Anonymous #1 16w

LGBTQ community dipshit not total yikyak

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Anonymous #2 16w

No one benefits from the patriarchy, ESPECIALLY not queer men.

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Anonymous #2 16w

“Men and masculinity. Trans men and mascs” do you think a butch lesbian who sees how some of yall call butches ugly and manly is an agent of the patriarchy. When you make fun of trans men for having patchy facial hair and say they’re not oppressed because they’re men, overlooking the fact that transness is looked down on so much they have nowhere near the amount of privilege as a cisgender man

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Anonymous OP 16w

bunches are not men??? lmaooo also anyone can be an agent of patriarchy including cis woman. when u bemoan woman for hating men you are being a misogynist

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Anonymous #2 16w

Now where the fuck did I say that

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Anonymous #2 16w

I am bemoaning the constant demonisation of not men, but masculinity as a whole. Toxic masculinity is the problem, not masculinity as a whole

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Anonymous #2 16w

I’m saying that it’s fucking weird to say shit like “men are so gross I don’t get how anyone would WNAT to be a man” because it’s acting like trans men are choosing to be men as if there’s another option when that’s literally how their brain works

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Anonymous OP 16w

😂sorry if a nerve was hit too hard, just elaborate next time!

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Anonymous #1 16w

Your comment makes it super clear that you either: don’t pay attention to this issue in irl spaces, are exceedingly lucky to be in spaces that somehow accept masculine people who have never experienced this or never bring it up, or aren't in any in-person spaces with masculine people in them at all

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Anonymous OP 16w

The options for trans men are to detransition or die, sometimes. Tbh the worst part for me is that I can't even publicly mention masc ppl's experiences in a way that isn't just immediately treated like an invasion, derailment, or excuse to misgender trans people. I can deal with the horrible things I've had to do to survive, but I sure wish I could bring them up to people and feel relatively confident that I'll be met with compassion or at least neutrality

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Anonymous #4 16w

... you are acting like women are not oppressed more

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Anonymous #2 16w

No one’s acting like women aren’t oppressed more. We can talk about two things at once and anti masculinity sentiments in the trans community can also exist when women are oppressed

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Anonymous #2 16w

Oh yeah. I’m so mra because I want people to stop acting like having a mustache and the side effects of t are “so gross” and acting like it’s okay to say trans men have neckbeards and pedo staches and butches are too masculine and manly and being butch reinforces gender roles.

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Anonymous #2 16w

Explain how I'm acting that way please! I'd love to learn. My goal is to accept & celebrate healthy masculinity and femininity in people across genders, while opposing unhealthy ideas around masculinity & femininity, with the overall goal of dismantling patriarchal and white-supremacist systems (among others) so everyone is safe. Oppression olympics goes against standard theories of intersectional feminism, so I don't engage with ideas around what singular class of people is "most oppressed"

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