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Anonymous 1w

The leopards eating faces joke never gets old… sadly.

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Anonymous 1w

It’s pretty telling that a lot of cis people need to feel directly affected, themselves, to care about us

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Anonymous 1w

Ugh. I’m so tired of the “biological” bullshit, too. Trans women are biological women. We’re not made of fucking stone. 🙄

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Anonymous 1w

I mean, we kind of have to use this angle. The people we need to convince don’t care about us hurting. We tell them trans women were banned, they’ll say “good” We tell them a thousand cis women were banned just to ban one (1) trans woman, maybe they’ll realize their manipulators are using blind hatred, not fairness. And the sad fact is, we can’t win this on our own with the support we have now

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Anonymous 1w

Not 100% on topic but I hate the term “biological woman” it feels like someone referring to me as a womb.

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Anonymous 1w

It’s possible they’re pointing this out because “this will hurt trans women” is not a compelling argument to the people who introduced this legislation with the specific intent of hurting trans women

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Anonymous 1w

I mean I think it is important we recognize that a lot of the anti-trans legislature is not just coming from transphobia but also misogyny. Benevolent sexism, in particular, is exactly why they care a lot more about trans women in sports than they do about trans men in sports. It’s maybe even possible that cis women being caught in the crossfire is 100% intentional. Female athletes have been surpassing male athletes in recent years, whenever this happened in the past, a new hurdle appeared.

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Anonymous 1w

Almost like they hate all women if they’re trans or cis

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Anonymous 1w

Tbh I hope it catches more cis women than trans women

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

yeah, like unfortunately, i genuinely do think the only way for some people to come around is to explain how anti-trans legislature is bad for *everyone* to emphasize it doesn’t have any actual benefit to society and only after that realization can they understand there is no benefit to hurting trans people. i wish this wasn’t the way it was, but it’s where we are right now

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Anonymous 1w

yeah i didn’t really understand their comment either…

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Anonymous 1w

Sex is determined by more then chromosomes and most people don’t even know they’re chromosomes because they haven’t had a reason to be tested. And they’re are other combinations of sex chromosomes people can be born with such as xxy sex is bimodal with two ends of a spectrum rather than binary

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Anonymous 1w

There’s about as many redheads as their are intersex people

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

so not a lot of the population is what you’re saying. Less than 2% of the population is red headed and even using XXY it’s still just a man with deficiencies, they don’t have ovaries or eggs, just low testosterone.

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Anonymous 1w

We mostly are. 1. Even before medically transitioning, trans women’s brains align more with cis women than cis men. And the brain is by far the most important part of your body; it’s where our conciousness resides, where the actual sentient humans within us live. It’s the ONLY organ neccessary for life that can’t be replaced/transplanted. 2. After medically transitioning (HRT) the rest of your body becomes closer to your actual gender than your sex at birth. Body, metabolism, regulation, etc

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

They’re are some intersex women who have vaginas but descended testicles in their body biology is much more complex and intriguing theirs so much more to learn you should really read up on it super interesting stuff. And even some people born with both ovarian and testicular tissue

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Anonymous 1w

What does something being rare have to do with anything?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Sex gets even crazier when it comes to non mammals. They have some animals that can change sex in response to mating season

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

“Man with deficiencies” is crazy Ngl

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

Yeah like wtf

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Anonymous 1w

Just say you’re transphobic and ignorant, it’s much simpler than trying to jump through loops you don’t understand.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

More Intersex people than redheads! Many, MANY just have no idea they’re actually intersex. Because it’s not this huge rarity that transphobes like to pretend.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

Every time a doctor examines you, they think of you as a skin sack filled with organs and tubes. It’s not an attempt to dehumanize you, doctors actually try to do the opposite, but when your job is to help everyone, generalizations must be made. And when the job is diagnosing an issue, there has to be some “normal” operating conditions. Also, for doctors knowing the biological sex (in addition to any medication or hormones, like t) is crucial to figuring out what the “normal” conditions are for

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

Each person. Please know I’m not trying to invalidate how the term makes you feel, but there are reasons why it must stick around in some areas.

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Anonymous 1w

Also people on hormone replacement therapy their cells behave more like the sex they are transitioning too and trans people have a more similar brain to their gender then assigned sex at birth

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

it’s actually simpler understanding basic biology, and not trying to apply it to a wide array of people that don’t fit. First XXY is brought up which doesn’t work because that’s still male at birth, then they brought up intersex women which also doesn’t work because that’s not in their category, i’m trying to help here, you can’t you other categories in relation to yours because they are not the same, they may be similar but that’s all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

1 percent of the global population is roughly 800,000,000 (million) humans on this earth btw. 800. million. i dont think most of us realize how inconceivably huge that number is.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

I’m trying to show how complex it and that biological woman just doesn’t really make sense as a term

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Anonymous 1w

To show how it’s even possible to change sexual characteristics after birth

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

Yeah transphobia boils down to the patriarchal system trying its best to preserve itself and societal misogyny. If people realized that the lines between genders are much more arbitrary than we make them seem, it would be harder to control people. harder to oppress women.

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Anonymous 1w

I love how you’re talking about Klinefelter syndrome when you don’t know anything about those of us with it.

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Anonymous 1w

Ok, I see what you are saying, but please understand that is not how the post reads. The post made it sound like people with xxy chromosomes are just deficient men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

No, they don’t need to make generalisations. Quite the opposite, actually, because no individual is a monolith. SAB only goes so far as to label a paper. The organs someone has dictate better the needs they may have, and those can and do change over time, and even more with HRT or any relevant conditions compounded.

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Anonymous 1w

It’s still not rare.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

Fact check: 1% of 8 billion (a little higher than the reported global pop) is 80 million, not 800 million. Still a very large number of people, but that extra 0 Mae’s a huge difference

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

Makes*

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Anonymous 1w

Being struck by lightning is rare. Being conjoined is rare. The population of Germany or the UK is not rare.

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Anonymous 1w

Babe, the info posted on the internet has never been a reliable source, that’s why you have to comb through it to find the valuable stuff. Not saying you don’t, but the internet has always been a myth. It’s like yikyak, you can post whatever you want with basically no reprocussions

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Anonymous 1w

You’re just trying to push some bullshit.

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Anonymous 1w

As if you actually read any. But you’ll just have to take it up with science and get over your bigotry.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

Genuinely, you’re stupid and need to take a genetics course (I have)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Intersex doesn’t equal trans tho 🫩

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Correct! But the existence of us Intersex/Trans folks immediately disproves their make-believe little binary boxes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

That number is wrong, you accidentally calculated as if it’s 10%. There’s only ~8billion people. It’s actually about 80,000,000 (aka 1%)

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

I don’t mind “female” or “assigned female at birth” but luckily I’ve never had a doctor call me a biological woman.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

This is 100% true. That’s why TERFs are so weird. “If your feminism isn’t intersectional your feminism ain’t shit.”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

To be fair sex In mammals is y=male No y = female

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 1w

Except that it’s not that simple.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

How so

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 1w

Because there are XY females, XX males. That’s not including trans people. There are also various other combinations of chromosomes, the SRY gene, hormone fluctuations in utero that impact development, mosaicism, the list goes on. Sex is a bimodal spectrum but is not binary.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Really because that’s not what I learned in my bio class and I would want some kind of source for this

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 1w

I learned this in my university biology classes

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 1w

https://youtu.be/nVQplt7Chos

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

He’s a phenomenal scholar and explains things so well here.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Look I’m not saying your wrong but I also learned this at university

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Ok thanks

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 1w

Like I hope it catches no one, but if it has to then let it be a cis person

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 1w

Thing is, it’s mostly going to be used to target BIPOC women like it always has. 😔

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

This!!!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 1w

And also because this was pushed as a way to “protect (read: cis) women”/“protect (cis) women’s sports” so they’re pointing out (tho their wording isn’t great) that this rule obviously only does harm here, not only does it exclude trans women from participating in the olympics but it forces everyone to undergo sex testing (based on SRY screening, which btw the original creator of has disavowed as a way to test for sex, due to its inaccuracy). Intersex women and cis women with atypical hormone…

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 1w

…levels will also be barred, and as always WOC will be the most subject to scrutiny for existing outside of eurocentric beauty standards. This person’s argument against mandatory sex testing shouldn’t be “hey this is bad because it also hurts cis women” it should be “this is anti-scientific, queerphobic, and mysogynistic full stop, and hurts all women, cis, trans, and intersex.” Anti-trans rules and laws are about enforcing gender binaries and gender bio essentialism at the end of the day

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 1w

Yeah precisely

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Right. Yeah. I don’t think these policies will stop being tried unless they directly hurt cishet white women. Anyone else is either the target of the legislation or a happy consequence

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 1w

This is only for women’s sports too, right?

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

Men wouldn’t have to go through any of this? Cis or trans?

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 1w

Bio classes always simplify things

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

What….

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

You might wanna delete your comic before they start calling you, transphobic..

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 1w

I honestly think that the “benevolent” (however oxymoronic) in “benevolent sexism” is a significant factor in it not being at least *intentionally* hostile to women

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 1w

Sorry, *cis* women

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 1w

I don’t think the average person who supports taking trans women out of sports is intentionally doing so while knowing cis women are being affected, bc of benevolent sexism, but I think that some people behind the scenes may be doing it intentionally. Like I said, this wouldn’t be the first time some rules have changed after female athletes got too good. But I could be wrong, it’s all just speculation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 1w

regardless, sexism comes into play in other ways as well. Such as women being ‘accused’ of being trans solely because they are ‘too good at their sport to be a cis woman’

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 1w

Totally agree I just also think we can only act (at least, decisively and staking significant strategy) on the information we declaratively have

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 1w

People for sure do just also hate all women tho. That Myron fuckface was on my campus last week and drew a not-insignificant crowd

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