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hot take: people are too comfortable criticizing “bad feminists” and people who don’t trust men, instead of the misogyny and patriarchal violence that they’re reacting too
Hot take: People are too comfortable taking out their justifiable frustrations with the patriarchy out on *individuals* who didn’t put that system in place and who also suffer from it
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Anonymous 1d

I think both should be criticized, as the faux feminists are actively contributing to the patriarchy and things like bioessentialism

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Anonymous 1d

The reaction to misogyny in question being treating every man like satan regardless of whether he’s actually misogynistic or not

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Anonymous 13h

i legit know a girl who genuinely believes men deserve to be harmed just because they're men. i don't think people being like "men suck" when men are being shitty are bad people or bad feminists, but sometimes men aren't doing "not all men"isms, it's fake feminists genuinely saying "all men" or treating men poorly because they're men

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

And adding on regardless of if he’s also a feminist or not, he can be outspoken, he can vote, he can defend women tooth and nail and then told he has something evil in him that all men do by bioessentialists who refuses to see people as people

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

faux feminist and bad feminist don’t mean the same thing! people get called bad feminists when they’re “too hard on men”, that’s what i’m talking about

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

i feel like you’re either wildly exaggerating or making up a kinda person… people don’t trust men because they’re protecting themselves, whether someone says they’re a feminist or not, isn’t the thing that decides if they’re safe

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

The entire point of my post was that people who were my friends treated me differently for being a man after transitioning despite me being the same person with the same beliefs, and treating someone in a lesser way for being a man despite KNOWING they’re a feminist, and others extrapolating from what I said to mean women shouldn’t be distrusting of men

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

By faux feminist I mean the people who believe in bioessentialism and mistreat people simply because they were born male or identify as a man

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Not referring to women who are generally just wary or avoidant of men, there is a difference

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

yeah but i think they often fall under similar veins which is why it’s kind of a weird line to walk. some “bad” feminists may also still believe and perpetuate ideas that are bioessentialist or classist or racist and be more prone to falling down right wing pipelines without realizing it and become radicalized in the wrong direction, ultimately doing more harm than good

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

you obviously have to use a light touch and be kind and understanding but giving people a pass for their regressive ideas based on their identity or experiences of oppression, usually just leads to either further disenfranchisement, or in the case of feminism you a lot of women end up, at best abandoning, at worst targeting the most vulnerable members of our community (women of color and queer especially trans women)

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