LGBTQIA+ on Yik Yak | Misandry does not exist but at the same time some lesbians seem to have a hatred of masculinity in a way that they’ll say horrific shit to and about butches and butch femme relationships and I think we DO need to talk about that

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LGBTQIA+ 11w

Misandry does not exist but at the same time some lesbians seem to have a hatred of masculinity in a way that they’ll say horrific shit to and about butches and butch femme relationships and I think we DO need to talk about that

Anonymous 11w

it’s homophobia and transphobia because they’re gender non conforming. the same way the gay male community has a tendency to shame more feminine presenting men. it is not a misandry thing, it’s just enforcing gender conformity

Anonymous 11w

Misandry exists

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Anonymous 11w

*systemic misandry does not exist. at the interpersonal level you can be racist to white people, sexist to men, and hateful to straight people.

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Anonymous

#1 11w

Do you have anything to add to my post about how people hate butch masculinity or are you going to not contribute at all and take issue with my wording when we have a word limit and I already shortened my post to fit all the words in

Anonymous

#2 11w

I never said it was misandry I said many femmes seem to hate butch masculinity

Anonymous

OP 11w

I also didn’t say where that hatred comes from because I do not know. I just know I see people try and say butches are like men for being masculine and seem afraid of any traits they perceive as male that butches have

Anonymous

OP 11w

you suggested some tie to misandry with how you started this post. i wanted to make it clear the problem is real that is not even close to the reason. its closer to misogyny than misandry because it stems from thinking women should look/dress/act a certain way

Anonymous

#2 11w

I said that misandry does not exist but people seem to hate butch masculinity in some ways. I said it DOES NOT exist. And then brought up a topic close to me that includes hating masculinity, not systematic hatred of men

Anonymous

OP 11w

yeah, i’m with you. i just want to name it correctly - it’s not about hating masculinity as a concept, it’s about punishing gender nonconformity even within the queer community. like i said, gay men do it with more feminine men too

Anonymous

#2 11w

Yeah, I hadn’t connected those dots

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Anonymous

#1 11w

Hate and prejudice are not the same as the ism’s. Misandrism does not exist *because* it is not systemic (a “chai tea” situation)

Anonymous

sapphoherself 11w

I agree it isn't systemic. And, other -isms are discussed as interpersonal and systemic interchangeably. That's why we call individual ppl misogynists - they suck on an interpersonal level. Of course that's facilitated by systemic misogyny & the patriarchy, but I think a lot of people don't necessarily make that connection & will explicitly focus on interpersonal behavior. Which can lead ppl to think "misandry" only references interpersonal issues. (They shld be looking for "patriarchy" imo)