Anonymous #1 4w

The fetishization of trans bodies is very similar to how we’re represented in porn categories, just buzzwords and thinly veiled transphobia

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Anonymous #3 4w

gotcha. ig im just not aware of that

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Anonymous #6 4w

So close! Bisexual = “my gender” and “not my gender”. Able to be attracted to everyone but gender plays a role in it. Pansexual = anyone regardless of gender, and gender plays no role in attraction!

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Anonymous #2 4w

Because the epidemic of actual fetishizers who appropriate the cloak of bisexuality/pansexuality should rightfully be distinguished from actual identities

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Anonymous #3 4w

Yeah but don’t bash those identities at the same time

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Anonymous #6 4w

Trans isn’t a separate gender but it is important to say that bisexual isn’t just “I’m attracted to men and women” but also includes non binary people. Pansexual and bisexual are mainly interchangeable in regards to being attracted to everyone, but pansexual means you don’t lean towards one gender more than another where bisexual does.

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Anonymous #9 4w

It still sounds fetishizing a bit, can’t place my finger on why, but it’s fine if they call themselves that

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Anonymous #8 4w

Yeahh it’s really hard to call out disingenuous chasers and fetishizers without accidentally netting pan and bi folk. I wonder how one would do that?

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Anonymous #3 4w

Thank you for the reply! I’ll keep that in mind when talking about that in the future

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Anonymous #7 4w

Close, but not quite. Bi = attraction to one or more genders—doesn’t have to be your own plus another. Pan is correct though.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Uh…by not saying bi or pan people??? Jsut call them chasers or fetishizers and stop looping us in

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Anonymous #3 4w

Op really sounds like they don’t believe in pan sexuality so….

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Anonymous #14 4w

Obviously, but also don’t put down those of us who are pan or bi at the same time like op is doing

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Anonymous #7 4w

Okay so maybe I’m just a little behind here. But why is bisexual the preferred terminology if bi means two? I understand that bi is an umbrella term. But if someone is attracted to three genders, for example, are they not technically polysexual and not bisexual? How can someone be attracted to everyone and be bisexual? Wouldn’t that make them pan or omni?

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Anonymous #9 4w

They can be in some people’s eyes, but pan is more the non physical while bi is the physical parts of someone…

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Anonymous #8 4w

girl i'm bi 😭 but yes

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Anonymous #3 4w

Literally just cut the first eight words of the post

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Anonymous #6 4w

The origin of the term is for sexual attraction based in genitals, and came from a time when intersex wasn’t widely known about. It was never abt men/women bcos it wasn’t abt gender at all, it was abt penis/vagina

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Anonymous faeriegarden 4w

You definitely have to be attracted to multiple genders to be bi 😭 it cannot be one. That would be gay or straight. If bi meant “one or more”, then that would include everyone who isn’t asexual.

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Anonymous #1 4w

To be clear, the fetishization of trans people is not connected to pansexuality

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Anonymous #9 4w

Nah, it’s not fetishizing because it’s not sexual. You’re being goofy abt their genders, not talking abt their body parts. “Best of both worlds” almost always refers to trans women who have breasts as well as a penis.

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Anonymous #15 4w

^

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Anonymous #15 4w

Ahhh that makes sense

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Anonymous #1 4w

what Everybody else said

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Anonymous #15 4w

Preach

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Anonymous #5 4w

OP is calling out chasers using the guise of pan sexuality to sexualize us when in realzity they don’t actually see us for who they are. Pansexuality and bisexuality should not have a line drawn for trans people, which makes it disingenuous. That’s why there’s quotations. Not intended for well meaning folk

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Anonymous #8 4w

imo it should be its own post, but I keep coming across people who think they’re pan because they like trans guys/girls who don’t have bottom surgery. they think pan = not caring about genitals and that it’s ok to be a chaser bc of it. I’m tired so it’s hard to fully explain but I hope I got my point across

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Anonymous #14 4w

I think you missed the point this post isn’t abt sexuality

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Anonymous #9 4w

Sounds fetishizing but that sounds like it needs more context / is a much more specific example than the phenomena OP is discussing

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Anonymous #19 4w

Oh my gosh?? Terrible.

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Anonymous #18 4w

It kinda is tho

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Anonymous #5 4w

chasers will call themselves pan to justify chasing. regular pan people are chill but those guys aren’t

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Anonymous #15 4w

Yup, it’s just often chasers use the label to seem “accepting” so they can prey on trans ppl

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Anonymous #18 4w

this post is 100% about sexuality. the point was that chasers will like a pre-op trans guy/girl and be like “oh I must be pan because I like this person” when they’re just fetishizing

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Anonymous #18 4w

the phrase has been ruined for many, but in the right context it’s chill

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Anonymous #18 4w

my ex was like that, I came out to her since I knew she was pan and would be ok with me being trans. her response and later fetishizing of me pushed me away from the identity and community for two years. now she has another trans fem NB partner and I imagine it’s the same thing. those people are so scummy.

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Anonymous #6 4w

i’m older, so maybe this has changed, but when i started identifying as pan the distinction was pansexual = gender-specific characteristics not influencing attraction bisexual = being attracted to more than one gender’s gender-specific characteristics

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Anonymous #16 4w

literally happens in this community too 😭 it’s bad

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oh transsexual isnt a sexuality, it’s a type of transition. transing your sex as opposed to transing your gender :)

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Anonymous #19 4w

… that IS what pansexuality means?? Like, that’s the accepted definition. Sexual attraction regardless of gender. People who think that it implies that it’s okay to be a chaser are obviously wrong, ofc, but that comment is just saying that neither sexuality is inherently trans-exclusive

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Anonymous #15 4w

both sexualities are trans inclusive ..

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Anonymous #16 4w

That’s what I just said dog 😭

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Anonymous #15 4w

they didn’t say it was sexuality regardless of gender, they said it was sexuality regardless of genitals. I think you misread it

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Anonymous #19 4w

wait how do you trans your sex.. like medical transition?

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