Anonymous #2 9w

Fr. It always weirds me out when anyone fixates on what’s in stranger’s pants. Like are you trying to fuck them? If not it doesn’t matter what parts they might have. If someone can’t have a conversation without knowing what’s in the other person’s pants they’re the problem

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Anonymous #3 9w

so fucking tired of people “woke-ifying” their language without actually wokeifying their beliefs by deconstructing transphobia and cissexism

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Anonymous #3 9w

like, a large part of the issue comes from the fact that people treat it as a noun instead of a past-tense verb. ASAB refers to ASSIGNED sex at birth. the emphasis should be on the /assignment/ part of the phrase, not the male/female part. it is describing an event that may or may not affect people who experienced that event in the same or different ways, it is not and was never meant to describe a uniform category of person.

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Anonymous #3 9w

yeah, it icks me out when people assume that because i’m [AGAB] that people assume i have certain experiences in common with other people who share my AGAB and/or that i feel some closeness with other people who have the same AGAB as me instead of like… people who the same gender as me. like as a trans person, i identify with people share my gender, not my AGAB. that should be obvious…

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Anonymous #7 9w

also i feel like the differences between trans people’s experiences of being assigned an gender at birth are not the same as a cis person’s and that gets lost in a lot of these conversations.

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Anonymous #3 9w

i think its useful terminology, although i agree more specific terms should become popular. but its relevant in the doctors office, just like any gender affirming procedure you had is relevant. i also see it commonly use in nonbinary spaces and while sometimes it can be useful to speak to nonbinary people who you can assume have similar/relatable child hood experiences. for instance, if i'm dealing with an issue when i'm binding, i might want to talk to other nonbinary people who know what thats

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Anonymous #8 9w

like, and the same if i wanted to talk to nonbinary people about tucking. would it be more specific in those instances to say "people who have breasts" and "people who have penises"? yes of course. but thats clunky and feels unnatural to say. and in those two sentences, the vast majority of the time that means afab ppl, same with amab. so it's easier and quicker to use those terms. i think itll stick around.

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Anonymous #8 9w

what’s relevant in a doctor’s office is medical history, not social assignment. it’s possible to describe one’s endocrine system, organs, medications, and surgical history without relying on ASAB. also asserting binding only applies to AFAB nonbinary people shows that you’re still making cissexist assumptions about trans people based on their ASAB. it’s honestly pretty ignorant, and it crosses over to transphobic when you acknowledge alternatives exist and refuse to use them.

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Anonymous sheepie 9w

Assigned gender at birth Such as afab and amab Originally used to talk about intersex people now used for trans people in general

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Anonymous #12 9w

Big agree. Not everyone is socially affected by their agab but pretty much everyone is medically affected by it in one way or another.

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Anonymous #8 9w

Just get used to the clunk. Would you rather spend 1 more second on a word or engage with problematic stereotypes and associations that lead into bigotry against your own community. Your choice

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