Anonymous #1 63w

People with no empathy

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Anonymous #2 63w

people have become more comfortable with their antisemitism because they think it’s acceptable now. it’s horribly frustrating and scary

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Anonymous #1 63w

It makes me anxious about wearing my Magen David in public. But I won’t let anyone make me feel afraid.

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Anonymous #2 63w

stand strong my friend, i stand with you and to others: you can be pro palestine without being antisemitic. the israeli government, no matter how much they claim to be, is not remotely representative of all jews

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Stfu. Waving a flag doesn’t mean they support the government

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And there’s also a Palestinian flag in the image

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Anonymous #2 63w

Yeah I still like the American flag for example even though I despise the current president

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Anonymous #3 63w

Same

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Anonymous #3 63w

People like you give me hope as a Jew. Thank you

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Anonymous #2 63w

Ofc 💙💙✡️✡️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸🇵🇸

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Anonymous #7 63w

Missing the entire point of the post

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that is still not all of them

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No. You brought up something that had nothing to do with the post

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Anonymous #2 63w

The comments are bringing up antisemitism.

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Anonymous #1 63w

more than half still are not representative of all and certainly are not representative of the world population of jews

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Anonymous #7 63w

what is antisemitic is attacking jews in general because of the actions of the idf, accusing them of supporting the genocide in palestine because they are jewish and israel is a primarily jewish country. which many people who claim to be “pro palestine” are doing. which only serves to brew more hate, violence, and persecution. which is the opposite of that the movement or literally any living person needs

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Anonymous #1 63w

this is what we are talking about

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this is true but people are also using this as an excuse to make sweeping accusations about all jews and to make blatantly antisemitic statements rather than focusing their criticism on the society and militarism

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Anonymous #1 63w

that’s all i’m saying. the issue isn’t the religion but the society. which acts in ways that the religion directly stipulates not to

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Anonymous #1 63w

Thank you for standing up for Jews

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Also the second source you sent is a headline of an opinion piece. I don’t know how reliable that is

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hey so that 65% statistic is false. it’s a mistranslation of the original language of the survey. literally a thirty second google search will tell you that.

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Anonymous #2 63w

of course! part of my family is jewish, and i’m a member of hillel at my school. good friends with many people there and the rabbi and his wife are like another pair of parents to me (and they and my parents adore each other). i’ve been considering converting to judaism for a couple years now actually i’ve just not had the time for the process

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Anonymous #1 63w

Hillel is awesome

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but even if this wasn’t the case it’s just the right thing to do to stand up for people. you can criticize and rally against something without bringing down an entire group, most of whom are innocent or even completely against it

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idk how you think people are gonna take you seriously if you can’t take 30 seconds to fact check your claims.

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Anonymous #1 63w

Hillel is a propaganda org used to get Jewish people to colonize Palestine, I know because my dad works for them

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Anonymous #6 63w

“i’m not antisemitic i’m just against every single jewish organization” that’s how you sound rn

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Anonymous #9 63w

Well there ya go, I’ve learned the hard way to never trust opinion pieces as they’re often inflammatory and aren’t bound to the same rules of fact reporting as some other kinds of articles are. Tucker Carlson got away with all the shit he did because his show was classified as an opinion piece

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it really is, it’s like a home on campus. i joined because i associated jewish gatherings with family already and then fell in love with it. they welcome non jews with open arms and are so lovely. the rabbi and his wife are some of the most kind hearted and supportive people i’ve ever met and they also give amazing hugs

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Anonymous #9 63w

i was quite skeptical of that statistic to be honest

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Anonymous #6 63w

it’s literally just a community bruh. hillel is a community. not a propaganda organization. they’ve been around for a long time and serve as a way to give jewish students a place to practice their religion and be with others like them. and to welcome in new friends. it’s a community, a home. have you ever once been to hillel also it can vary by school probably but in my experience and others as well it’s very positive and supportive

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also no matter your opinion on the country, calling it isntreal is ridiculous. like that is not the argument here

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Anonymous #7 63w

claiming that saying anything about this is inherently never antisemitic is just blatantly false

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Anonymous #1 63w

literally and this pisses me off so much as someone who is arguably an antizionist (depends how you qualify it). like it or not, israel does in fact exist and pretending it doesn’t helps no one.

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Anonymous #1 63w

“Not all men”🥀 missing the point final boss

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Nearly half is not all of them lmfaoo

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No, we do not welcome zionists at Pride when they are cheering on genocide.

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Anonymous #9 63w

I’m literally Jewish dumbass, if you’re illiterate that’s not my fault.

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Anonymous #1 63w

It’s not, their mission is to spread propaganda and get people to colonize Palestine. Idgaf if you believe me

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Anonymous #6 63w

Replying that to a post that was just proving information is crazy maybe don’t be so hostile towards facts

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Anonymous #10 63w

zionists hate facts and actively twist or ignore them 🤣

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Anonymous #12 63w

nowhere did i or the others say “i’m a zionist” i’m literally not. israel is corrupt and the genocide is unjustified no matter what. i’m saying that this does not represent jews as a whole. this isn’t jews in general doing it and it isn’t rhetorical fault of judaism. yes the people doing it are jews but that does not mean that they represent jews, nor does it mean that they should

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Anonymous #1 63w

The flag does not represent Jews, at all. It is a symbol of zionism, of the terrorist colony. It does not belong at Pride. It doesn’t belong anywhere.

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dude no one is disagreeing that the majority of israeli jews are zionists or support the idf. but you keep responding to comments about jews in general with (often misleading) statements about israeli jews…what is that if not generalizing? genuine question

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Anonymous #12 63w

most american jews feel that israel is integral to their jewish identity, ie most feel that flag DOES represent jews. you don’t have to think that’s a good thing, i certainly don’t, but it’s a fact.

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literally the first topic of this thread was antisemitism and how the israeli govt doesnt represent all jews. you’re the one who started talking about israeli jews when no one else was

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cool so that’s actually not what i’m saying. i’m not offended by you criticizing zionists. if anything i’m “offended” by you 1) responding to comments with something completely unrelated, 2) using false or misleading statistics, and 3) implying that i (and others) have said certain things when we haven’t.

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once again, no one said it was all the government’s fault. if you want to talk logical fallacies i recommend reading up on nonsequiter and the slippery slope, seeing as you have been using both

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buddy i’m talking about the earlier statistic that was literally false that you jjust deleted without saying anything

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Exactly.

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1. you posted an earlier statistic that was false and took it down without acknowledging 2. you posted a headline that ~58% of israelis say the idf is not doing enough. that poll was from october 2023. currently that number is much lower, about 35% (aka NOT a majority)

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Anonymous #9 63w

It’s baffling how you’re so hellbent on defending terrorism.

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I REPORTED IT. you know why? it wasn’t true. it was a mistranslation of the original language of the poll. the statement that most israeli jews are against criminal prosecution for idf soldiers raping palestinians is false. i dont support the idf, but misinformation helps no one.

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Anonymous #12 63w

not terrorism, just truth. i’m very pro palestine and antizionist, but i also know not to spread misinformation even if its in favor of causes i support.

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i still didn’t say anything about the genocide being solely the govt’s fault. i still didn’t defend anyone or anything, certainly not israel or israelis or their govt. the only thing i would say about hillel is that it is virtually impossible to find jewish community spaces without ties to israel and the idf.

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Anonymous #9 63w

There were massive fucking protests to PROTECT the rapists. Lawmakers ADVOCATE for rape. It is a systemic issue. Not a one-off.

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look at your search, man! you’re searching shit like “98% of israelis support destroying gaza” and posting ai generated summaries and outdated polls that don’t represent current beliefs. there are real, factual, verifiable sources on how israelis feel about the genocide. use those.

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Anonymous #9 63w

They don’t support your claims.

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Anonymous #9 63w

Sure thing, zio. We all know your bullshit tactics.

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cool neither do i thats why we have this great thing called google. if you search “65% of israelis oppose criminal prosecution” the first thing you’ll see is a fact check of the article you posted which shows it’s a mistranslation.

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Anonymous #12 63w

what claims have i made that aren’t supported by verifiable sources? seriously, bc i dont think i’ve made very many claims at all

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Anonymous #12 63w

of course it’s a systemic issue and i’m not denying that, nor am i denying that some israelis did support the rapists! but you shouldn’t need to inflate or misrepresent statistics to support your cause!

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Anonymous #9 63w

You keep bringing up the mistranslation as if it makes them any better. They all KNEW rape occurred, cheered and protested to protect the rapists, and only 21% of the settlers said they should have criminal trial. That is definitely a majority who really doesn’t give a shit or supports it.

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Anonymous #9 63w

It’s baffling how you’re trying to defend them.!

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the wording of the article you shared implied that 65% of israelis think idf soldiers who rape palestinians should have zero consequences. you don’t see the difference? still bad, but one is clearly worse, and also untrue.

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and again that poll is older and more recent polls show that 4% of israelis think the idf has gone to far. of COURSE 4% is still disgustingly low! but it’s also more than double, meaning opposition toward the idf has doubled. that matters, no?

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hillel is more than that. it is a home for many. and many among us are just as if not more against what’s going on in israel and palestine than you

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Anonymous #1 63w

many of my friends in hillel have gone to israel at least once and are against the genocide going on

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you’re hellbent on hating everything that has any connection to israel at all. that’s thinking is very black and white

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Anonymous #1 63w

*that thinking is

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i’ve said genocide more than once already tfym

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i even said “genocide” in the comment directly above yours💀

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what does this even mean

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that is not what i’m saying. i’m saying you’re attacking anything that has any connection at all to israel because of the genocide

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“genocide bad” is black and white as it gets and i agree with that. i was not saying that it wasn’t. that is not what i was saying isn’t black and white

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the founding of it is fucked up and the society is fucked up but no matter how much you hate it it is still a nation

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you tell me

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thanks i guess please chill on the way you’re lashing out, it’s counterproductive but yea you too

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i do have one question tho why are you saying iof? the genocidal military is the idf not the iof

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Anonymous #1 63w

No, it’s the IOF. “israeli” occupation forces.

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Anonymous #12 63w

that’s just. not what they’re called if you’re gonna hate on something do it by name

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Anonymous #1 63w

I am. Can’t “defend” when you’re the oppressor and instigator. It’s an occupational entity. That’s all it is.

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Anonymous #12 63w

i agree that it’s a bad name but that is what they’re called

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Anonymous #1 63w

And we’re not respecting terrorists, period.

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Anonymous #12 63w

if you’re gonna criticize someone or something do it by name

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Anonymous #1 63w

Not respecting those filthy fucking terrorists. You should either. But expecting a zionist to have that sense of morality is asking too much.

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Anonymous #1 63w

yeah! so that was unnecessary and shitty

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Anonymous #1 63w

also i think #12 called me a “fucking terrorist” and a string of some other bad things in a comment before presumably blocking me because i saw a notification for it before it disappeared along with all their comments

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no one is attacking you. you’re the one calling names (btw ‘zio’ is generally considered a slur due to its connection to the kkk), defending misinformation, and dismissing an entire society as being sick and depraved beyond repair. you’re the one constantly accusing me of saying things i don’t even believe and defending things i don’t support.

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if your response to finding out you spread misinformation is “whatever, its close enough”, you will quickly fall for actual propaganda. if your response to israel committing atrocities is to deny its existence, that delusion is going to prevent you from ever being part of meaningful progress.

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the only reason i’m engaging with you at all is because we clearly have similar beliefs and i genuinely want you to have a better understanding of your arguments. because if your goal is ending the genocide, your first step should be dismantling the pro-israel propaganda that surrounds it. and you can’t do that if you’re spreading statistics without fact-checking or proper context, calling names, and claiming any disagreement is an attack.

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