Anonymous #11 6w

holy shit dude

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Anonymous #11 6w

You’ll be right there with me. And I’ll be focused on survival and you’ll be complaining about my pronouns

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Anonymous #19 6w

Lesbian that uses he him pronouns

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Anonymous #16 6w

Imagine being upset someone uses diffrent pronouns

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Anonymous #11 6w

pronouns do not always equal gender, someone can go by he/him pronouns but still identify as a woman THEY ARE VALID IN THEIR OWN IDENTITY

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Anonymous #8 6w

Okay…but wouldn’t the person using he/him pronouns identify as a man - conveniently? And if so, and there’s an attraction to women, would that make him straight? Cause transmen are men and men can’t be lesbians? Or does that only apply to cis men?

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Anonymous #19 6w

Using a certain set of pronouns doesn’t automatically make you that gender. I’m a guy who also uses she/her sometimes, but I’m still a guy yk

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Anonymous #7 6w

Well no it doesn’t automatically make you that gender..but is that not the whole point in using the preferred pronouns? To socially identify as those pronouns? Why would you use she/her only sometimes? Like I’m really just trying to understand as a very generic cis lesbian 😭

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Anonymous #20 6w

Yes valid, but if gender is a social construct and pronouns are used in society to confirm said gender, why wouldn’t they match?

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Anonymous #19 6w

Because I’m nonbinary and I like being called he him but I’m still not a man.

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Anonymous #19 6w

people in the lgbtqia+ community are already going against social constructs and how society sees us also people can choose their identity and that’s it that’s valid, it’s not other people’s place to say whether or not they’re valid or if it doesn’t make sense to them. because the person identifying themselves understands themselves, and using whatever pronouns or identities that make them happy and make sense to them is alright and also healthy for themselves

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Anonymous #8 6w

I think it’s less upset, and more confused. I’m a cis woman lesbian who uses she/her and sexually prefers other cis women lesbians who use she/her, and I get ripped apart for that like it’s controversial 💀

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Anonymous #20 6w

it is good to be sure in one’s own identity it does not matter what anyone else thinks

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Anonymous #8 6w

Why would you not use they/them since you are nonbinary? What does nonbinary mean to you if he/him pronouns are more comfortable but you are also not a man

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Anonymous #19 6w

Pronouns are no longer as tied to gender as they used to be. Those of us that use pronouns incongruent with our gender see them as just words, and some words come with better or more comfortable associations than others.

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Anonymous #7 6w

When did that split happen? Because I thought we were still trying to convince society to use the two together (mostly for nonbinary and they/them) so we are more understood and yall are not making that easy

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Anonymous #19 6w

Why do you expect a nonbinary person to use they them? What does nonbinary mean to you if you expect me to use they them

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Anonymous #8 6w

Being non binary by definition means NON (neither) of the binary (she/her or he/him in this case) if you are neither of the binary the only other pronouns that have been incorporated officially into the English language is they/them.

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Anonymous #19 6w

Well I’m not binary and I prefer he him. Because I’m non binary but masculine. I don’t like they because it feels like a attempt to make nonbinary a third gender, where I’m just not a man or woman fully, I’m not a third gender

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Anonymous #8 6w

The community was JUST fighting for nonbinary to be considered as a third gender for people who want to use they/them. Just because you don’t personally find it to be a third gender, doesn’t mean it’s not - and honestly it’s pretty disrespectful to say it’s not to all the nonbinary people who feel it is and have fought for it’s acceptance

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Anonymous #19 6w

The split was documented I think somewhere around 200 years ago :3

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Anonymous #19 6w

Nonbinary is not a third gender, it’s a spectrum of identities.

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Anonymous #19 6w

Nonbinary is a umbrella term for multiple identities and genders, not a third gender in and of itself. Nonbinary is a spectrum just like trans. There’s not only three genders

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Anonymous #19 6w

How do you think it feels when you say that I’m wrong because you don’t “get me” because you think I’m wrong about who I am.

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Anonymous #19 6w

I’m nonbinary and masculine. I’m a butch lesbian I just prefer he him. I’m a lesbian

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Anonymous #19 6w

We’re loving and accepting but not to people who say that not understanding someone’s personal identity makes them hateful and that they should dull down their identity so people can understand

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Anonymous #8 6w

No. I’m saying yall should not make your identity your entire personality. I’m not just a lesbian. I’m an artist, I work in conservation, I’m an environmentalist, I have hobbies. My sexual orientation is the last thing about me. I don’t want my rights taken away. I don’t want my right to get married taken away. I don’t want your rights to be taken away. So yes, we need to dull it down, because right now is not the fucking time.

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Anonymous #19 6w

I’m not interacting with someone who thinks being trans and wanting to be seen as who I am is “making it your entire personality.” I’m an artist, wanna be librarian, work the boutique at a queer youth Center, make shitty accessories, and am nonbinary. I’m stared at by conservatives, could be beat up in the bathroom, all for looking how I want to and being who I am, because not being who I am is A DEATH SENTENCE. Sorry you think that’s making it my whole personality. Thats your problem.

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Anonymous #8 6w

Whenever I go somewhere I have to see if they view me as male or female because who I am is not an option. If female I’m targeted because I have short hair and wear mens clothes. I’m a butch. If male I’m targeted because of my chest and high voice, I have to preform femaleness or maleness so I’ll be safe. Because if I’m viewed as male and they clock my voice I’m suddenly a fucked up woman who thinks she’s got a d1ck, who needs to be put in her place, shown she’s not a man.

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Anonymous #8 6w

Hi, this is #19’s very butch (cis wife) What area of the country do you live in? because we live in the south, and I never get those looks. to be fair, I don’t care how people look at me, and I certainly don’t think switching pronouns depending on the scenario helps at all…. Have confidence in yourself, and this won’t emotionally affect you as much ❤️

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Anonymous #19 6w

I’m not switching pronouns. I’m saying how others view me. Also having your wife log on and invalidate me as a trans person is really fucking weird and disrespectful.

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Anonymous #8 6w

A cis butch woman will be looked as differently that a visibly trans person

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Anonymous #19 6w

me if i lied

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Anonymous #19 6w

The only he/him lesbians I've met have been nonbinary people, and they happen to use he/him instead of they/them. Some people are less comfortable with they/them so they choose a binary pronoun. It doesn't negate the nonbinary identity. I can explain nonbinary lesbians if that's a point of confusion but i think it's generally accepted that the term lesbian can include nonbinary people who only like women or other nonbinary people.

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Anonymous #22 6w

Thank you for kindly explaining instead of teasing, I was also confused till reading this

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Anonymous #19 6w

no way you’re calling someone’s experience being visibly trans a “confidence issue” 💀 extremely privileged take

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Anonymous #19 6w

normally when someone says they exclude trans women (including post op) without any context, it’s easy to assume there’s a bad reason behind it. like not seeing them fully as women. but yk

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Anonymous #19 6w

also there’s been multiple explanations under this post, but #16’s comment is very obviously meant as a criticism and not an actual question

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Anonymous #8 5w

I thought you were nonbinary? Now you’re trans?

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Anonymous #19 5w

…nonbinary people are generally trans. We don’t align with our assigned gender.

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Anonymous #21 5w

I am just so fucking confused at this point. The definitions and terms do not mean what they meant just a few years ago and honestly it’s so much to keep up with. Good luck to everyone on their identity journeys I hope yall find peace

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Anonymous #19 5w

Trans means not aligning with the gender you are assigned at birth. Nonbinary people do not align with the gender they are at birth. I am nonbinary and trans.

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Anonymous #22 5w

Wait wait wait. (Gen asking) if it’s an amab nonbinary, would that still be lesbian???

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Anonymous #26 5w

“It”???

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Anonymous #26 5w

Nonbinary is nonbinary, no matter the agab, so if they identify as lesbian then yeah

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Anonymous #19 5w

The reason trans men, or people using he/him pronouns, can identify as lesbian is because a lot of them grew up identifying as lesbian pre-transition, and that community would be very difficult to simply give up because they have identified with lesbians for basically their whole lives

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Anonymous #26 5w

first off, for future information, it's generally considered rude to call anyone it (unless they specifically ask you to). I've personally never met an amab nonbinary lesbian, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't see any reason why they couldn't exist, cause nonbinary is nonbinary regardless of sex assigned at birth, i just haven't encountered that in real life.

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Anonymous #19 5w

No 😒

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Anonymous #19 5w

This 💯

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Anonymous #29 5w

they only got downvoted for the ones where they were expressing an opinion, not asking questions…

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Anonymous #29 5w

straight up victim complex

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