Anonymous #2 16h

Again, not *necessarily* criticizing you here. Just broader trends I see among people who “hate the porn industry”

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Anonymous #3 13h

And if I say I agree? 👀

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Anonymous #3 13h

I would say that you copied #1’s comment, almost word for word…

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Anonymous #2 13h

“Puritanical beliefs” is a phrase I’ve genuinely only seen used by porn addicts LOL. Not a diss it’s just funny. We can respect sex workers and not the work they do. And sex work isn’t necessarily synonymous with porn/porn industry, yes. Those can be two different conversations. I was referring specifically to mainstream porn content, OnlyFans and such. Someone who supports in terms of donating, subscribing, retweeting and sharing porn content, specifically regularly, can not be a feminist.

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Anonymous #2 13h

oop ur right

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Anonymous OP 12h

Yeah so… noooo. First, “puritanical beliefs” is a specific phrasing, yes. But it’s not exclusive to discussions of porn. The more broadly applicable, cultural term would be “purity culture” which you’ve definitely heard (if not experienced) before.

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Anonymous #2 12h

No, from experience It’s also unfortunately a phrase adopted by gooners if you dare say anything against porn. ( Twitter specifically ) Being against porn doesn’t have to be inherently puritanical or..”purity culture” esp when it comes to discussions of feminism.

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Anonymous #2 12h

Second, onlyfans is entirely different from the traditional porn industry, and generally speaking, creators own their work on that kind of website. I think fansly is similar? I’m not super sure: I’m more of a smut reader. Third, no, consuming and sharing porn content doesn’t make one *not* a feminist. Why would consuming sexually stimulating content featuring actors make you antifeminist? (Again, assuming that the porn isn’t the product of an antifeminist environment)

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Anonymous OP 12h

…a phrase can used by gooners on twitter, as well as by other people. It’s not exclusive to one or the other. And I didn’t say that it’s inherently puritanical to dislike and object to porn. I specifically said it wasn’t.

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Anonymous #2 12h

OnlyFans and Fansly CAN be independent. But all the most popular creators across those platforms are just reskinned pornstars from the old mainstream content sites. It’s the same process. They are scouted and hired and have directors and profits they have to split. You’ve only been made to believe it’s more morally correct to be a pornstar on OnlyFans lol. And because it’s incredibly hard to remove the porn you are watching and sharing to a “ethic source.” i.e. independent creators.

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Anonymous #2 12h

There is certainly a thing as ethic porn consumption. 90% of people don’t practice that, or don’t commit fully. So I’m speaking in a more general sense.

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Anonymous OP 12h

bro *ETHICAL

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Anonymous #2 12h

And I didn’t say.. u said that.,, I was just adding on

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Anonymous OP 12h

A quick google search of (top-earning onlyfans creator name) + independent reveals that a lot of them are independent. Not disagreeing that there’s industrialization happening, but still, it’s better than it used to be (at a glance, anyway)

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Anonymous #2 12h

And a lot of them are also in “content houses” creating grooming content for 17 year old girls, while also including 17 year old girls in their promotional material on TikTok. And they also create content that is supposed to catch the eyes of teen boys. So even when they are independent, they are horrible people and it exposes what exactly helps the porn industry run. 🤷 but I’ll end it with this to help. If you consume content of this nature regularly, you cannot be a feminist.

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Anonymous #2 26m

yes and the post bc it's so close to being about the main topic we should oppose

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