supposed to know that you call everyone boi? Setting aside why you’d do that in the first place, how am I even supposed to know that you’re being truthful? It was another instance in a pattern. That’s what I’m pointing out.

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Anonymous #2 1d

And I think there’s more important stuff in the comment you responded to than that little footnote.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I mean trans men can be just as awful as cis men but it’s less likely. But I’d argue lots of trans men have far worse misogyny and repressed former internalized misogyny and weaponize it as a means to fit in with the cis male normative

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Anonymous #3 1d

Yeah ive seen this and tbh experienced it. As a transmasc things that i used to say when i presented femininely now come off differently now that i present more masculinely, and its up to me to be aware of it. Regardless of the context of the behavior the current manifestation is what i have control over, same with trans women or cis women or cis men or whoever

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Anonymous #2 1d

Ur crazy cuz how tf was I supposed to know ur gender ??? U reminded me of what men say to me when they try to insinuate that I’m making things up. If that triggered some sort of dysmorphia, that’s not on me. Speaking to you how id speak to anybody

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Anonymous OP 1d

bro 🫩

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Anonymous #3 1d

First it’s don’t assume gender and now it’s assume gender. Like pick bruh

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Anonymous OP 1d

Gender neutral terms exist, you doorknob.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Boi and girl are gender neutral. Yk how many times I’ve said both to both genders? Like holy reach. Go speak to ur therapist lmao

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Anonymous #2 1d

People literally say girl to gay men. Like it isn’t gendered. Same way people say “guys”

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Anonymous OP 1d

You probably dont know this but this is quite literally transmisogyny 101 to respond to someone you misgendered to be like "oh no actually i misgender ppl all the time and no one else cares so you shouldnt"

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Anonymous OP 1d

1) No, I don’t know how many times you’ve said it to people of any gender (you said “both” btw, interesting). Like you said, you don’t know me. 2) Again, I feel like you missed the part where I *explicitly* said that it was one instance in a pattern. And that you compared me to *explicitly* male *rape* *apologists.*

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Anonymous #1 1d

Well, she doesn’t even know what transmisogyny is. So I think you’re right that she doesn’t know this.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Ur out of ur fucking mind lmao. I didn’t misgender someone who didn’t have a picture or say their gender. Ur so weird like get a grip lol. All I see is #1. Ain’t no way ur butthurt over a stranger using gender neutral phrases

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Anonymous #1 1d

U are going out of ur way to hurt your own feelings by creating a narrative that you were misgendered. Like with all due respect, ur only hurting urself

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Anonymous OP 1d

Ur not misgendering me im not saying you are. Maybe i shouldve used the language "inappropriate gendered language" my feelings arent hurt cuz you havent done anything besides be a dumbass lmao im just saying just cuz it isnt gendered to you doesnt mean it isnt literally gendered and that mayb affect ppl

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