Anonymous #1 2w

i love you too random citizen!!!!

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Anonymous #4 2w

Lesbians don’t have to be women tho, lesbian is non man x non man…

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Anonymous #2 2w

ok and trans men be claiming to be lesbians while at the same time identifying as a man…. just give me a break bro like

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Anonymous #4 2w

dude we still exist. i’ve only met one other trans guy who identifies as a lesbian apart from my girlfriend. it literally has impacted no one :p

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Anonymous #4 2w

Why are you being so weird about what other people believe? Grow up

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Anonymous #4 2w

Just say you still got some shit to work on at this point

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Anonymous #2 2w

lesbians who also identify as boys, to put it as simply as possible

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Anonymous #4 2w

please go look at things from lesbians describing their identities in the 80s and 90s

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Anonymous OP 2w

bro, it has to be rage bait you have to be rage baiting because what you just fucking typed literally makes no sense

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Anonymous #4 2w

Dude have you not looked at any sort of queer history?

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Anonymous OP 2w

y’all are fucking exhausting like is it so inconvenient to you to just identify as queer or like the fucking gender that you feel you are it makes no fucking sense what you’re saying

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Anonymous #2 2w

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️y’all the reason the right side invalidates all queer people lmao

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Anonymous #4 2w

Clearly it’s you who allows us to be invalidated so much

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Anonymous #4 2w

it is inconvenient because those labels aren’t me! the right hates us because we’re queer. no one on the right who has been queerphobic towards me has known anything about my contradicting labels. i have only receiving harassment from other queer people

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Anonymous #4 2w

No??? People can identify however tf they wsnt

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Anonymous #4 2w

it does make sense because that’s how we identify. if you took the time to understand instead of raging, you’d maybe start to get it

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Anonymous #4 2w

The right literally thinks trans women are pedo men who groom and r*p3 kids they don’t even know he him or transmasc lesbians exist. Stupid ass argument

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Anonymous OP 2w

probably because they identify as what you’re trying to claim🤦‍♀️ like a literal sexuality specifically and only for women cannot just be for women. We have to include men too yup we have to.

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Anonymous #1 2w

THANK YOU!!! the right just hates us generally! they don’t care about all this bullshit infighting!!

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Anonymous #4 2w

LMFAO WHAT?,? Lesbian isn’t just for women tho

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Anonymous #2 2w

That’s why sapphic is a thing

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Anonymous #2 2w

i’ll agree that it’s for gender queer people too, but for men for people who identify as a man??? ur insane

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Anonymous #4 2w

dude. just ask me why i identify this way! just have a conversation! you don’t have to be angry and hateful!

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Anonymous OP 2w

Literally even if all trans people were straight they’d hate us for being trans.

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Anonymous #4 2w

why are they *choosing* to identify that way then?? dude think!

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Anonymous OP 2w

ok explain then with actual logic not how you feel

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Anonymous OP 2w

I don’t know that’s why it’s so frustrating 😭😭 I cannot understand why someone would want to be considered/called a man, but then completely invalidate the fact that they are a man by saying “i’m a lesbian”. this is the legit definition “denoting or relating to women who are sexually or romantically attracted to other women, or to sexual attraction or activity between women.”

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Anonymous #4 2w

Why are you using a dictionary to try and encapsulate the entire scope of queerness

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Anonymous #1 2w

Dictionary used to say transgenderism is a mental disorder, but we know that’s wrong, so why do you think what it says now must be right?

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Anonymous #4 2w

gender is factually a social construct. how people feel is literally part of the definition of gender. how i *feel* is that i am a weird gender amalgamation, who’s both a man (because of how i feel internally) and a woman (because of how i am perceived and treated by society, along with my life experience). i like men in a gay way and women in a lesbian way, so: genderqueer gaylesbian. this is the simple way of describing my experience

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Anonymous #1 2w

PLEASE PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME, if not lesbian what is a sexuality SPECIFICALLY for women who are attracted to women. like does one not exist? like it's insane to not jus make your own instead of claiming and changing the definition or

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Anonymous #4 2w

you don’t need to understand it. this is the same argument homophobes use, do you realize that? you don’t need to completely get it! just be respectful!

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Anonymous #4 2w

Why would one have to be?? Gay isn’t exclusively for men liking men? Lesbian actually didn’t mean that till the 80’s. It used to just mean “woman in relationship with, or seeking relations with other women.” So bi lesbians existed. We now know there’s other genders beyond the binary so the definition of lesbian has shifted as our understanding of queerness and gender has expanded

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Anonymous #4 2w

it is lesbian!! because the lesbian experience is a spectrum!! dude!! you aren’t even a lesbian why do you care? are you including trans women/fems in your definition? are you including nonbinary people? trans men/mascs, women/fems, and nonbinary people have ALWAYS been a part of lesbianism!! read old lesbian work please!!!

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Anonymous OP 2w

trust me I am😭 I keep it to myself, im just frustrated

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Anonymous #4 2w

you are what?

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Anonymous OP 2w

yes literally everything except MEN, people who use he/him pronouns.

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Anonymous #4 2w

SAPPHIC IDIOT

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Anonymous OP 2w

you said “you don’t have to understand just be respectful” and while this isn’t a good example bc i’m arguing, but I do not go around to random queer or trans people and tell them what they can and cannot be. this is simply bc this post prompted it

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Anonymous #4 2w

Sure you don’t, you’re doing it rn…

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Anonymous #2 2w

bro is it like smooth brain in there or something bc I literally said I know i’m contradicting myself lmaoo

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Anonymous #4 2w

Then why do you continuw? Contradicting yourself is making you look stupid

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Anonymous #2 2w

bc I genuinely want to understand but I don’t think I ever will

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Anonymous #4 2w

why are you okay with doing that to me then?? what?? 😭😭

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Anonymous #4 2w

you clearly don’t tho otherwise you’d ask questions instead of being disrespectful??

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Anonymous #4 2w

he/him doesn’t automatically equal man. this is a fundamental thing in trans spaces

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Anonymous OP 2w

Literally 😭

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Anonymous #4 2w

you also haven’t even replied to my explanation? there isn’t any “logic” in gender, it just feels how it feels and that’s what it is at the end of the day. the queer community used to be a lot more of a community than dividied niches like it is today

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Anonymous OP 2w

I mean fuck I KNOW you are right. like who am I to deny that im not even trans, ive retyped what im trying to get across so many times and I just sound stupid no matter what. I guess it just bothers me that there’s labels and boxes but that they dont actually mean what they say they mean. like you just told me he/him ≠ man. so then what does?? bc being biologically male doesnt = man and pronouns don’t so WHAT DOES

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Anonymous #4 2w

LITERALLY SO STOO ARGUING

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Anonymous #2 2w

ur annoying bro im not even talking to you😭

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Anonymous #4 2w

a person’s own experience. these labels aren’t constricting. they’re supposed to be self-identified. they don’t have to be these black-and-white things. i get your frustration, but why does it *have* to be that way to you?

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Anonymous OP 2w

I think it’s like autism or something idfk it just like irks me really bad when things don’t have clean cut lines/definitions idk. but ur right I guess if there’s one thing we know is that gender and sexuality is a spectrum and you can’t really make much sense of it bc like you said it’s a personal experience.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I know I sound dumb asf I just really want to understand but I think bc i’m cis gender I just can’t, I can only try to empathize

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Anonymous #4 2w

i get you! i’m also autistic and i was really rigid about this stuff for a long time. it took me a while to get where i am now, and so seriously it’s been so freeing. i’m not mad about how other people identify anymore, and i’m more accepting of my own personal experience and identity because of the growth i’ve made regarding this issue. it can absolutely be confusing, and that’s why you ask people their experience. having conversations really opens you up to those differences

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Anonymous OP 2w

okay yeah you are right. I will definitely approach a conversation about this differently if I have it again. Did not mean to come off so hateful idk it just bothered me but i’m tryna not be bothered by others life choices bc that’s exhausting lmao

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Anonymous #4 2w

you don’t sound dumb. you sound frustrated and conflicted. i get you want to understand, i just need you to know that the way you initially approached it was so rude. attacking people for their identity doesn’t make them want to talk to you. i love having these conversations, but not everyone does, and they don’t have to, especially when they’re not being treated with respect

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Anonymous #4 2w

i appreciate that, thank you! i don’t think you’re a bad person btw. it’s a learning curve!! it’s better to acknowledge it and grow yknow?

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Anonymous OP 2w

yeah 100% I was just typing out my apology lmao but seems a little empty considering I was so pressed a minute ago

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Anonymous #4 2w

it’s alright. i appreciate you coming around to the concepts

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Anonymous OP 2w

definitely. I might mess up but i’m one to own up to my shit lol, you made me think a differently and also the way you responded made me able to comprehend what ur saying lol so ty for not being combative back with me😭😭

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Anonymous OP 2w

i’m trying to. that’s honestly all I want is to just understand and be educated but I was being an asshole. i’m sorry

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Anonymous #4 2w

of course! thank you! i’m glad it was helpful!

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