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Hot take but the way this community treats men and masculinity makes trans men and masc people afraid to be true to themselves in their masculinity
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Anonymous 23w

i mean this with love all queer men are often intentionally or not agents of the patriarchy when you say shit like this

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Anonymous 22w

you sound like an mra dude

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23w

No one benefits from the patriarchy, ESPECIALLY not queer men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23w

“Men and masculinity. Trans men and mascs” do you think a butch lesbian who sees how some of yall call butches ugly and manly is an agent of the patriarchy. When you make fun of trans men for having patchy facial hair and say they’re not oppressed because they’re men, overlooking the fact that transness is looked down on so much they have nowhere near the amount of privilege as a cisgender man

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 23w

bunches are not men??? lmaooo also anyone can be an agent of patriarchy including cis woman. when u bemoan woman for hating men you are being a misogynist

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23w

Now where the fuck did I say that

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23w

I am bemoaning the constant demonisation of not men, but masculinity as a whole. Toxic masculinity is the problem, not masculinity as a whole

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23w

I’m saying that it’s fucking weird to say shit like “men are so gross I don’t get how anyone would WNAT to be a man” because it’s acting like trans men are choosing to be men as if there’s another option when that’s literally how their brain works

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 22w

The options for trans men are to detransition or die, sometimes. Tbh the worst part for me is that I can't even publicly mention masc ppl's experiences in a way that isn't just immediately treated like an invasion, derailment, or excuse to misgender trans people. I can deal with the horrible things I've had to do to survive, but I sure wish I could bring them up to people and feel relatively confident that I'll be met with compassion or at least neutrality

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 22w

Oh yeah. I’m so mra because I want people to stop acting like having a mustache and the side effects of t are “so gross” and acting like it’s okay to say trans men have neckbeards and pedo staches and butches are too masculine and manly and being butch reinforces gender roles.

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