2nd being Chris and the whole cuddling situation. It was very uncomfortable to watch because when someone turns you down, you should always leave them alone. The poking and shaking was not necessary and the threat was disgusting. He doesn’t have to cuddle with her when he doesn’t feel like it. Talking, dating, exploring or whatever you want to call it does not give you unlimited access to your partners body and you shouldn’t respect their wishes when they say no.
1st with Ace. As much as yall dislike him, the first chat after the recoupling he had with Amaya wasn’t that bad. He was honest about still being open to exploring other connections and told her his boundaries, something he has been consistent with the entire time. Her reaction was that she felt like he bursted her bubble and that he was a player. He even apologized for how he made her feel because that wasn’t his intentions. He was just being honest.
I think she reacted poor because it’s not the best thing to hear after a recoupling but I don’t think it was too much to ask for. And if it was the other way around I doubt anyone would have a problem with it because Olandria didn’t cuddle with Taylor in the beginning and it wasn’t that big of a deal. We all just accepted it.
I think he was genuinely interested in exploring her but wanted to be honest with her about his actions and what his boundaries were. She didn’t react the best and he apologized and even asked her what she wants for breakfast the next day. But she was upset because he hugged Chelley and made an entire thing out of it the next day. Then at the docks he tried to fix things and she basically did what Huda did and kept interrupting him. And they just didn’t work out after that.
I think if he hadn’t been hugging or planning dates with Chelley she wouldn’t have been as upset. I don’t think he was being a player (but I can understand why Amaya maybe thought so) but I think Amaya’s frustration was that he told her one thing and then was being physical and actively trying to get chelley’s attention. She most likely felt like he was stringing her along. And in taylor and olandria’s case he never liked her so he was fine not being physical with her.
I agree her reaction sucked and I didn’t like how she attacked Chelley either. But idk… if I was in her shoes I’d probably be sour about it. He was planning lavish dates and she didn’t get any of that. But they crashed and burned fairly quickly. I just didn’t appreciate how it seemed like he was always talking down on her but that might just be a me thing
The hugging thing was before he planned the date but even then you can’t compare two different relationships. It’s like me asking you why you’re comfortable hugging your best friend and not a stranger. It’s unfair for her to expect the same level of physical touch with him when he’s expressed it takes him a while to get to that stage. And I’m pretty sure Amaya yelled at Chelley before she even knew Ace planned the date.
Also regarding if Taylor liked her or not, I don’t think we as viewers would have felt a type of way about her not wanting to cuddle. If you don’t want to be touched/ cuddled then you can say no and not do it. But it’s weird to be upset with someone for not doing it when they’ve expressed they don’t operate that way.
They definitely crashed and burned and that’s okay because sometimes you don’t mesh with others. She’s very affectionate (not a bad thing) and he’s more reserved so it wasn’t clicking. I also didn’t appreciate some of his actions/ comments towards her. He could’ve kept them to himself.
I get what you’re saying. But doing it in front of her face was a choice. She even asked him if he was going to hug her and he said no. Which again is fine because if he’s not comfortable then he’s not comfortable. But can say I can understand her frustration. It felt like he wanted Chelley but he picked her
I think that was the issue he established boundaries with only her and it gave you hate me vibes. Like I’d feel like sh*t if we just got coupled up and someone is telling me they don’t want me doing the things that makes me ‘me’ but then I turn around and they’re doing those things for someone else. He also admitted he didn’t couple up with Chelly that night just because they agreed to get the full experience but that came at the expense of Amaya and Austin.
I don’t think he realized she entered the room when he went to hug Chelley. Because when Amaya came in the room he was like 2 steps from Chelley and already leaning in for the hug. And when she asked he said “nah respectful” and I feel like that’s just him sticking to his boundaries even tho he knows why she’s asking. But I get how shitty it would feel for her tho in that moment.
And about the feeling like he wanted Chelley part, I’m 80% sure he kept telling her he was interested in her in all their talks before the docks. And I know actions speak louder than words sometimes but I think him telling her that he was still open to exploring was showing his interest and if they lasted longer than a day, then it could’ve given them more time to get to that physical part she needed.
I mean he kind of had to establish them that night because they would be sharing a bed with each other and it would be uncomfortable for him to be cuddling and she might have been even more hurt if she tried to cuddle with him and he just rejects her. I understand how that made her feel rejected or sad, but if you’re not comfortable with doing something then you shouldn’t have to compromise yourself to make someone else happy.
From his conversation with Amaya before the recoupling he was interested in her and he chose her to explore their connection. I honestly don’t see nothing wrong with wanting to test a connection with someone you were interested in even if it’s a little because you never know how things will go and they might just be your person. But they clearly weren’t compatible after everything.