Anonymous #1 12w

Kinda what? God forbid I as a lesbian hate most men because they’re fucking awful

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Anonymous OP 12w

Okay saying most men is fine. I just don’t like blanket statements like you insinuating in your original post. I think blanket statements like that are harmful because they make assumptions about who someone is and what they believe simply off their identity that they can’t change

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Anonymous #1 12w

I legit do not care, all men are guilty until proven innocent

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Anonymous OP 12w

Okay well that’s pretty ignorant to say that you completely don’t care but whatever. Adding that I’m not a cis man for context. I think assuming that anyone is a bad person simply because of what they identify as is harmful because it’s exactly what straight cis people have done to queer people for centuries. If you don’t see that idk what to tell you girl

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Anonymous #1 12w

Boo fucking hoo, I don’t care. Men have oppressed women for centuries, straight people have oppressed queer people for centuries. God forbid I don’t like men as a lesbian woman

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Anonymous OP 12w

Bro this is such a useless conversation at this point. Imma clock out cause there’s no reasoning here.

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Anonymous #1 12w

You’re the one in the comments of my post💀

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Anonymous #1 12w

Imagine being a man apologist, just say you want all women to be oppressed

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Anonymous #2 12w

Literally cause why are we defending CIS MEN of all people

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Anonymous #2 12w

That’s not at all what I said but okay go off ig

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Anonymous #1 12w

It’s exactly what you said

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Anonymous #1 12w

If you let anyone of them get away with misogynistic bullshit you let all them get away with it bc you show it’s okay

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Anonymous #2 12w

I said that blanket statements are harmful regardless how they are used because the paint a false narrative. It would be harmful to say “all lesbians hate cis men” because it’s not true.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Men aren’t oppressed by lesbians so who gives a fuck if a very tiny community of people don’t like the people that oppress them

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Anonymous #2 12w

I quite literally said I disagree with the guy who made that original post and I agree that cis men have should stay out of lesbians business like that.

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Anonymous OP 12w

It’s the principle of it. I don’t think we should treat other people poorly because the system has put them in a position of power and not us. It’s a broken system that was created a long long time ago and there nothing that any of us can do to make systemic change rn. They didn’t ask to be in power just like we didn’t ask to be oppressed. There are many many men who stand with us and support us and what not. Simply saying that all men are the issue is irresponsible

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Anonymous #1 12w

Blanket statement like that save lives when we are talking about cis men. As a woman you are most likely to be raped by a cis man, most likely to experience domestic violence at the hands of a cis man, most likely to be killed by a cis man. All cis men should be viewed as dangerous until they give you a reason to believe they aren’t going to rape and murder you

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Anonymous #1 12w

You sound exactly like those people who say “all lives matter” holy shit

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Anonymous #2 12w

Not saying you shouldn’t be weary of cis men, I am too, but I don’t even think that’s super relevant to my point. I’m simply speaking of this online discourse.

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Anonymous #1 12w

You want to bring up the system that is what the system has created

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Anonymous OP 12w

Girl bffr. Yall are gonna attack me because you aren’t gonna listen to what I’m actually saying, but all lives do matter. I disagree with that movement because it is a movement that undermines and was created in protest of the Black Lives Matter movement. Obviously I support the Black Lives Matter movement. Without the acknowledgment of these specific movements though, all lives are equal (unless you’ve like done some heinous act)

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Anonymous #1 12w

Just a big fucking word salad to defend yourself lmaooooo

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Anonymous #2 12w

Op brought the system up saying that men aren’t oppressed by lesbians. I think we could all do better with being more precise with language and not creating blanket statements and stereotypes and what not. I’m not saying that either one of you are wrong or anything for having your opinions btw

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Anonymous OP 12w

Girl you are so frustrating to talk to. You play the victim so hard actually and constantly pivot the argument😭

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Anonymous #1 12w

I ain’t playing the victim, I think it’s fucking hilarious to watch you lose your mind in the comments. I argue and switch up cause it’s silly

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Anonymous #1 12w

“they didn’t ask to be in power” okay that doesn’t negate the fact that they are still and all cis men in some way do exploit that still whether they mean to or not. i am poor and i hate rich people. i am a woman and i hate men. cry about it

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Anonymous #3 12w

No that’s valid. Idk how to better explain my position in that sense and there are definitely flaws in my argument considering I only have the understanding that my own life has given me. I do think that hate is a very strong word as well. I think we all hate the system and are frustrated with how it has divided and let so many people be taken advantage of, but I don’t hate the literal people within the system unless they’ve given me a reason to. Idk if that makes sense

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Anonymous OP 12w

I’m not losing my mind. I’m actually calmly laying in bed rn lmao. I’m a political science major so debating and what not is just like part of what I do

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Anonymous #1 12w

I legit don’t gaf💀

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Anonymous #1 12w

i hate until given a reason not to because the understanding that my life has given me has shown me that most cis men, in some way or another, do not view women as equals

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Anonymous OP 12w

For someone who continues to say you dont gaf you certainly have given me a lot of your time don’t you think?

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Anonymous #1 12w

This is my post by the way

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Anonymous #3 12w

That’s an interesting perspective. Genuinely would love to dm and talk privately cause I feel like you’re willing to actually have a conversation. To me hate inherently means that I give attention and thought to these people to actively hate them, whereas most people that I just don’t like much I disregard because like idc about them yk

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Anonymous OP 12w

Okay? And you are capable of disengaging in this conversation if you choose

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Anonymous #1 12w

Still my post

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Anonymous OP 12w

Okay. Good for you ig? Idk why you think that’s like relevant and a winning point

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m not trying to win, after my experience with men there is legit nothing you can say or do to change my opinion

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this isn’t the hot take you think it is, women are actively oppressed while men are the ones oppressing us. youre just like every other man

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Anonymous #3 12w

Not where I live. And a wealthy woman will pretty much always face less oppression than a poor man. I don't even believe the comment I wrote, I just wanted to turn around some of the braindead comments OP wrote.

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Anonymous #4 12w

that is a class issue, not a gender issue. a middle class woman and a middle class man are not treated the same and you know that. stop being intentionally ignorant. you think women are not treated differently because you have not had to live with the struggle that women do.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Not where I live. Oppression affects both genders in different ways and you know that. Stop being intentionally ignorant. You have not had to live with the struggle that men do

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Anonymous #4 12w

where do you live exactly ?? some utopian land where all genders are equal?? pleaseeeee look into the struggles that women face and stop pretending like you have it just as bad

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Anonymous #3 12w

California. How are women more oppressed than men here?

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Anonymous #4 12w

crazy you live in the US and you think women aren’t more oppressed than men

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Anonymous #4 12w

like genuinely have you ever spoken to a woman? do you not understand the fear that every woman experiences doing simple tasks like taking their dog for a walk? or going out for a night at a bar?

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Anonymous #4 12w

like genuinely truly i can’t change your mind, but i highly suggest you talk to the women in your life about how they’ve been treated differently for their sex, and read some books about the female experience

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Anonymous #5 12w

I’m a cis woman myself but there were huge parts of my life where I felt like I wasn’t so like cis people equally grind my gears lol

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Anonymous OP 12w

🤝

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Anonymous #3 12w

Genuinely do you realize men are enslaved at a high rate by the prison industrial complex, and men kill themselves more due to lack of mental health access/ societal oppression, and men currently face less opportunity from an education system favored against them? Ik I cant change your mind but go read on the current male experience

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Anonymous #4 12w

men are in prison because men commit more violent crimes, and men die by suicide more often because they tend to choose guns more than women, not because they attempt more. men have equal access to mental health resources they just tend to be more stubborn to accepting help. not because they’re “oppressed”. i urge you to look into how women are victimized by men instead of convincing yourself that men aren’t just victims of their own oppression

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Anonymous #4 12w

like yes men do struggle getting help, but that is due to the societal conditions that OTHER MEN have created, not because of women.

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Anonymous #4 12w

(Men were the ones who set that system up)

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Anonymous OP 12w

Lol you guys are so fucking dumb its crazy

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Anonymous #4 12w

Hate to break it to you buddy but you’re the only one that looks dumb here

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Anonymous #4 12w

yes instead of proving me wrong call me dumb, great! i totally agree with you now!

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Anonymous #3 12w

Black people enslaved other black people, are you gonna blame black people for slavery now? Black people disproportionately commit more crime, are you gonna blame them now? Do you see the cognitive dissonance here? The privileged men who created a system of oppression against women AND men don't face those negative repercussions, so how can you blame the oppressed men for the privileged men's actions? Why does it matter that the oppressor is a man, when both genders suffer (in different ways)?

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