Anonymous #3 1d

Okay, but like, you did still experience dysphoria. That’s my point. Dysphoria is a spectrum and it’s different for everyone. We shouldn’t be expecting people to transition before we call them trans.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m not going to say you shouldn’t be allowed to life your life the way you want. If you genuinely feel better for having medically transitioned, that’s great. I also think that’s evidence of dysphoria. I’m saying that trans people experience some level of dysphoria, whether it’s small (but present) or unbearable. You don’t have to “hate yourself” to experience dysphoria.

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Anonymous #1 1d

lmao being trans is a scientifically backed thing. if you have no dysphoria, you’d have no issue being called or identified as your AGAB, right?

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Anonymous #4 1d

Dysphoria IS that feeling of alienation from your body. Having a nuanced view of how people deal with that dysphoria is not diluting the trans experience.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Can you read 😭 that’s what I said

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Anonymous #1 1d

honestly theres certain people that’ll hate on this so much more than needed, like its literally someone else’s life and they’re doing something that makes them feel better relaxxx. just because you disagree doesn’t mean you need to disrespect

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Anonymous #4 1d

Girl you’re the one who said I’m diluting the trans experience 😂

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Anonymous OP 1d

Yeah people that claim they have dysphoria are😂 everyone thinks it’s a new trend to hop on, shit happens all the time in online spaces and it’s weird asf.

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Anonymous #1 1d

i am NO transmed but this has got to be a ragebait comment lol dysphoria is not equivalent to hating yourself? how insanely disrespectful to people who do experience gender dysphoria

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Anonymous #1 1d

As long as you acknowledge that that is very different from medically necessary transition and aren’t trying to group body modification in with life changing medical care or the experience/needs of people with dysphoria.

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Anonymous #4 1d

everyone transitions for a reason, and it doesn’t have to be dysphoria. sometimes it’s the joy of euphoria that leads to transition. in any case, “trend hoppers” are propaganda lmao. if they did exist, they’d detransition in months at most because of the discomfort of going away from their gender.

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Anonymous #8 1d

I’m not a transmed either but that IS/WAS a big talking point during the whole transmed/tocute debate , was that “oh I don’t hate myself or my body therefore I don’t have dysphoria .” Sometimes having euphoria instead is a better fit for the feeling!

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Anonymous #8 1d

it’s not a ragebait comment, they’re simply speaking within the context of transmedicalist talking points :) theyve no doubt been attacked by truscums for their (medical) transition, so they’re responding directly to them and their shitty perspective. #1 doesn’t hold that perspective :p

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Anonymous OP 1d

you don’t need dysphoria to be trans :) euphoria on its own is a perfectly valid reason to transition

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Anonymous #12 1d

😂

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Anonymous OP 1d

I agree that the part equating dysphoria with “hating yourself” was sloppily worded. nonetheless, it’s weird to claim that any choice made by #1 was “evidence of dysphoria” when they just stated very explicitly that they Don’t experience dysphoria?

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Anonymous OP 1d

I mean, if you share [what you think of as] a universal definition of what constitutes transness and another trans person says “this excludes me”, why talk over them about their own individual experience rather than simply acknowledging that maybe your definition isn’t perfectly comprehensive?

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Anonymous #13 1d

I personally know multiple trans people who consider gender euphoria just relief from dysphoria, which is entirely frustrating since I have both and can say with certainty that relief from gender dysphoria is a completely separate emotion from gender euphoria

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Anonymous #10 1d

yeah, I experience both too and I definitely get gender euphoria over certain HRT-influenced traits that I wasn’t ever dysphoric about

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Anonymous #1 1d

“for the fun of it”? ummmm…we are an oppressed class. how is that fun? for many of us coming out means negative consequences like losing family. like, you just decided to be a different gender?

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Anonymous #14 1d

whatever their reason, it was significant enough to make them want to shoulder all the shit we face. it’s not sunshine and rainbows, which is how you know they have a damn good reason for transitioning.

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Anonymous #12 1d

are you transitioning?

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Anonymous #15 1d

…Sounds like you’re not trans then

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Anonymous #9 1d

nope! they are :)

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Anonymous #1 1d

in what world is transitioning fun? I’m in danger every day what privileged world do you come from that it’s just fun

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Anonymous #19 1d

they didn’t say it was just fun. I’m sorry for your pain, but not everyone has the same transition experience that you do.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I don’t think a person who experiences no dysphoria whatsoever would ever transition. Whatever in yourself told you that you would like to transition, whether it was more of want than a need, is still dysphoria. Hating yourself is NOT a requirement of dysphoria.

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Anonymous #22 1d

Just because you think something doesn’t make it fact. There are in fact people without dysphoria who transition because of euphoria

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Anonymous #12 1d

i'm a trans person who experiences both dys- and euphoria, but i'm wondering what it's like to be trans without dysphoria? i've always wondered but all my trans friends seem to experience dysphoria so its hard to find anyone who can tell me about the experience

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Anonymous #21 1d

I feel that we are just assigning new names to things that are just people’s different experiences with dysphoria. I don’t doubt that people are telling the truth about how they feel, I just think the labeling is off. Then again, who am I to tell someone else what terms to use 🤷‍♀️ IMO it’s all just dysphoria, but define things how you like

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Anonymous #22 1d

nope! dysphoria and euphoria are two distinct feelings. euphoria is more than enough of a reason to transition. thinking that trans people must have dysphoria is a misconception :)

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Anonymous OP 1d

Well, I don’t even know if it was dysphoria. I’m just confused. I agree with your point though.

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Anonymous #10 1d

again people can use whatever terms they want but would you mind explaining why you think they are completely separate things and why euphoria can’t be considered as being apart of dysphoria? No hate, genuinely want to understand the thought process

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Anonymous #22 1d

thank you for being respectful :) I don’t think they’re separate feelings: they just are (at least for me & others I’ve talked with). it’s my lived experience: I’ve felt both relief from dysphoria & gender dysphoria, and can say with certainty that they are distinct feelings. relief from dysphoria can be euphoric, but that’s not gender euphoria

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Anonymous #17 1d

hella vagueposting but agreed

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Anonymous #10 1d

They said it themself … “I feel like I’m not trans”

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Anonymous #9 23h

questioning your identity doesn’t mean you’re not that identity… it just means you’re not sure lol. dismissing the possibility that they’re trans because you think you know better shows you care more about being right (when you’re not) than if that person is comfortable in their own skin.

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Anonymous #9 23h

“I feel like I’m not even trans” is linguistically not the same as “I am not trans”, and you do comprehend this at some level, even if just intuitively / subconsciously if they meant “I’m not trans” then they would have said that… or realistically they likely wouldn’t have replied to this thread in the first place

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Anonymous #7 22h

I swear I only ever see “TME” used as a plural noun when someone wants to dunk on transmascs. which is odd to me bc cis men & women are also TME

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Anonymous #13 22h

because when cis men and women are transmisogynistic at least it is loud and not shrouded in being just simply “more woke” or whatever stupid bullshit is the most popular reason to spout thinly veiled terf rhetoric

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Anonymous #11 14h

oh trust me i know. i was there between 2016-2018 when transmedicalism was really blowing up. i had/have tumblr. i was in the trenches. i know. however another thing that was popular back then WAS transmedicalists and truscum purposely posing as people who do not experience dysphoria and trying to make a bad name for them. i personally do not understand what it is like to not have dysphoria, but frankly i just don’t need to understand or care.

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Anonymous #10 14h

it could be. i wish i would copy and paste my reply to #11 but you can go read it yourself. the jist is that ive been around this conflict for a long time. it was popular back then to purposely pose a “tucute”. in fact that word comes from a transmedicalist who posed as someone without dysphoria. i cant prove this but that comment just reminds me of when people used to purposely pose as non dysphoric trans people. also regardless its still disrespectful to saying dysphoria=hating yourself.

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Anonymous #10 6h

It also doesn’t mean that they ARE that identity, so was your comment stating that they are trans not doing that exact thing? If someone doesn’t feel like they’re trans, then it’s likely that they’re not. Maybe they are, but there’s also a significant chance that they’re not. Either way is okay, but on the topic of dismissing a possibility, stating definitively that they are trans dismisses that they may be questioning. It’s okay to come to the conclusion that you’re not trans.

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Anonymous #12 4h

Ok so here is context that might change opinions (original commenter here). Been stuck dealing with gender thoughts for 6 or so years. Started when I met another trans person and I related to their experiences, but am unsure if that's cause I was lonely at time. I have felt gender euphoria. I experience little to no dysphoria. For example, I have a beard growing rn and even though I hate it, I feel like I shouldn't shave it.

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