LGBTQIA+ on Yik Yak | I asked this question in a thread on binary trans men who identify as lesbians. I never got an answer so I thought I’d ask again as I truly don’t understand but I’d like to. What are y’all’s thoughts?

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I asked this question in a thread on binary trans men who identify as lesbians. I never got an answer so I thought I’d ask again as I truly don’t understand but I’d like to. What are y’all’s thoughts?

2 upvotes, 8 comments. Yik Yak image post by Anonymous in LGBTQIA+. "I asked this question in a thread on binary trans men who identify as lesbians. I never got an answer so I thought I’d ask again as I truly don’t understand but I’d like to. What are y’all’s thoughts?"

Anonymous 8w

The difference between trans men and cis men is that, as trans men, we lived as women for however long. We have the experience of being a woman, of being in relationships and presenting in society as a woman. Cis men have not, and they will not.

Anonymous 8w

I never understood different “types” of love overall, honestly. Shared experiences matter for a relationship ofc, but it doesn’t change love itself for me. Respect for an individual is irrespective of my own gender. That said, I’m leaning more towards saying I’m demi or aro, so grain of salt.

Anonymous 8w

I see you! There are several ways to consider what being a lesbian is. The first is the dictionary meaning, but generally what's being talked about here is the culture. Trans men often were lesbians before coming out as well, and participation in that community often shapes cultural ideas around love and sex that aren't really found anywhere else. A lot of people like the dynamics they learn in the lesbian community, so continuing to identify with them allows them to keep that dynamic

Anonymous

#1 8w

I see. I’m still not quite sure what is meant by “love women like a lesbian.” (I know those aren’t your words but the other replier’s so if you wouldn’t use them then let me know) Does living as a woman change/affect the way you love women in the future? Also, does the same thing go both ways (i.e, might what I would think of as a gay trans man identifying as straight as since they formerly lived as a women, they love men “like a straight women”)?

Anonymous

OP 8w

For me, personally, it very much affects the way i love women. my lived experiences as a woman made too big of an impact on me for it not to also impact my relationships. i personally have no clue abt that last bit, i dont have any experience to draw on im very sorry. but i personally would not use the phrase, simply bc it just. does not make sense to me. i don't just "love women like a lesbian" i AM a lesbian. i do hope this helps a little, or it at least makes sense 😅

Anonymous

#1 8w

I’m wondering if here my autism is screwing me over a bit, or else we have different conceptions of what the word means. Up until now I’ve thought of lesbian as meaning “non-men who are attracted exclusively (at least in general) to non-men,” which of course would mean a man couldn’t be a lesbian. But maybe I’m taking too literal an approach to language? Or else, maybe the word has different meanings in different contexts? Thank you for your response!!

Anonymous

#3 8w

And I have a very leftist perspective on this I think, but I do think that the cultural definition would mean that a cis man could ID as a lesbian if they had the same cultural & community integration. (They just typically don't, and imo that is a prerequisite). Your personal ID doesn’t mean you require all lesbians to like you (and we don't all like everyone lol) but what matters is that you're respectful and aware. I'm also autistic & enjoyed reading butch is a noun if you want

Anonymous

#3 8w

Ooh thanks for the book recommendation! I think I get it, When a trans (or even possibly cis) man identifies as lesbian, the identity is best understood not as referring to their current gender identity, but to the communities from which they formed their understanding of relationships.