
As a gay person, bi folk get to celebrate all of Pride Month. Bisexuals are queer. This is your month, too. (Also, being in a hetero relationship doesn’t make you less Queer. The idea of “love who you want” is like so central to being Queer. We should not judge a bi person for being in a hetero relationship.)
hey! so i understand your point of view but i also understand why bi people would be upset. personally, im pan and i always make the joke that im 2/3 gay but at the end of the day i am still gay/queer. i think if its a bi person making the joke about themselves or a close friend making it it’s different, but when other people make the joke it can be seen as harmful just to the biphobia people face about the whole “pick a side” thing. i dont face it as much being pan which is weird
I mean, the fact you’re on here claiming bisexual people are “privileged” probably contributes to that. Maybe if you did some introspection of your own, you’d realize a lot of bisexual folks face pressure to be in heteronormative relationships because of societal stigmas and people like you who try to other them from their own community 🤷 They also face higher rates of abuse, but you know. Whatever fits your narrative I guess.
“Proximity to heterosexuality” is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. Just because we date the opposite sex sometimes, does not mean we aren’t queer or that bigots don’t consider us just more of those “ filthy nasty fslurs.” Bigots don’t care about our “proximity to heterosexuality” as long as we also have “proximity to homosexuality” too. If we are shunned from the queer community too then we have no support anywhere. Happy fucking pride month to ALL.
Yeah bisexual people have privilege, and I say that as someone who is bi. As a bi guy I could very easily conform to compulsive heterosexuality and pass as straight. That’s a privilege that many of the people in our community do not have. Acknowledging it as a privilege alongside acknowledging homophobia is fine
Do you not see how it is different between gay and bi people? That’s the problem I have with yall. You struggle to understand the fact that gay people ACTUALLY don’t want to date the opposite sex. Like ever. There is no attraction or desire to be in a relationship with the opposite gender, and most gay people actually find the idea of that really repulsive.
You do realize that homophobic ppl do se a difference!! They would throw us all in the same camp. Stop dividing the community. And yes most of us know that. I am just so sick of not being welcome in straight places. And when I turn to the queer community I am meet with more vitriol.
And you’re struggling to understand that we’re still inherently queer/discriminated against because homophobes genuinely do not care. If you experience any sort of same-sex attraction and you’re open about it, you are typically othered from society whether you’re mono or bisexual
I can answer this! See, 16 doesn’t have an actual answer, because they’re either A) stirring up shit for its own sake, or B) being a bigot in a way that they can rationalize as “not homophobic.” See, some people just want to have a scapegoat, a group to be bigoted against, and if you’re gay, well, you don’t want to pick yourself. So you might pick women, black people, trans people, or in this case, bi people!
Let me be perfectly clear, my praxis is always “if someone is more left leaning then me I need to figure out what they know that I don’t” which has lead me to the conclusion to view bisexuality from an intersectional lens. I try to acknowledge homophobia as well as the privilege that bi people can have. Maybe I’ve done a poor job articulating it and maybe I’ve antagonized people too much. Still, I want to be willing to hear people out if they disagree with me
If you want to get technical and semantic about it (as if this conversation wasn’t too semantic already) what we are discussing is the “relevance” of what you said using the Gricean Maxims. TL;DR You would not have mentioned it had it not been relevant (even if that wasn’t your intention)
can you make up your mind on if you were talking to them or not? cause what i responded to originally you were questioning how your message was taken as being directed at #14… and as a bi person who grew up in a homophobic family i do also disagree on your last statement there as well, they certainly didn’t care about what sexuality i identified with specifically when they made homophobic comments
We could have some *proximity* to privilege for sure. But that doesn’t change the fact that I get discriminated for being bisexual by both the homophobic str8’s AND the non-accepting gays. Str8 ppl accuse me of pretending to be str8 thinking I’m gay. Gay ppl accuse me of pretending to be gay thinking I’m str8. I just want to be understood and respected. Sincerely, a bi dude.
I’m not the one playing the oppression Olympics over here that’s you. No where in my comments did I say that. But it’s still different. Different does not equal more or less extreme. Bi people have to deal with people like you that other queer people don’t have to experience. That’s the difference. And if they experience “the same homophobia” you do, then why are they any less queer or whatever else than you?
You said they don’t have a choice yet it happens all the time due to heteronormative pressure. Yet you refuse to believe that same societal pressure might apply to bisexual folks who “wind up marrying the opposite gender anyways” Plus you’ve been in this comment section all day attacking other members of your community, and for what exactly?
Im not part of the same community as bisexuals lmao. And yeah, a bi person may feel pressured to date the opposite gender, but with that person they can have a fulfilling relationship. Odds are, they would have ended up in a straight relationship anyway. Is it making sense to you?
Can y’all just stop fighting? We have bigger fish to fry than our bisexual considered queer. For example, the killing of trans people in this country. As well as the erosion of our rights of queer people. And I don’t want to hear the argument that bisexuals aren’t queer they are they always happen and stfu.
I’m probably not the person to be phrasing that statement/question like that to considering I’m a bisexual woman engaged to another bisexual woman, sorry. All I can say is maybe take a hard look at yourself and why you feel so strongly against the initial concept of bisexual folks asking for support from their own community 👍 take care and happy pride
Okay? Your anecdote proves nothing. Bisexuals just have a much larger dating pool when they go for the opposite gender and that’s the math of it. And i don’t really care about that. It’s just the fact of bi people throwing themselves a pity party when every other letter in the acronym has much bigger problems. It’s insensitive and most of yall will never acknowledge the privilege you have. Especially when a gay person calls it out.
What privilege I am a gender queer person they’re literally is no privilege I can have also most gay people don’t avoid us. It’s just you and a loud cohort of hateful people. I get being wary if you have bad experience, but you’re taking this to a whole other level of hatred most of us just want to find love Jesus fucking Christ. Also, the idea of cheating, bisexual especially bisexual men started in the AIDS crisis. Because he was thought they were the ones who were spreading AIDS to
Being gender queer is an entirely different situation that is not relevant. a black, trans, disabled, bisexual immigrant would be more oppressed than a gay white guy no shit. But that comparison isn’t on fair terms when we are only talking about bisexuality and I think you know that
…Setting aside how fucking ridiculous that statement is, I’ll explain. I’d say girlboss but I don’t know if you’re a girl. I’d say guyboss but I don’t know if you’re a guy. The only things I know about you are 1) you’re illiterate 2) you hate bi people for some reason 3) you’re gay So, gayboss it is.
I personally have never denied that we do most people in the LGBTQ community have some sort of internalized hatred. That being said bisexual people need to work on yes but it’s not just a bisexual issue. At least some of us go out, calling people sluts and cheaters, which enforces the patriarchy.