Anonymous #1 20h

THISSS

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Anonymous #1 20h

Im a lesbian who expresses my individual problems with bisexual women quite frequently. The problem is when it becomes biphobic. Which is not acceptable.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Obviously! Although i think many bisexual women have to address their male centeredness and you have to agree that a lot of discourse on queer women, especially lesbians, is damaging to us. Not to mention our history.

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Anonymous #2 20h

yea no

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Anonymous #2 20h

The issue is everyone is male centered. Its not exclusive to bisexual women. Lesbians can be male centered. MEN are male centered! Its how patriarchy works. Assuming bisexual women are specifically and uniquely male centered from everyone else just isnt accurate. Its a different intersection of male centeredness with queerness but its not a bi specific problem.

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Anonymous #4 20h

here’s your reminder that hating men is not decentering them! just because you hate men doesn’t mean you need to treat the women attracted to them like shit because that doesn’t make you any more feminist, it makes you just act misogynistic just like the men you supposedly hate!

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i don’t know you, it was a reminder for anyone who needs it. if the shoe fits girl

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if you say so? you seem to be awfully upset about a general statement about how lesbians perpetuate misogyny

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Anonymous #4 20h

and you seem to have a weird beef with lesbians & how they live life and speak with their own community and people 🤣

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wtf do you mean “still attracted to men” how tf do you stop being attracted to men when it’s a sexuality you can’t control. that’s the exact some logic homophobes use. listen to yourself!!

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Anonymous #1 20h

when did i say anything about how you live your life!! i said stop acting like bisexuals are tarnished due to their sexual activity with both genders!! you’re weird!!

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Why are you getting belligerent with me? It is academically accepted that male centeredness exists in basically everyone unless they deconstruct that. Cis straight men are male centered and they aren’t attracted to men.

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Anonymous OP 20h

thank you we live under the patriarchy. like everyone is male centered and i can tell #1 has some issues

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Stop pretending like you aren’t born male centered. Lesbians are born male centered because we have been TAUGHT to be that way!! Its easier for us to deconstruct that because we arent attracted to men but dont you dare act like lesbians are the perfect group who exist outside of patriarchy’s influences and bi women are the big bad guys in the queer community

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Anonymous #4 19h

Yes !! Like yeah bisexual women can often be male centered but not any more than straight women and to act like bi women are uniquely male centered due to attraction to men doesn’t fundamentally understand what patriarchy does

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Anonymous #3 19h

Yeah hehe

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it’s hard for anyone to decenter men. we live in a male-centered society. from a lesbian: we aren’t exempt. attraction to men has little do with centering men in comparison to the lifetime we’ve all spent in a male-centered society. thinking we’re exempt or less affected is how we stop addressing our own biases.

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Anonymous #7 19h

i agree that everyone should speak on the things they’ve gone through. it just sucks how othered we can make our own feel…

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Anonymous #7 19h

what’s specifically crazy about the bi hate is bisexuals are the majority of the community. not to be that guy but does everyone realize the community would be lowkey fucked without over 50% of their numbers

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Anonymous #4 19h

never did, projecting

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Anonymous #4 19h

entitlement as f

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Anonymous #1 18h

can you please tell me what bisexuals do that piss you off so bad in a direct example instead of just yapping about whose more oppressed

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Anonymous #4 18h

the topic of this post is the increasing discourse between bisexuals and lesbians……. and discouraging that discourse that often has very valid points in the name of “biphobia” — and everyone started talking about hating men & gold star lesbians (lingo in the LES community)……… like weird as all hell

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Anonymous #1 18h

what is a gold star lesbian and why is it important in the lesbian community? because it means you’ve never had sex with a man. you’ve never been made dirty by a man. and now we’re talking about why you don’t like bisexuals, could it be because they’ve been touched by men?

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Anonymous #4 18h

no, because i want to date a lesbian. i want someone who only wants women. like??? and as a gold star lesbian myself, i’ve dated women who weren’t. it doesn’t matter. i just knew who i was from a youn age. it’s lingo similar to pillow princess, stone top, etc. describing words. i’m allowed to not want to date someone if i don’t want to—especially based on not having a shared experience in the world. you’re not entitled to lesbians, dude! that’s weird

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Anonymous #1 18h

We don’t want to date yall anyways lmfao

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Anonymous #1 18h

i don’t care who you sleep with that’s my whole point 😭😭😭😭😭 but ignoring the fact that that specific term is problematic not only to bisexuals, but to other lesbians… is just a weird ass thing to admit. i see know why you’re so pressed.

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Anonymous #1 18h

Im literally les4les dumbass, you can’t make les4les a restriction and expect people to not feel like youre completely excluding them from your dating pool. Im les4les because i PREFER to date other lesbians but it seems like you’re just a biphobe. Stop making actual les4les people look bad.

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Anonymous #1 18h

it’s biphobic if the specific reason is because they’re also attracted to men. do what you want, but it’s weird as fuck to judge someone based on their sexuality.

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Anonymous #1 18h

tribalism and oppression Olympics isnt cute btw

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Anonymous #1 18h

no one gaf

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Anonymous #1 18h

oh ew you’re a gold star 💀 yeah any lesbian with a brain won’t want you, either… “gold star” is a purist term and not a valid identity lmao

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Anonymous #6 18h

THANK YOOUUUUUU i thought i was going crazy like that’s not just biphobic it’s also weird as fuck for other lesbians too, god forbid we live in the patriarchy and a grossly heteronormative culture 🤯🤯

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Anonymous #4 18h

yall are ridiculous and rude as all hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous #8 18h

right — & that’s not homophobia? see? weird as hell

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Anonymous OP 18h

nope, i’m just les4les. i don’t date bisexual women because that’s not my preference—the same way i wouldn’t date a white person

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Anonymous #4 18h

never said that. this whole thread is yall jumping to conclusions and shit LMFAOOOOOO

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Anonymous #1 18h

we’re telling you that your “identity”is incredibly male-centered and generally scorned within the lesbian community and you have nothing to say other than calling it “ridiculous” 💀 maybe we’ll stop being “rude” once you have anything to say lmao

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Anonymous #1 18h

if you don’t want to address your internal biases, then whatever, girl. but maybe stop bragging about them if you don’t want to get called out lmao

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Anonymous #6 18h

i’m a lesbian who is les4les…. i’ve also just never slept with a man…… that’s literally it??? like…. are u okay???

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Anonymous #6 18h

my internal bias being dating someone i’m interested in? like

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Anonymous #8 18h

not biphobic, & yall just can’t take constructive criticism or handle discourse with nuance like 🤣 jus a bunch of white bisexuals tryna be oppressed

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Anonymous #1 18h

if you wanna ignore both the history of the term & how much you’re centering men by making them a part of your identity, go ahead. take a hint since no one else here is agreeing with you.

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Anonymous #6 18h

“A "gold star lesbian" is LGBTQ+ slang for a woman who has only had romantic or sexual relationships with other women and has never had sex with a cisgender man. The term originated in the 1990s as a lighthearted way for some women to describe their exclusive history.” - wikipedia LMFAO

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Anonymous #1 18h

you might actually be slow and that’s okay… but if that’s the case maybe we stay out of discourse?

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Anonymous #1 18h

are you incapable of reading more than one sentence of your own source, or are you being purposefully dense?

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Anonymous #4 18h

see how yall have made weird assumptions, been aggressively rude, name called, and now you’re saying some ableist shit? who is really incapable of discourse 🤷🏻‍♀️ talk to real people get off the internet

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Anonymous #1 18h

so far every assumption has been true, by your own admissions. so maybe i’m right about this one too.

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Anonymous #6 18h

“used sincerely”… have i said that you’re not a real lesbian if you’re not a “gold star”? or did i just describe my experience as someone who has never slept with men? lmfao dense

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Anonymous #4 18h

i’m biphobic—why? i’m slow—why? i hate men—why? keyboard warrior headasses i swear 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous #1 18h

girl i’m actually in many in person groups and organizations where we discuss issues. and you’re the kind of conversationalist that is avoided like the plague because you have no real point besides othering, being the victim, and not being open to other ideas. stuck in 1990 with the other homophobes

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Anonymous #1 18h

the term is INHERENTLY exclusionary & male-centered when used sincerely. I’m not going to walk you through every goddamn sentence about your OWN “identity” 💀 remember this post when you wonder why other lesbians think you’re weird asf

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Anonymous #1 18h

We just exist and people like you get offended and freak out. We are not trying to act oppressed. Obsessed much?

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Anonymous #4 18h

so true, thank you for teaching me about my own experience, random white bisexual who has a chip on her shoulder! teach me about racism next please!

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Anonymous #1 18h

i am not white, i’m middle eastern. and that chip seems imbedded in yours. ms. gold star 🌟

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Anonymous #4 18h

you’re right, i’ve never been with a man, and because i have a dating preference, im slow and uneducated — please see my masters in wgss. LMFAO please touch grass and read some bell hooks

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Anonymous #1 18h

buulllllshiiiitttt, you have a masters in wes’s and you don’t see any issue with the term gold star lesbian? lies. i have a philosophy degree and i can see many. oh please

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Anonymous #4 18h

gold star, as in, i’ve never been with a man. should i have said “as a lesbian who has never slept with a man” for you to feel better? it is about context. is there really something wrong with someone knowing who they were from a young age? the mlm community uses gold star gay… the same concept. if i said “only gold star lesbians are valid”, that would be a whole other discussion. is nuance no longer a thing? if i said “i don’t date pillow princesses”, would that be a bad thing? no. but if +

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Anonymous #1 18h

+ i said “pillow princesses aren’t gay forreal”, that’s another discussion.

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Anonymous #1 17h

genuinely do you go outside? normal people : “hi how are you?” let’s all be the gay police rq

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Anonymous #4 17h

as if you’re… not the gay police rn….. yeah yall can have whatever W you think this is for you—just know that there is so much nuance to discussions surrounding the lesbian community that you cannot even conceptualize because you’re so stuck on something so trivial as a preferences/labels. not everything or every space or every person is for you. that’s fine. i’m allowed to not date someone because of the way they chew, dress, or laugh. i don’t have to do anything. if you not being someone’s +

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Anonymous #1 17h

+ type or preference hurts you that bad to where you feel like it’s against you to speak up, then idk what to tell you girl

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Anonymous #1 17h

i’m not telling u to date anyone bro i have issues with the specific term you use. you’re allowed to fuck anyone you seem fit, we’re so far from the issue we started at. then u throw some shit in abt pillow princesses not being gay, im genuinely starting to think you just truly don’t go outside

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Anonymous #4 17h

DID YOU NOT READ THAT? LMFAOOO IM A PILLOW PRINCESS MYSELF GIRL BYE

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Anonymous #1 17h

Shut the hell up #1 im blocking u

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Anonymous #1 17h

way to prove the point blockhead 😭😭😭 lesbians are more obsessed with imaginary dick taken by bisexual women as opposed to the bisexual women themselves

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Anonymous OP 17h

Born male centered? I know what u are…

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Anonymous #1 16h

bro you are in everyones replies, get a job bozo

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Anonymous #1 14h

dude are you every lesbian ever? do you speak for every lesbian ever? no. they’re talking about the lesbians that act in that way. amazing and great for you that YOU in particular don’t so don’t act like they’re calling you out???

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Anonymous #1 14h

They didn’t even bring you up why are we acting like you’re the only lesbian to exist rn?!

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Anonymous #4 14h

Gold Star lesbian is an outdated term and you can tell by who’s using it rn the kind of people who still say it if ya know what I mean- from a lesbian

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Anonymous OP 14h

ironic that someone eager to discourse abt lesbians & bisexuals was the first to comment on your post about how annoyed you are by discourse abt lesbians & bisexuals 😭

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Anonymous #6 13h

It really is isnt it? Like the discoursers literally cannot help themselves

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Anonymous #14 13h

AThe thing is i can see why some lesbians would be happy about not having had sex with men because it genuinely is a traumatic event for lesbians, but the people who are usually loud gold stars are usually the ones making it weird 😭

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Anonymous OP 13h

Oh yeah. The weird ones always have to ruin it for everyone. Like I’ve even seen people use it against SA victims. But since it’s used in such a negative way a lot of the time most people don’t say it anymore. But I think from #1 other replies we can infer where they stand

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Anonymous #1 13h

OP: Stop making sweeping statements 1: Makes a sweeping statement about “female bisexuals” as a whole

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Anonymous #8 11h

the causal misogyny of calling women you don’t like ugly 🫩

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Anonymous #16 11h

I’m just assuming they are chopped bc why else would they be so insecure and hateful

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Anonymous #1 7h

they're booing but you're lowkey right tbh it's just a neutral term yk?

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Anonymous #1 7h

girl you're literally right im sorry this is crazy

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Anonymous #16 2h

you can say all evil people are ugly but at the end of the day i think it comes down to the same issue as when a bigot or rapist or whoever makes a good piece of art/media. it falsely implies that bigotry is easy to spot because bigoted people are all ugly or the art they make is bad and makes it easier to defend bad people who Arent

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