Anonymous #1 12h

And like, not to leave it unsaid, these are two non-white women. You could have chosen to post about the “rumored” Newsom run, which has more evidence to back up its existence, but you chose to post about this one.

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Anonymous #3 12h

and im saying this as someone on the left

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Anonymous #3 11h

Explain why me not liking people who financed genocides is wrong

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Anonymous OP 11h

it’s not wrong. but guess who’s president right now? someone who’s besties with netanyahu who literally got us into a war because he’s his little doggy. the democratic party, kamala, the establishment are all flawed. but caving to someone who’s objectively 10x worse has killed so many more Palestinians and Lebanese.

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Anonymous #3 11h

I refuse to support that helped carry out the genocide. Point blank period.

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Anonymous #3 11h

and also, the system can’t change on a term by term basis. you can’t just expect people to suddenly vote for leftist candidates and pray they’ll win like that. the country reforms slowly. if you protest by not voting you are literally letting the party thats so much worse win and that’s unforgivable in my opinion. keeping the right in control strays you further from ending genocide and actually makes it worse

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Anonymous OP 11h

I really wish we were in a position to be picky like this and that is how it should be but unfortunately the left is the only party that’s gonna think like this so it’s just gonna cause us to lose and be in an even worse position

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Anonymous OP 11h

You say that as if Harris had any say whatsoever in that decision. She didn’t. We don’t know a hypothetical President Harris’s foreign policy, because it didn’t happen, and we have no reason to assume that that will change.

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Anonymous #1 11h

She did have a choice. Keep supporting a genocide or resign. She made her choice, as did I when it came to viewing her in any positive light. When she was running for president she could’ve said she would end aide to Israel, she could’ve at the very least called it a genocide. She refused.

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Anonymous #2 11h

Have you considered that if we keep voting for them out of fear of the other party, then they have no reason to improve? If they can always say, “well it’s us or Trump/Vance/whatever” and we vote, there’s no incentive for them to appeal to the public?

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Anonymous OP 11h

Have you considered that IF WE DONT VOTE FOR THEM WE GET FUCKING ICE KIDNAPPING PEOPLE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT TO SEND THEM TO DEATH CAMPS.

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Anonymous OP 11h

That’s not a choice. Those are not choices. I’m sorry that you’re too privileged to realize that the lesser of two evils is better than the worse. Or you’re just a sockpuppet trying to sow division, who knows.

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Anonymous OP 11h

No, not point blank period. This attitude is what got us Trump AGAIN. Please, stop with the purity tests. Is what you said bad? Yes, HOWEVER what republicans are doing is much worse. They’re committing genocide among other atrocities.

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Anonymous OP 11h

Single issue voting will be the downfall of liberty. You can’t get EVERYTHING you want from a candidate. The world doesn’t work like that. What you can do is vote for the person who will fill a MAJORITY if nobody fills all.

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Anonymous #4 11h

Purity test? I’m not talking about her misgendering a non-binary person. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GENOCIDE THATS KILLED 73k PEOPLE AND COUNTING

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Anonymous #1 10h

So let me ask you, how does this end, you keep voting for the lesser of two evils forever? No meaningful change for the rest of our lives? Kamala literally said that the reason she lost was the left was too liberal when it came to trans people.

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Anonymous #5 10h

“Guys yes I know Pol Pot is bad, but Hitler is worse, we gotta vote for Pol Pot cause he’s the lesser of two evils!” Do you even hear yourself.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Well if it’s the only two options then yes, vote for the person who will do the least amount of damage. We’ve got a mf who is hellbent on killing anyone who isn’t rich, you can handle a Kamala presidency. You have enough privilege to be a single issue voter. The majority of us do not.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Do you hear yourself… our options aren’t Pol Pot vs German Dictator, it’s Chamberlain vs German Dictator. You’re on team German Dictator.

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Anonymous #1 10h

I’m on team genocide is bad. Kamala is on team “Israel has a right to defend itself”. Supporting her is aligning yourself with that and Trump.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Where the fuck did Kamala say that. Cite your sources. And no. You’re conflating so many things. You can in fact fight for change without supporting American nazis

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Anonymous OP 10h

No you arent: and no it isn’t. You’re an idiot or a fascist in disguise.

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Anonymous #6 10h

I voted for Harris in 2024. Her loss and the reaction to the defeat of the Dems in 2024 by many fellow Dems has me thinking I won’t vote for her again. And that’s not even taking into account the war crimes and human rights abuses that continue regardless of admin (when it doesn’t happen on our soil, it doesn’t matter is much apparently)

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Anonymous #6 10h

*as

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Anonymous #1 10h

i don’t agree w what OP is saying but kamala has received millions from israel and you can literally look up her history with them and the support she has shown for their government

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Anonymous #1 10h

Let me be clear, I will always stand up for Israel's right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself," she said tonight. She said that Israelis should "never again" go through the horror and "unspeakable" attacks of Oct. 7.

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Anonymous #6 10h

I’d be much more likely to vote for AOC but that doesn’t erase any guilt I’d feel over what’s not discussed. Mamdani would be even better, probably the best in the country, but he can’t run

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Anonymous #7 10h

quote from a speech she gave at the dnc a couple years ago

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Anonymous #7 10h

From August 2024 almost a year into the genocide with 40k dead Palestinians

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Anonymous OP 10h

yeah like idk i’ll vote for her if it’s her vs trump but i will in no means act as though she is a good candidate. she’s less vocal about her support of israel now(probably to win the court of public opinion) but she still hasn’t called it a genocide and keeps dancing around it

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Anonymous #2 10h

It kind of would because it’s just Biden 2.0 which means dems will do absolutely nothing while the right steamrolls over everyone’s human rights

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Anonymous #8 10h

I agree they wouldn’t be the best option but I think Biden 2.0 just isn’t true. AOC at least cares a lot about the American people and while she backs ppl I definitely wouldn’t right now I just want someone who isn’t gonna run for a third term and doesn’t eat babies. It’s unfortunate that the bar is in literal hell but

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Hey, not okay. Genuinely fuck you. Not an acceptable topic of comedy on a forum for queer people.

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Anonymous #3 10h

I’m confused… the post didn’t indicate that OP refused to vote for Harris in the past or that they’d refuse to in the future. obviously it turns out you were right to presume that about OP, but all the post itself had expressed was disappointment with this candidacy announcement that being the case, why did you jump to such a hostile reply right out the gate? wouldn’t you prefer to see a better presidential candidate running on the dem side too?

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Anonymous #3 9h

vote for them if you feel it's best but don't go pledging your support without pushing for them to earn it

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Anonymous #1 9h

“You must love holocaust harris because shes a woman of color” Do you imperialists practice being insufferable or does it come naturally?

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Anonymous #2 9h

#2 is a genocide supporter

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Anonymous #1 9h

the ICE camps happened under Biden and Harris!! You demokkkrats just didnt care because it was your team! You guys are genocidal fascists too, but with rainbow flags

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Anonymous #1 9h

Cmon now. We all know of the newsom rumor. Harris has been the question mark that we all don’t want to see. We’re tired of her milquetoast neolib bs and it’s disappointing to see her billed to us as “progress” when in reality she is still an agent of the very establishment that is hurting us

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Anonymous #1 9h

#1 you are the fascist. To paraphrase Aime Césaire, everything the nazis did, western liberals like you do to the Global South. And you voted to do to Palestine

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Anonymous #12 9h

You idiots are gonna be the reason we fucking lose again and everyone loses their rights. WE CANT HELP OTHERS IF WE ARE DYING

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Anonymous #2 9h

she’s not even a candidate yet. just advocate for someone who doesn’t love israel

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Anonymous #2 9h

Either we win with a real candidate, or we revolt. Prepare and train

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Anonymous #7 9h

I have been but if it’s between a third Trump term and then I’m voting them bc we can’t let that shit happen

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Anonymous #2 9h

okay that doesnt mean shes a good option. why are you defending her when it doesnt even matter yet

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Anonymous #2 9h

There’s no “we”. I voted 3rd party in 2024 and will vote third party in 2028. I’m a communist. The people of the Global South are my brothers and sisters. Its that simple.

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Anonymous #2 9h

People have been dying. Now it’s just televised and politically salient and useful. I don’t expect them to fix this shit. Hell when Trump was caging kids and separating families, Biden didn’t exactly end that. And Roe v. Wade ended under that admin, bc the Supreme Court is rigged and has been. They won’t fix things. “less bad and less obvious” doesn’t really work esp when the bar continually falls lower

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Anonymous #3 8h

what you’re describing here is incrementalism, a theory that’s fundamentally incompatible with political ideologies any further-left than milquetoast liberalism look at how much backtracking has occurred in terms of political progress even just from the end of the Obama era until now. that’s roughly a decade. how many decades are you content to spend chanting “the country reforms slowly” while things keep getting worse? climate change says the clock is ticking

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Anonymous #3 8h

I’m not against incrementally better reforms, I dont vote for Demokkkrats because they make things incrementally WORSE and commit genocide. Its like, if progress is a train, democrats are taking the train in the wrong direction. I’d rather stand at the station.

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Anonymous #5 8h

“single issue voting”, and that “single issue” is genocide and the military budget and immigration and healthcare and trans rights and sex trafficking and privacy laws and-

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Anonymous #10 8h

And climate! Biden Harris approved more fossil fuel infrastructure than the Trump first term

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Anonymous #12 42m

What. No, what? Can you read? You can dislike Harris, whatever, that’s your opinion. I take issue with this bait-ass ticket being two women of color, because Newsome is right fucking there.

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Anonymous #1 40m

*Newsom, sorry. Also, he’s pulled a Bill Clinton and it’s coming to light. So that might be worth talking about.

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Anonymous #12 34m

How privileged do you have to be to think like this? Like, seriously, do you live in a bunker or something where ICE (which Trump has made into a private army, unprecedented in the US but precedented in Germany) can’t get to you? Where the uptick in anti-trans violence doesn’t affect you? “Both parties are the same” shut up. You do not live in reality if you think like that.

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Anonymous #12 32m

Does no one remember Harris’s 2020 stuff? Like, she ran on a Green New Deal platform for fucks same. The Biden Administration wasn’t interested in doing that, and Harris couldn’t do anything about that because the Vice President has basically no power.

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Anonymous #1 1m

Mmmm thats false

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