Anonymous #3 7w

Wdym value… that’s a weird way to view sexuality

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Anonymous #3 7w

Tell me you don’t respect your subs without telling me you don’t respect your subs

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Anonymous OP 7w

You shrink yourself with men and then see women differently…. That’s not cool and would make me super uncomfortable.

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Anonymous #1 7w

I am a sub..

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Anonymous #3 7w

Just because I prefer different relationship dynamics with different genders as someone with a weird relationship to my gender doesn’t mean I think all men and all women need to act a certain way tf..? Just what I’m personally into

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Anonymous #3 7w

If you’re a sub, then do you see being a sub as shrinking yourself? If you had a switch partner acting as the dom would you believe they see you differently as a person than one of their dom partners? Is this genuinely how you view yourself during sex and kink scenes? If so seek therapy expeditiously, instead of projecting your lack of self worth onto others

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Anonymous OP 7w

Okay but it obviously has a lot to do with conditioning in a patriarchal society…. I’m allowed to be uncomfortable with that

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Anonymous #1 7w

What’s your problem?! You have a sexist view of gender and relationships and you want to act like I’m the one who needs therapy to stop projecting toxic ideals onto others?! Wow

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Anonymous #3 7w

Please explain to me how I’m sexist when you view being a sub as shrinking down for a man

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Anonymous #3 7w

So block me

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Anonymous #1 7w

Why don’t you want to be a sub for women but you do for men?

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Anonymous OP 7w

I’m just addressing something that you asked for input on. It is sexist and you see men as inherently more dominant and powerful than women and you treat them differently with power dynamics. It’s problematic. Stop acting like I’m the one in the wrong. It’s sickening.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Well thank you for your input

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Anonymous #3 7w

It's not a want thing. If it were that simple I'd be fine switching. But I'm strictly a stone top, and dom in that position. I don't really like oral from anyone, regardless of gender, and I just get a majority if not all of my sexual satisfaction when having sex with women from giving pleasure. I just genuinely can't get horny from subbing or bottoming with women. Removes me from the scene immediately

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Anonymous #3 7w

Preferring subbing or domming with specific partners does not mean you see men inherently as dominate. I have a strong feeling you are completely uneducated on the bdsm or wider kink community and just spewing nonsense trying to speak on it to people who do

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Anonymous OP 7w

You’re disgusting…

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Anonymous #1 7w

Only being dominant with women and only being submissive with men is clearly conditioning from sexist society/patriarchy…. How do you not see that? It makes me really uncomfortable and if I knew my partner treated me differently bc of my sex I would feel disrespected and upset… I’m not uneducated on bdsm…

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Anonymous #1 7w

But you like being submissive? You just can’t see a woman as dominant enough to make you turned on enough to wanna be a sub for her?.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Even if those preferences are influenced by the patriarchy (which let’s be real, in America literally everything is influenced by the patriarchy) what good does it do to shame people for their own sexual preferences? Nobody’s making you have sex with anyone here. Also you’re just making up assumptions about people you know nothing about other than them preferring different relationships with different genders

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Anonymous #3 7w

I literally said I was a switch/bratty sub with men (which some people consider a dominate position but I won’t get into that debate here). Let me guess, you also think age play is pedophilia and puppy play is Zoophilia

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don’t want someone to see me as less than bc they internalize actual sexism. If it’s subconsciously ingrained in them, then that’s how they really feel and they will never respect me as a partner. Idk why you think it’s so okay.

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Anonymous #3 7w

See, you view subs as less than. That’s your own disrespect issues. I adore and hold any subs to a very high regard. Sub≠lesser than. Don’t read what I didn’t say

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Anonymous #3 7w

The fact that you think being a sub makes you “less than” is just sad. I’m done talking to you, you’re welcome to block me if I make you so uncomfortable.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I never said being a sub is less than! I said ppl who internalize patriarchy into their sexual life also believe that deep inside and they think women are less than…. That’s why they can’t see them as dominant.. like you

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Anonymous #1 7w

That’s not what I said at all oh my god…… That’s nice you respect subs

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Anonymous #1 7w

A brat is a sub definitely and I don’t think those things wtf. I’m allowed to be turned off and offended by sexism

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Anonymous #3 7w

How on god’s green fucking earth would you assume we see subs as less than if you didn’t view them that way yourself????? You know what they say about assumptions. Makes an ass out of u and me. But in this case just you

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Anonymous #1 7w

Bc of everything I JUST said but you both wanna act like everything I just explained didn’t happen and now you wanna flip it on me and make me look bad?! I can’t stand ppl like you who internalize patriarchal ideals and then don’t take any accountability for the way it projects out from your sexuality. You expect everyone to accept the sexism you bring into the world but then you claim I’m the one with issues judging ppl bc you refuse to comprehend what I’m saying?! This is so frustrating

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Anonymous #3 7w

You are the one internalizing it by assuming people who are subs with men automatically center them or believe them better or stronger. Nobody, not a single one of us here, ever said that. Those are YOUR words. YOUR assumptions. YOUR world views. Like I said, don’t read what I didn’t say. That’s all you’ve done. Grass is cool, go touch it

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Anonymous #1 7w

Because you want a man to dominate you but don’t want a woman to. It’s obviously the sex that is the dependent variable….. meaning, you don’t see women as dominant and you see men as dominant. Which means that you are sexist and you see partners and their power dynamics differently based on their sex. That is sexist.

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Anonymous #3 7w

No no; I’m sexually attracted to kink scenes where I am a sub to my partner when they’re men (though again I am a switch, I can and do dom men on occasion), and sexually attracted to kink scenes where I am dominating women. I’m not aroused by being dommed by women. It’s sexual preferences that I can’t really control or choose

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yeah. I know.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Following this logic people into puppy play view the puppy as a real dog and are thus zoophiles. Do you also believe this?

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Anonymous #1 7w

No and stop. That’s not the same logic. Can you just accept you’re sexist and problematic and move on and do better?! Tf is wrong with you

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Anonymous #3 7w

Yeah it is. You believe how we view a kink scene partner MUST be how we also view them as people in the world. If I view a man partner as my dom then I must view all men as strong and dominate. If I view a woman partner as a sub then I must see all women as less than. The only person who views sub/dom dynamics as gendered attributes is you. You are the only sexist here.

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