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As a trans man, this whole “trans men can be lesbians” discourse has been nothing short of exhausting 😭😭
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Anonymous 12w

genuinely confused as to why that’s not transphobic

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

How is it transphobic to say that we should listen to people when they tell us the labels that they use and to not tell them they’re wrong about their personal identity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

would it not be transphobic to call a straight trans man a lesbian? would you not be calling him a woman?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

It’s not like people go around calling every trans man a lesbian. It’s only if that trans man identifies as a lesbian himself

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

Like fr the only argument you’ve been posting is “Thats so invalidating to the trans man” mfer that’s what HE WANTS to been seen as

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

Why the fuck would I call a straight trans man a lesbian 😭 I’m saying it’s okay for lesbian trans men to call themselves that. Straight trans men are a whole other thing

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

people are downvoting me but like i am genuinely confused and trying to figure this out. does lesbian not mean “women who are into other women”. if you are a trans man you are not a woman… but

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

ignore the “but” there’s no thought to continue

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

Lesbian to me and many other trans affirming open minded lesbians means “queer attraction to women, and not cis men.” Some trans men who’ve been in lesbian communities before transitioning, or non binary trans men, may feel that their attraction to women is queer in a lesbian way, and feel a connection to lesbian community and fellow lesbians. So my take is that I’m not going to force those people to call themselves something else, because they won’t. Trans men lesbians will keep existing,

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

And I think people making hundreds of TikTok’s about how much they hate trans men lesbians is at this point just targeted harassment campaigns fuelled by transphobia

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

i guess i still don’t fully understand it but i don’t care what people label themselves at all and wont deny their existence

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

And genuinely that’s all I care about. You don’t have to understand to let them be and to not deny people their existence and who they are

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