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The general idea of Marxist communism is accurate, but we shouldn’t glorify the Soviet Union just because of that, even ironically. Millions of people are dead due to a tyrant. It’s no different from any other dictatorship, including the US
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Anonymous 16w

not sure how this is relevant. the hammer and sickle is a symbol of communism in a broader sense, not exclusively representative of the Soviet Union

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Anonymous 16w

THANK YOU.

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Anonymous 16w

As a Ukrainian-American thank you! I don’t understand why so many leftist especially white leftists glorify the Soviet Union. Like the Soviet Union committed genocide against Ukrainians, these are the same people who are against all other genocides, and it just shows that they don’t really care about genocides

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w

I think people mainly glorify it because the Soviet union to some extent proved for the first time that left wing policies can work. The Soviet Union was the blueprint and we can learn to be better from the failures they had

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

And those same ppl often ignore the fact that they committed genocide. We can’t learn from it if we don’t acknowledge it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16w

It was a symbol originating from the Russian Revolution, and was used as the flag of the Soviet Union. It makes sense that it’s still very tied to the Soviet Union in the minds of most people

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 16w

OP reacted to the post as if using the symbol in any sense was equivalent to romanticizing the Soviet Union. it’s not.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w

I agree.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16w

And I’m just saying it’s understandable that op thought that. It’s a pretty common opinion among the general public

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 16w

Even if it’s not accurate

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 16w

well then it’s a good thing someone set them straight without commenting on whether or not their misconception was understandable, huh 👍

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16w

I wasn’t arguing with you? I’m not sure why you’re responding like this? I was adding onto your comment, and explaining why the OP probably made that mistake

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16w

I don’t really understand the downvotes or the sarcastic huh 👍

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 16w

it definitely came across like you were trying to argue with something I hadn’t said. but even with that not being your intent, I just don’t think anyone needs it explained to them that the hammer and sickle is Often associated In Part with Soviet history. that’s redundant (especially when no one was actively trying to dunk on OP for not knowing better), and when you needlessly explain the obvious to another person without being prompted, that has a tendency to sound like condescension

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Anonymous 16w

Look up the Holodmor and educate yourself please

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Anonymous 16w

I had family members die during the Ukrainian genocide

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Anonymous 16w

…my family fled the Soviet Union due to the genocide. They had no ties to the Nazis.

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Anonymous 16w

I can’t imagine being this disrespectful to victims of a genocide.

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Anonymous 16w

Wtf is your problem

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Anonymous 16w

No, we said we can’t use countries like the USSR or China as a model for excellence with regard to the atrocities they have committed. This is a stupid argument because no one is arguing the United States is good. In fact, you’re the only person who brought up the West.

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Anonymous 16w

China’s main economic policy is literally mercantilist slave labor. They give out loans to poorer countries for critical infrastructure, and when they default, they seek repetitions in other ways.

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Anonymous 16w

You realize that just because something opposes a terrible thing doesn’t mean it’s incapable of being flawed itself right? And disrespecting victims of a genocide doesn’t do anything to solve any of the problems you claim to care about

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Anonymous 16w

No one here is anti communist, and no one here used anti communist rhetoric

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Anonymous 16w

Historically, China did this in many countries. You can blame developing countries all you want, but the fact is that they won’t be sufficiently organized. They repeated this pattern in multiple countries, and it cannot be argued that they weren’t aware that asset seizure was the most likely outcome when they brokered these loans

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

you quote-posted a lighthearted pro-communism shitpost just to disingenuously frame it as “glorifying the Soviet Union”. regardless of your individual political beliefs, you absolutely did post anti-communist rhetoric

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