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This does not automatically mean we shut down any convo abt ‘male socialization’ it just means to keep ur eyes out bc the discussion can quickly get muddled with TERFS! The topic is still important we trans men and women!
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Anonymous 4d

thank youu :( it’s important in recognizing the effects of the patriarchy and to examine the psychology of queerness. I swear I’m not being discriminatory (I am trans) but we can’t just claim to have experienced life the same as cis people

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Anonymous 4d

*to we 🥹

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Anonymous 4d

Trans men talking about male socialization is still terf shit too btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

Depends on the context because male vs female socialization is definitely real

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

no it’s not im tired of this bullshit. as a TRANS WOMAN, sometimes in certain conversations it’s important to note the difference in female/male childhood development!!! It’s important to recognize ! It has helped me become closer to women in my life. And on the other hand, it allows us to not ignore the misogyny and oppression young trans men went through.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4d

it’s just a factor of growing up in our society😭 i hate that other ppl get so iffy with it like it has to be a taboo topic

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4d

I’m a trans woman and anyone even implying male socialization after what I went through growing up is insulting

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

Ok? Well I can happily admit I knew almost nothing about periods, bleeding, or vaginas in general growing up bc the world viewed me as male. That is male socialization. No one wanted to tell me bc my parts didn’t match up. I have since learned ofc, but I now carry tampons or pads with me ( if i remember ) bc im a woman and even without a uterus, I think more women should carry products in case someone asks! Not everything is doom and gloom and bioessentialist!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

Male socialization describes a trend, it does not imply that everyone received the same inputs and outcomes during childhood development

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

So I’d APPRECIATE it if you all would stop shutting this conversation up bc of your bad experiences! If YOU don’t want to talk about it, fine! IDC. You aren’t going to stop me from doing it by calling it TERFy. This is just a way to shut trans women up bc the conversation makes some of us uncomfortable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

So you dont think that,,, the patriarchal society raises male and female bodies differently? That different expectationss are placed on to that person based on their assigned sex? Thats just a bunch of nonsense. If that were the case and neither the binary man and woman were raised exactly the same way sexism wouldn’t be a thing and neither would the patriarchy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4d

I think there are levels to it. Many trans women didn’t have 100% male socialization due to people around them picking up on their femininity and and bullying them for it. But in other ways the world still perceives untransitioned amab people as male and treats them as such

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