Anonymous #1 16w

Literally, especially black women they get copied all the time and I’m sick of it

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Anonymous #2 16w

I won’t put specific trans people on blast but I WILL share what culture I’m talking about: ebonics/AAVE, nails, grillz, chains, and hiphop fashion (rebranded as “streetwear”)

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Anonymous OP 16w

OH YEAH DEFINITELY! It’s also wild because people will see things like some aave as “gen z/queer” language and discredit the fact that it’s just.. not??

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Anonymous #2 16w

LIKE FREE MY PEOPLE 🙍🏾‍♀️😭😭 I think ebonics/aave is the worse offense honestly

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Anonymous OP 16w

you do not need to tell me by all means. feel free to just tell me to google it. but can you tell me what you mean with the nails?

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Anonymous #5 16w

Do studs who act like dykes scare you too?

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where did that “all” come from babes? they didn’t say that at all

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Anonymous #6 16w

This is what I mean, this kind of nail art is very deeply rooted in Black, Asian, and Hispanic culture and was one way black women (and other woc) expressed their femininity in a society that denied them womanhood

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way to misread a post

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Anonymous OP 16w

alright! thank you for telling me :)

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Anonymous #10 16w

If you can read the thread with #6 I gave more specific examples! But specifically I’m talking about ebonics/aave, nails, chains, and hiphop fashion (which was appropriated into streetwear)

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Anonymous OP 16w

Thanks for the reply, when I asked you had just responded the once, I get what you mean now

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Anonymous OP 16w

And for clarification, when you say chains, do you mean the kind worn as necklaces and bracelets, or all kinds including the stuff worn in a lot of alt fashion on jeans and such?

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Anonymous #10 16w

i assume they mean big gold chains or “bling”

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Hiphop is a black genre of music stemming from our culture, but we were seen as thugs or rachet or ghetto when we wore it. Suddenly white people start to dress like us and call it “streetwear” thus appropriating a culture they demonized black people for that’s why I don’t like when white people dress in that style

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Anonymous #7 16w

What do you mean by that…

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Anonymous #7 16w

Think critically again bestie. If im saying that white lesbian are acting like studs under a post about white queers copping black culture, then what do you think im saying

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Anonymous #9 16w

When does the buck stop though? Because that nail style is specifically Vietnamese but the difference is that they don’t try to gatekeep basic stuff. There are obviously clear examples of black culture. Nails are not that. Not uniquely.

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Anonymous #10 16w

I mean the chains you see in hiphop fashion it’s a specific kind that also stems from black culture! Not all chains are being discussed for clarity

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Anonymous #2 16w

I mean what I said?

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Anonymous #7 16w

If you check ops response to #6 they clarify the nails thing. It’s not all nails, it’s a specific style of nails that is common in black and other poc cultures

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Anonymous #10 16w

Nvm this is that thread 💀

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Anonymous #5 16w

Im saying that it’s a double standard is all! Because a lot of stud culture seems to be being buff and hey mamas idek I thought it was interchangeable with dyke which is why I think is weird

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If you know black culture you know EXACTLY what things I’m talking about, and I even mentioned that some of the culture is shared but that’s with other POC groups that actively took part in the creation of said culture so I’m confused by your comment?

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Anonymous #7 16w

Dykes and Studs have different connotations as to what racial group they belong to. Personally, when I think of dykes I think of white people and studs I think of black lesbians. I feel like a lot of hey mamas lesbians, who don’t grow up around Black culture btw, cop black culture by trying to wear clothing that typically reflect Black men. It’s just interesting when they’ve never acted like that and they easily have the ability to take off this costume and can pass as a different kind of queer

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Act like a stud is just like dressing with sagged pants, wearing wifebeaters, and definitely utilizing aave as rizz

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Anonymous #11 16w

https://youtu.be/LJLlG4827I4?si=rY188NKFckOsEl11

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I’m standing in solidarity with my POC/Black trans people who feel unsafe in spaces where white people think it’s okay to appropriate their culture that’s why I made this post

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Oh no, that’s not what we’re gonna do. Just because it’s pride month doesn’t mean that queer people should just be allowed to get away with cultural appropriation. Criticism is allowed and okay. There is good reason and that is not being an asshole. Staying informed is important and being part of a marginalized community, that should be clear to you

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Anonymous #7 16w

Yeah and dyke and stud are not interchangeable labels?? Studs can be dykes?? Dyke is just a term any lesbian can reclaim

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I’M BLACK…

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Anyone with a hint of a brain would make the easy ass inference that op is black

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“keep this energy out of pride month” and the energy is trying not to disrespect black ppl 😐

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Anonymous #10 16w

Whats clear is that this gatekeepig causes division and seems to be a one way street. Should yt ppl be allowed to ‘feel unsafe’ if black folkx trans or otherwise wear French tip nails? Or lululemon and polos? Is sterling silver only for yts? Hb platinum? There is clear cultural appropriation and inappropriate use of dialects but sometimes it’s stretch and u only seem to be focused on trans ppl which is weird2 me

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Anonymous #7 16w

The difference is, poc we’re forced to confirm to white culture because white people put them down for expressing their own, then white people co-opted the very culture they shamed poc for participating in

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Anonymous #1 16w

Righttttt so true not that theyretryin to say Vietnamese nails are black or loud jewlrey is black exclusively! Aave and Ebonics is appropriation. Wearing ghanian traditional African clothes is. Wife beaters? Loud jewelry? And only talking about trans folks? Not the vibe

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Anonymous #7 16w

Op has at multiple points now clarified that the points they are talking about are shared among multiple cultures and have culminated into what white people are now appropriating

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Anonymous #7 16w

Ah yes, lululemon, the brand name a white man made because he thought it was funny that Asian people couldn’t say it. Your point is being so helped by that

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Anonymous #7 16w

I LITERALLY mentioned the Asian influence in the nails (I didn’t know off the top of my head if ONLY Vietnamese people were part of it so I said Asian). I never said loud jewelry NOR wife beaters I listed specifically pieces of MY culture. And I specified trans people because I am also trans and have noticed this within my community (but now it is not solely a trans thing)

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Anonymous OP 16w

I’ve seen Persian guys in la wearing this style longer are they also appropriating?

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Anonymous #7 16w

I’m starting to think you are illiterate

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Yes. And studs can identify as dykes. This person was saying that dykes and studs are diffrent things. Studs are included in general words. So a stud cannot “act like a dyke” as a dyke is anything a lesbian could be, there is no one way to “act like a dyke”

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Anonymous #7 16w

You called me white I’m not explaining this shit to you 😒🖐🏾

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Anonymous #10 16w

Maybe idk because at a certain point these are the same arguments people who promoted segregation made. Hiphop and stuff like that have been made as a bridge to unite people in the country and the natural consequences of that are various elements spread to Hispanics, whites, Asians etc. and also the other direction too! There is bad faith appropriation but there is also people just trying to show appreciation or integrate with their community. And the targeting of trans women made me want to—

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Anonymous #7 16w

—- at least show that it’s not always so cut and dry

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Anonymous #2 16w

Idek if this is true but I mean it doesn’t change my point even so that it’s associated with white people at this point. I could have used any brand though like Tiffany’s jewelry or something. Asian ppl also wear lululemon which may be a shock to you

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Anonymous #7 16w

it’s not ever gonna be the same thing bc white people aren’t oppressed. it’s not uniting anyone bc liking our culture isn’t the same thing as respecting our people. you should investigate why someone saying “cultural appropriation is bad” got you so wired

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Anonymous #10 16w

So it started with Vietnamese people but it’s only a problem when white people also go to their nail salons? Make it make sense. Also the modern manicure also existed in Europe 🙀. The Vietnamese (which I am in part) don’t gate keep but you only say that it’s been shared before white people did it? Do you have any actual source for this or justvibes?

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Anonymous #1 16w

You’re being daft for no good reason if your takeaway is that I don’t think cultural appropriation is bad. What I’m saying is that not everything is your culture.

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Anonymous #7 16w

cultural appropriation isn’t just a matter of participating in another culture, it’s doing so without knowledge of or respect for that culture

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Anonymous #7 16w

i’m sure you think you think cultural appropriation is bad

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Anonymous OP 16w

And I misattributed the inclusion of the wife beater comment to your point but it was said in the comment about dyke/stud which is my bad

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Anonymous #2 16w

Yeah but the racial connotations are still there

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Anonymous #7 16w

I believe my use of the word “shared” is causing you confusion. I say shared as in it was part of multiple cultures, not that the Vietnamese (who your saying started nail art even though there are traces of nail art dating back to ancient Egypt and ancient China if you wanna get real specific) went around the world showing off their cool designs to everyone

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Anonymous #10 16w

They popularized it when the southern Vietnamese immigrated here after communists took over Vietnam which is why somany Vietnamese live here in US. And I don’t think you want to play (your saying____but it really started ____) format game dude because everything can be discredited that way and I won’t do that to your culture so why u try to say China was first??? Doy know history that Vietnam was incorportated to ancient empires at various times?

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Anonymous #7 16w

I’d also like to once again point out that not all nail art is being called appropriation, only certain styles that have been popularized specifically by women of color

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Anonymous #5 16w

I’m not trying to fight u, we’re both on the same side, I don’t think I fully understand what ur saying and I’m a lil out of it so I’m gonna go to bed, keep fighting seven

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Anonymous #2 16w

I’m not either. I think what’s being misunderstood is that Black lesbians/studs/men are the basis for the hey mamas stereotype and white lesbians take that as theirs. Studs are historically Black and are associated with Black lesbians

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Anonymous #5 16w

I fully agree. I think what I misunderstood is our ideas of what the labels mean. Personally hey mamas white lesbians are not in the category of d¥ke or butch to me, as many call themselves masc, and I don’t like how they take from black culture so heavily and play it off as something they came up with and almost stereotype studs and black men while doing it, so I agree with you fully on that. I was trying to call out #7 as their statement seemed to be “do studs who act like d¥kes (lesbians)

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Anonymous #2 16w

Scare you too” and I understood what you meant by white lesbians acting like studs but thought #7 was being really weird and kidna saying that studs aren’t as lesbian as white lesbians as d¥ke can be a word for any lesbian. I fully agree that a lot of white lesbians take from black culture and do it to a really weird degree that I can’t find the right words for

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Anonymous #2 16w

Damn friendly fire, I’m sorry retaliated 😔

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Anonymous #5 16w

It’s okay!!

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Again I’m not about to put names here however as a black trans person I HAVE seen this happening both IRL and online…? How are you going to discredit MY experience?

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Okay YOU thought of that, does not mean you can discredit my experience?

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Anonymous #14 16w

This yes, however I’m referring to multiple other things like fashion and other cultural things as well!

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Anonymous #5 16w

leave wife beaters out of this 😭

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Anonymous #15 16w

They must be mentioned I fear

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Anonymous OP 16w

So regarding hip hop fashion and street wear would you say it’s certain brands that are more problematic or is it like more how baggy items are being worn or layered. I was just looking up more about the history of hip hop fashion and I just wanted to ask some clarification questions. Also that’s fucked up “luxury” brands stole from black culture and are profiting off it when they were most likely the one’s looking down on it.

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Anonymous OP 16w

yeah but to play devils advocate the white people that demonized it are old asf u can’t really blame it on gen z like we didn’t do that horrible racist shit

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Anonymous OP 16w

Please find something more important to talk about

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Anonymous #17 16w

Why is it always “Devil’s Advocate” or “Well I don’t see it” when it comes to a black person/poc telling you point blank something is happening?

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Anonymous OP 16w

can u answer my questions tho? why is it the burden of young white folks when they have hard shit as well? why should a perfectly anti racist young white perosn be villainized for white people before them that have 0 blood or any relationship

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Anonymous #5 16w

no like what is “acting like a stud” are u trying to say acting black? how do u “act black” or “act white” you are a part of the race problem here

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Anonymous #17 16w

??? Acting like a stud yes means acting like a Black man/Black person. How am I part of the race problem when I’m calling out people who try to appropriate or gentrify Black culture?

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Anonymous #5 16w

because by saying someone is “acting black” you’re insinuating that black folks are inherently different from white folks. because no one says “acting white” your implying acting differently from normal “white behavior” would equal acting black. which is kinda perpetuating the race problem here by drawing more distinction between two groups

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Anonymous #17 16w

If you’re a “perfectly anti racist white person” then you wouldn’t be the one I was talking about. I’m not talking about them clearly so why did you bring them up? This entire post is a “if the shoe fits”!!

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Anonymous #17 16w

So what you don’t see color? If you looked at my previous comment, I stated that specifically white lesbians who haven’t grown up in Black culture are who I’m targeting. To say that there’s no difference in their culture is to say that they all act the same which they don’t.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Like it’s very irritating seeing (ig) white people fight me tooth and nail on MY experience on a post they had no obligation to comment on and somehow make white kids the victims instead of the black/poc kids who grew up with racist gen z kids

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Anonymous OP 16w

i can see how that would suck ass. like i’m really sorry that happened to you and fuck those people right. i guess i just get defensive because i would never want someone to assume im a bigot or ignorant because of my skin color (or even gay stereotypes for that matter) the same way im sure poc don’t want stereotypes yk (stereotypes just suck)

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Anonymous #22 16w

Dude don’t give into this tribalistic bs. There is no exclusive way of talking between races. It’s funny how the people do not see the racism. So if white people can’t talk “like” black people, I wonder what people think me as a Latino are supposed to talk ?

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Anonymous #21 16w

idk man I don’t think it’s up to me to decide what’s racist. I just know I sometimes pick up speech patterns from popular slang or black friends of mine and I wanna make sure I’m not doing a racism

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Anonymous #22 16w

To answer your question it’s both about the words and HOW you say it. A lot of the time people also start doing a “blaccent” which comes off a mockery. So yes you can pick up words from your friends that’s a natural thing, but please do not start changing your accent or how you pronounce the words as that can come off as mocking imo

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Anonymous #21 16w

Black people HISTORICALLY have had our culture ripped from us and rebranded into something we can’t even participate in. That’s not “taking an interest” and you know that stop getting defensive and LISTEN

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Anonymous OP 16w

As a Mexican of indigenous dissent I am no stranger to cultural erasure, but instead of relishing in the past admire the amount of influence that black Americans have over American culture in general. Instead of interpreting as appropriation. Who’s exactly not letting you participate?

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Anonymous #21 16w

Crown act for one LMAOO black people were discriminated against for wearing our natural hair to the point they had to make a law. People keep ignoring black voices, or getting defensive, or downplaying the lived experiences of black people to their face and all this bullshit instead of going “Damn how can I help?” Like this is literally the problem black people can’t even ASK white people to not appropriate without getting backlash what is not clicking?

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Anonymous OP 16w

I have been watching my culture get ripped from my people and all I see is two groups: the ones who call us ghetto while “participating” in our culture or the ones who’re ignorant to it and don’t care to listen

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Anonymous OP 16w

Ok I’m not invalidating what you say about black peoples history. But the fact is that isn’t happening anymore. No one is ignoring black voices bffr. We’ve literally had a black man in office twice, had a black woman as a presidential candidate and vice president, Beyoncé has won more Grammies then Celine Dione Taylor swift and Elvis Presley combined, sza and Kendrick performed at the Super Bowl (Kendrick’s second time).

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Anonymous OP 16w

The reason you are facing “backlash” and not getting “help” is because you don’t need it! And what you’re “feeling” is not rooted in reality straight up. I do not see yall as victims of anybody, there are incredibly hard working black Americans who shouldn’t be held by their race.

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Anonymous #21 16w

🫩🫩🫩 okay I’ll just tell my black family that racism is over you killed racism hooray!!!

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Anonymous OP 16w

Girl that’s not what I said 😭😭

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Anonymous #21 16w

How about you stop telling black people what to feel let’s start with that 😬😬 like genuinely you are telling me what I feel is not rooted in reality as if black people aren’t still facing oppression to this day??? Gurl YOU bffr with me rn

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Anonymous OP 16w

I wish I had the amount of representation and voice as a Hispanic. Instead we’re only seen as “workers” meanwhile black folk continue to get the attention and voice for the historical injustices they’ve faced. We’re all incredibly privileged as Americans

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Anonymous #21 16w

THEN YOU FUCKING WORK ON IT STOP STARTING SHIT WITH BLACK PEOPLE!!!!

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Anonymous OP 16w

How are u oppressed? What can we as black and brown folk not do in this country? Your feelings do not define black people as black people are not a monolith, I’ve met many of lovely black people that agree that there is nothing holding them back and they’d rather take a racist bigot then a country that is actually racist

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Anonymous OP 16w

Black people aren’t the ones fucking you over we are also oppressed girl FOCUS we aren’t your enemy! RACIST ARE YOUR ENEMY

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Girl what 😭 so I can’t highlight the success that some black folk have accomplished? To see that they CAN and HAVE achieved greatness? Tf toxic bs is that.

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Anonymous #22 16w

Wdym “it’s not up to you”. Who exactly is it up to? Well as a brown mf if you’re not a racist individual with racist intent you’re good 😚

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Anonymous #21 16w

But that doesn’t solve the issue I brought up nor does it fix systemic racism??? “One black person is successful so racism has been defeated” you are genuinely wild 🫩🫩

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Anonymous OP 16w

Oh trust me no one is fuckign me over. I’d encourage you to get out of whatever mindset you are in and recognize that your skin color is not something that holds you back anymore. Racism and bigotry exist, and I hate that, but systemically I know as a first gen American I have the tools to succeed in a country that used to be not so kind to black and brown folks. Why live in the past?

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Anonymous OP 16w

You never answered how your systemically opressed… and NO not disparities that are seen across all demographics, actual systems in place that discriminate against poc. Because there are none !

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Anonymous #21 16w

Girl shut up talking to me have the day you deserve then and good luck or whatever

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Anonymous #21 16w

…you realize that it’s possible to be racist accidentally, right? We all have gaps in our knowledge of cultures that we haven’t interacted w or learned abt. It’s all well and good if someone doesn’t consider themself racist, but saying that’s all you need to not be racist denies other people their feelings of offense and hurt at racist behavior and your own opportunity to genuinely learn abt them and their culture.

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Anonymous #23 16w

I’m a queer poc and i’m saying everyone is racist sometimes, but w/o intent for harm, it’s a learning experience not an attack

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Anonymous OP 16w

Omg I would never

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Anonymous #21 16w

I just meant I’m not gonna decide something isn’t racist if a poc thinks it is

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Anonymous OP 16w

wait i love this i need more berleezy reaction pics

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Anonymous #14 16w

I used to make drag/ballroom (a la Paris is Burning, not the waltz) costumes and I agree. A lot of drag queens would make fun of me if I didn’t fit in (talk like them, not dress “too straight”, etc). Out of character it was mostly whatever but in character they could be vicious! I’d try not to let anything slip in the wrong place, but it happened. I’m also Asian tho, so I’m def paying for my gf to go to the best Aunties nail salon and thanking Ms Tippi

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Anonymous #25 16w

You shouldn’t use ebonics/AAVE. A lot of the people who aren’t black and use ebonics took it from black people and rebranded it as internet lingo or gen z slang or even brainrot which contributes to the problem of cultural appropriation black people face. Not to mention it’s misused and ran into the ground

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Anonymous OP 16w

Even if I’m using it in the correct context and recognizing that it is Aave?

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Anonymous OP 16w

Bc it kinda feels like saying “you aren’t Korean you shouldn’t be speaking Korean.” I’m not diminishing the fact that it is something taken and changed or gentrified by white people im just saying that banning the words overall from other people, aside from slurs, is something that is separating people even more from each other.

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Anonymous #25 16w

You asked I answered lol I would just prefer you didn’t but I can’t stop you in reality

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Anonymous #25 16w

But the difference is that nobody tries to rebrand the Korean language as something else, or at least they shouldn’t. Why even ask if you were just gonna try and argue 🙄

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Anonymous OP 16w

Wasn’t trying to argue tbh. There are reasons I can argue for but I was just bringing up a point. You didn’t have to be rude abt it

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Anonymous OP 16w

Cis white people do this. Trans people aren’t affirming their gender by “appropriating” black culture, they’re just existing as white people.

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Anonymous #25 16w

Well for the last couple hours I’ve been getting people arguing and downplaying my experience so yeah I’m gonna have an attitude because you are not the first person to pull this exact line of reasoning on me

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Anonymous #26 16w

If the shoe fits, wear it. If you aren’t appropriating black culture you have no reason to get offended 🤷🏾‍♀️ love that you put it in quotes that’s cute

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Anonymous OP 16w

Why do you care??

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Anonymous OP 16w

I think I get it then. But at the same time, culture is meant to be shared. I don’t see what the big deal is here.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Congratulations lol

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Anonymous #28 16w

Why do I care????? AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH 😂😂😂

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Anonymous OP 16w

Like why would you care if, (here’s the stereotypical most brought up example), if a white woman and man wore dreads, etc? I don’t personally relate to or like anything from hip hop culture at all, as that is not what I grew up on and consider part of my soul, but isn’t the point of culture, for it to be shared?? Like what happened to the “melting pot” idea??

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Anonymous #28 16w

Because of the specific history of black people being discriminated for participating in their own culture!!!! It’s not sharing if people are shaming you for it and then turning around and doing it and calling it something else or refusing to give you credit. Also locs are VERY damaging for anybody who does not have a thick and coarse hair texture even black people with looser curls cannot get locs

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Anonymous #28 16w

Melting pots are problematic bc it then assumes every person under a culture is the same when they systematically and historically were not on equal footing lol

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Anonymous OP 16w

The U.S. has an incredibly dehumanizing history of black people and their culture and to this day I have been practically bombarded with people denying what I am saying has and does happen to me in real life!!!

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Anonymous #5 16w

Melting pots are problematic is crazy. wtf, I love that I live in such a diverse country. Tf would u it rather be all one race?

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Anonymous #21 16w

Holy racist💀💀💀💀💀

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Anonymous #21 16w

Why tf are you here? This group doesn’t even like terfs in their server.

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Anonymous OP 16w

I think both things can be true, that the us did not treat black folk well AND were allowed to be critical of your claims since they claim things that are based off anecdote, the black experience isn’t a monolith and I know black folk in my life who do not portray themselves like you do, I as a gay Hispanic won’t either because I can acknowledge the progress we’ve made in society, I’d rather be in the us leaguesss over Mexico because there’s a lot more here for poc

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Anonymous #28 16w

How tf is that racist? Girl bye

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Anonymous #28 16w

I love my trans friends wdym

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Anonymous #28 16w

What u said is weird af someone gonna call u out for ur

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Anonymous #21 16w

Well I agree almost across the board, but are you saying that…. we are not in a position in society to allow ourselves to be a mental pot of skin colors and cultures?? Like if we were to do so, I’d almost inherently be idling by as minority groups aren’t given the meaningful change they deserve?? If so, then yeah I agree. But you’d have to be careful that you meant lived experiences and cultural experiences, and not skin color

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Anonymous #21 16w

BRO I SAID I WAS DONE ARGUING WITH YOU GET OFF THIS POST PLEASE I BEG

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Anonymous #21 16w

I don’t want to strawman them by calling them racist, but it sounds really bad..

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Anonymous #28 16w

Lol ik

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Anonymous OP 16w

Arguing implies you have valid arguments 😭🙏

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Anonymous #21 16w

Why are you still here omg block me and move on with your annoying ass

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Anonymous OP 16w

I thought we were having a conversation. You don’t gotta be fuckin’ rude. If you didn’t know, there are two of us commenting on your messages rn…

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Anonymous OP 16w

You don’t want to listen to black people and I don’t like you!!!

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Anonymous #28 16w

I’m not talking to you #28 I’m talking to #21 whom I already had a whole convo with yesterday that’s why I’m irritated

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This is actually an interesting argument, I can see what you means. I wouldn’t say white supremacist more like western culture in general. The us admires talent but its so hard for all folk to get by these days. Eroticizing happens to all races and groups of people. Heard many people say how much they loveeee white boys. Bigger issues out there

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Anonymous OP 16w

Bro why u suck a douche to 28 😔

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Anonymous OP 16w

I’m listening I’m just disagreeing! My god how awful!

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Anonymous #28 16w

well i mean people with straight hair shouldn’t get protective styles bc it wasn’t designed for their hair type and it’ll make it fall out. also the melting pot is kind of a myth- all the cultures in the US haven’t integrated into a cohesive one like “melting pot” implies and sharing of cultures imo requires each culture to be socially equal and since we’re still very much oppressed that is not the case

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Anonymous #21 16w

I’m being a douche to YOU did my comment say it was to #28 cause for me I’ve been replying to you 😔

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Anonymous #21 16w

You ain’t listening and clearly you don’t want to have a productive conversation you I told you have a good day and YOU came back

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Anonymous #28 16w

also no we’re not in a position in society to be a melting pot idk if you noticed but no one can fuckin stand each other

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Anonymous OP 16w

Like honestly for YOUR mental health block me for the love of Christ 😰😰😰

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Anonymous #1 16w

I wouldn’t say we’re oppressed. We have very present disparities but in terms of what poc and whites can do there really isn’t nothing they can’t do, given both come from decent socioeconomic status. Not to say bigotry doesn’t exist, but aye if a racist wanna scarp that’s what my second amendment is for 🤷🏽🤷🏽also I don’t think integration happens, more like everyone contributing in someway which forms broader American culture

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Anonymous #1 16w

Ok this I can totally agree on. It’s unfortunate but people just can’t have normal productive conversation in attempt to understand each other. Everyone just wants to feel morally superior

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Anonymous #21 16w

“I wouldn’t say we’re oppressed” well you’d be wrong lmao i suspect you don’t fully understand what oppression is if that’s what you think

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Anonymous OP 16w

Bro said for my mental health but is tweaking 😭🙏

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Anonymous #1 16w

I am a homosexual neurodivergent male of indigenous Mexican dissent. Please educate me on what oppression is

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Anonymous #1 16w

Sorry meant my previous reply to #1

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Anonymous #21 16w

Me rn

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Anonymous OP 16w

Like you commenting on MY post to MY comments what’s not clicking

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Anonymous OP 16w

I’d dm you if you’d let me, I’d actually love to have a conversation with you

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Anonymous #21 16w

you got it. oppression isn’t always as black and white as maybe it looks during jim crow era segregation. there’s law on paper and law in practice, and oppression has always been mostly through practice. this means oppression through social systems, widespread biases, and unconscious discrimination. plus existing systems explicitly built on racist ideals still exist so even if no one was racist the systems that haven’t changed for decades definitely are

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Anonymous #21 16w

Okay on the real: I do not want to have a conversation with you. We have conversed twice and both times I have come to the conclusion that we will simply never agree and thus conversation with be fruitless. I would recommend you research more on this subject by those better versed in this matter than me if you genuinely want to learn more

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Anonymous #21 16w

also did u mean descent?

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Anonymous #1 16w

Ok you gave me two diffeeent answers almost, about systemic oppression and anecdotal oppression. Let me rephrase my question: on a SYSTEMIC level, what can poc do that white folk cant? NOT disparities, actual policies that prohibit poc?

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Anonymous #21 16w

what is the question here, I’m confused

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Anonymous #1 16w

Yes mb

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Anonymous OP 16w

That’s unfortunate. These conversations are some of my favorite. I always love to hear opposing views in attempts to challenge my own.

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Anonymous #28 16w

Stealing black styles that poc were formerly insulted for and rebranding them as in-fashion white people styles without giving any credit is bad (someone correct me if I missed smth)

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Anonymous #21 16w

ok 1 what in the world is anecdotal oppression 2 systemic doesn’t just mean policy 3 oppression isn’t always as explicit as “poc can’t do this or that”

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Anonymous #21 16w

like wdym “what can poc do that white folk cant” did you mean it the other way around?

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Anonymous OP 16w

Girl bye. This is literally an app bffr. This person asked a question and engages in conversation and you are over here acting like a victim. People are ALLOWED to question !

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Anonymous #21 16w

The fact that this is an app doesn’t give everyone else the excuse to be a dick 😭

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Anonymous #1 16w

“Social” oppression whatever other guy said, 2. You didn’t answer my question, 3. Sounds like a load of bs, but this is what oppression is truly: women unable to access education in Middle East, gays being killed in certain parts of Africa, the corruption in government and police that Mexicans face, Palestinians suffering through genocide, etc etc.

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Anonymous #21 16w

ok that’s actually just incorrect oppression is just certain groups being subjected to widespread mistreatment and control. also not everything you just mentioned as examples come from explicit policy so you’re contradicting yourself. it’s not like there’s an explicit policy telling police to mistreat minorities but you still identify that as oppressive so what’s up?

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Anonymous #21 16w

Are you the same #21 I thought we came to a conclusion already 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 16w

I’m enjoying our conversation

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Anonymous #21 16w

Wait you were blue now you’re purple

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Anonymous OP 16w

Sometimes I can turn white and black

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Anonymous #21 16w

Dammit you’re funnier than me 😂

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