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I’m Catholic and queer, and I don’t know what to do. Do I abandon my God or myself? Everyone tells me I have to abandon everything that isn’t in Gods plan but… I don’t see how me being in love would ever be against His plan.
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Anonymous 15h

Thank you all for being kind in the comments, but honestly I’ve gotten 15 messages for me to kms over this. I’m clearly not wanted here, and that’s ok. God bless you all.

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Anonymous 15h

well you are queer it’s not something you can abandon it’s your identity

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Anonymous 14h

Your relationship with god is whatever you want it to be. It’s YOUR relationship. Fuck what #1 is saying.

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Anonymous 15h

I’m personally not religious and wasn’t raised catholic, but in my opinion I don’t see why a loving god would create gay people only for them to be wrong. Also if Jesus truly died for our sins, shouldn’t it be forgiven even if it is a sin? Also like.. if god does hate gay people or whatever, is that truly a god you’d like? Imagine being the literal creator of the universe and going “hmm but women and woman who kiss is bad.. they should be contributing to overpopulation instead”

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Anonymous 15h

You should look into the episcopal church. Many are more welcoming but still are somewhat close to Catholic Churches. They allow same sex marriage, female priests, and do not align with the pope or the Catholic Church but seem to be similar in the saint thing and tradition in the church

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Anonymous 15h

You don’t have to give up either; the Catholic Church is actually pretty accepting of gay people *in theory,* it’s policy from the Vatican so it’s wild that it’s even controversial but whatever, bigots gonna bigot ig. I’ve heard good things about the episcopal church in the US, idk about abroad, and I trust the person I heard good things from (she has a masters in Divinity and is a feminist, antiracist, and a strong ally)

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Anonymous 15h

honestly don't ever decide something your gonna regret in the future like abandoning yourself, you only have one life don't waste it and if your god doesn't accept you and the people around you are telling you shit like that then idk it's up to you after all...

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Anonymous 15h

I'm sorry you're struggling with this. I used to have this issue when I was a kid but I am a proud atheist chud now so... Idk how to help you haha. Just know that things can be sorted out.

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Anonymous 15h

#1 is an incel or rage baiter or other psycho, I already have them blocked. they're only here to be upsetting to as many people as they can. you should also block them

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Anonymous 4h

op i was raised catholic but i had major ideological gripes with the church from the time i was a child, the most major of the two being its stance on gay marriage and the claim that non-believers would go to hell. your options are discard what the church believes and follow your own path, whether or not you continue to call yourself catholic, or aligning yourself with an institution that rallies itself against causes jesus himself would have supported.

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Anonymous 4h

The Episcopal church is very supportive and queer affirming. Similar feel to the Catholic service. And no, I don’t think you’re going against God’s plan by loving someone of the same sex.

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Anonymous 42m

If God made you queer then you need to live the truth that He gave you, being queer isn’t the same as sinning

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Anonymous 15h

Well you’re not welcome here, that’s for sure. You can’t claim to be queer while actively supporting institutions that hurt other queer people. You disgust me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Why do you think this is an okay thing to say to someone who’s struggling

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

Because they aren’t welcome here and we can’t normalize oppressors trying to cosplay as queer.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

How are they an oppressor because they’re queer and confused and scared?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

The Catholic Church has oppressed queer people for centuries. They want to be part of that, so they can’t be allowed to call themselves queer. If we were to mix the oppressed and the oppressor it would just give them more ways to hurt us.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

They have. But there’s going to be queer people born and raised Catholic, and they shouldn’t be called disgusting for being unsure of what to do. You’ll just push them into repression telling them they’re not queer because they were raised Catholic??

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

have you considered this might be one of those queer people victimized by the oppressive catholic church that needs help getting away from that oppression

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

You think this confused queer person who’s being told they’re an abomination by the church and those around them ISNT one of the queer people being oppressed by the church?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15h

They’re choosing to hold onto the church, even after knowing how they feel about gay people. Why would a homophobic person be welcomed here?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Was this you?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

Block the dm and see if the messages here disappear

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

It was absolutely them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

Wait no, not them, their comments are still here

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Hey literally what’s wrong with you

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

No but agree

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 15h

I also already had them blocked, I recommend everyone else block them too. I don’t block many people so if *I* have them blocked, they’re a big-time nutcase

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 15h

I will say though, being an atheist is NOTHING like what Christians tell you being an atheist is like. Idk what you’ve heard in specific, but most atheists I know are very moral and the older ones are pretty fulfilled (younger ones not so much, but we’re all college students, so the idea is that we’ll be doing fulfilling stuff once we get out into the world)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

It’s not that you’re not wanted: We have a bot and troll problem because there’s no mods here. And no, it’s not okay. If you sent OP a mean dm, go fuck yourself.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

You can turn off DMs for a post. Use the three dots menu.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11h

And here you are oppressing a queer person and hoping that they off themselves. How the tables turn. You have become the enemy that you claim to condemn. You are being hateful and violent with your words. Disgusting.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4h

jesus hung out with sex workers, criminals, and outcasts. he considered them his people just as much as pious old ladies and priests. i do not consider myself a catholic anymore by any sense because i don't even believe in the concept of divinity much less a one god, but i urge you to think about whether or not jesus would describe love for another human being as a sin

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