Anonymous #2 3w

what number 2 said. i think you’re right but holy fuck am i tired of pointless discourse (and its pointless bc nobody is convincing anyone of anything online)

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Anonymous #4 3w

bc lesbianism is about sapphic like feminine romance. is how i understand it??

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Anonymous #5 3w

Indeed… This topic always attracts the very people who know the least, while rarely having input from the small group it’s referring to

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Anonymous #5 3w

My opinion is that I’m so fucking tired

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Anonymous #9 3w

I would be worried why a man would be calling himself that. I feel like it starts to invalidate wlw. I know that nonbinary folks can be wlw, but most would agree that you can’t be a man that’s a lesbian.

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Anonymous #9 3w

im a lesbian and a trans man, and i was a woman and a lesbian for a large portion of my life. i cant let go of my identity and my community just bc i found out more abt myself. im a man, but living a majority of my life as a woman has shaped and changed me and it affects everything including this.

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Anonymous #10 3w

I can understand that, I was raised to be a woman, so some things still feel more fitting that could be labeled as feminine. I will always carry those things I experienced as a woman but that doesn’t affect you as a man, it actually makes you better because of those experiences so you should be proud of the past. I just don’t see how you could on to an identity that isn’t fitting to the one you feel you now. a heart changes its mind a lot, you don’t need to be scared invalidating who you usetobe

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Anonymous #10 3w

Just a question, how is it not invalidating? Why do you not want to identify as a straight trans man? You can still cherish and love your past identity as a lesbian but also welcome a new one and be comfortable in that too! I don’t want to be ignorant I would just love to know more about your perspective on it.

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Anonymous #4 3w

Also, do lesbian women date you? I’m sorry if this is intrusive lol u don’t have to answer

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Anonymous #8 3w

no one said they hate you for how you identify, you are labeling yourself as things that conflict, it would be weird if people weren’t a little confused.

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Anonymous #9 3w

Someone I know said he him lesbian (not even trans men. He him lesbian) make no sense and are just confused. And then blew up at someone and say they’re wrong for using those pronouns. So yeah. They hate me for who I am

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Anonymous #11 3w

it’s not cut and dry no matter how much you want it to be. people aren’t cut and dry. like if you talk to any trans man lesbian for 2 seconds you can tell they’re doing it for a reason.

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Anonymous #8 3w

if your friends hate you for your identity then they don’t sound like very good friends

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Anonymous #15 3w

wlw is woman loving women, that’s what it stands for

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Anonymous #15 3w

trans men are a type of transmasc identity

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Anonymous #12 3w

no but i can’t tell because it’s odd that people are using the identity that i use and i use it because lesbian is woman loving woman

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Anonymous #11 3w

most people define lesbian as woman/nb loving woman/nb, even when they don’t think trans men can be lesbians

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Anonymous #12 3w

well that is acceptable but if you’re a man i don’t get it

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Anonymous #11 3w

so? not everyone is gonna identify exactly the same as you with the same labels

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Anonymous #14 3w

obviously but like the literal definition of lesbian is; denoting or relating to women who are sexually or romantically attracted exclusively to other women, or to sexual attraction or activity between women.

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Anonymous #11 3w

then what about non-binary people

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Anonymous #11 3w

dude if you’re fine with non binary people being lesbians but not trans men who might still be connected to their lesbian identity then you don’t view non binary people as non binary. y’all seriously cannot just let trans people be who they say they are

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Anonymous #14 3w

bro what i literally thought i was trans and went by a whole different identity for 3 years

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Anonymous #11 3w

doesn’t mean you aren’t wrong. like there’s a whole community of trans people who hate other trans people, so you having thought you were trans doesn’t mean anything

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Anonymous #11 3w

ok and? yet another example that not everyone’s gender and sexuality experience are the same

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Anonymous #12 3w

def don’t hate trans people lol

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Anonymous #14 3w

no they aren’t but why are you identifying as a lesbian if you also identify as a man who loves women

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Anonymous #11 3w

but you think it’s fine to police other trans peoples’ identity just cos you don’t personally understand it?

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Anonymous #14 3w

nope i’m just talking about how being trans and lesbian is odd as a lesbian

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Anonymous #11 3w

girl you missed the point completely

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Anonymous #11 3w

because most trans men lesbians don’t identify as men the same way cis men do. if you as a lesbian aren’t interested in trans men that’s fine but you don’t get to go around telling trans people how to live their lives

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Anonymous #11 3w

maybe if you didn’t immediately make rude assumptions about them, maybe they’d tell you why they identify that way 👍

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Anonymous #11 3w

literally go to any lesbian spaces in real life and trans men and transmasculine people will be there. trans men have always and will always be a part of lesbian history and community

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