Anonymous #1 10w

congrats, the post says licensed psychiatrist though (plus that still doesn’t give you the green light to diagnose a stranger over tv)

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Anonymous #2 10w

Nobody is diagnosing her babe. People are simply making observations about her behaviors. As a literal therapist, I definitely know what it looks like

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Anonymous #1 10w

so then as a therapist you should know that there are multiple other disorders that present the same as bpd, even adhd, so there’s no way for us, as strangers that are unable to have a conversation with her, to differentiate between those. and again the post is referring to people trying to diagnose her, reading is fundamental

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Anonymous #2 10w

I'm diagnosing you as crazy and annoying 😍

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Anonymous #2 10w

Also yes, reading is fundamental! Notice how I said nothing about how she IS bipolar, just that people are simply making observations about her behavior! Hmmm

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Anonymous #1 10w

And let me add: as a *literal* therapist, I definitely know what it looks like, so I think the discourse is interesting! Obviously I'm not making any final assumptions about her as I don't actually know her, but I do think she presents some bpd traits!

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Anonymous #1 10w

yk that bpd and bipolar are not the same things right? and why do you keep bringing up that you’re a literal therapist like that completely invalidates whatever i have to say? therapists do not know everything and actually have pretty high rates of misdiagnosis, and that’s with actual sessions. again, i said the post is talking about people who are trying to diagnose her, you said they weren’t and they quite literally are, i never said that you yourself are trying to.

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Anonymous #1 10w

it’s like you want to find a reason to argue, you keep taking things that aren’t directed towards you as a personal attack like we’re not saying the same thing (we can’t diagnose her). plus the “i’m diagnosing you as crazy and annoying” ik im not your client but imagine how they would feel if they knew that this is how their therapist spoke to people online, do you think that would make them more comfortable and open up to you? maybe we should think before we speak

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Anonymous #2 10w

1. I brought up being a therapist twice. Had nothing to do with invalidating what you have to say but more so to counter your argument saying no one here is a licensed professional. The second one was because you tried to belittle me and what I do. I responded to make myself more clear. 2. I am very well aware bpd and bipolar are different, yet both terms have been used in the discourse of Huda. Don't talk to me like I'm dumb.

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Anonymous #2 10w

And don't tell me to think before I speak. I know what I'm saying. God forbid therapists are real people too. You are aware that we don't have to speak like a DSM-5 robot and go by the book in normal day-to-day interactions right? You're pissing me off, so I'm gonna let you know and make a joke you obviously can't take. Sue me! Funny how you said I'm taking things as a personal attack when you are quite literally personally attacking me and what my clients would think of me.

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Anonymous #1 10w

1. thrice, “countering” “invalidating” you’re trying to tell me how i’m wrong, reading is still fundamental though bc the post says licensed psychiatrist 2. this post says bpd 3. maybe just be a nicer person? making fun of mental illness by saying “i’m diagnosing [someone as] crazy and annoying” is not traits that i’d associate with a good therapist, yes i’ll admit that part was a personal attack but so is also what you said. no you don’t have to talk like a dsm robot but that’s not the type

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Anonymous #1 10w

of language *i believe* a therapist should be using, especially surrounding topics about mental health and not in a casual, friendly setting. if i saw that about my therapist i would think that they wouldn’t take my emotions seriously and i would feel uncomfortable opening up to them, you don’t have to use exact jargon but also just be more respectful

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Anonymous #2 10w

You are truly a piece of work. Everything you are saying I can throw right back at you. Just because I have a particular job doesn't mean I must be kind to people who aren't kind to me. Reading really is fundamental as you clearly haven't read anything I said correctly. You can be the one to start practicing being respectful. Maybe you can even book an appointment with me.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Thank god my success as a professional and my worth as a person isn't dependent on an anonymous Internet user who thinks they're the all knowing!

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Anonymous #2 10w

And stop trying to be offended so bad. The "I'm diagnosing you as crazy and annoying" bit was a light dig at your misinterpretation of how you assume everyone to be diagnosing Huda. It was to portray how ridiculous that is. I'm obviously not making fun of mental illness. Get so real

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Anonymous #1 10w

no thanks, i already have a therapist. what can you throw back? i didn’t say you had to be kind to people who aren’t kind to you, but we should also be mindful of how our words can harm those who are vulnerable with us (not me, clients, etc) and i doubt this is the only instance, if that’s how you regularly talk to people online then you need to rethink that and how that impacts the people ur supposed to be helping, i don’t think i was being disrespectful i just said you needed to read the post

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Anonymous #1 10w

plus i’ve read and responded to everything you’ve said, but you keep arguing and saying the same things even though that’s not what’s being discussed, when at the end of the day we are agreeing

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Anonymous #1 10w

that is not the message conveyed when you say “i’m diagnosing you as crazy and annoying” especially to someone you’re arguing with, but i feel like you know this. correct me if im wrong but isn’t this an example of gaslighting?

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Anonymous #2 10w

You have quite literally been nothing but disrespectful and argumentative, yet you're going to act like you're not being kind? You're on a weird high horse, and I kindly suggest you discuss that with your trusted therapist. And yes, I do believe we have the same agreement, but I was originally refuting your claim that all these random people are diagnosing a stranger. And as someone who is quite relevant to the field, that's why I brought up being a therapist in the first place.

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Anonymous #2 10w

And I also don't think people are just randomly "diagnosing." People are just making observations about the behaviors they see. It's called discourse. Then, somewhere along the way, you had to insult me as a person and professional. Do you see how that's not kind? 😊

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Anonymous #2 10w

Since I'm clocked out and you're not my client, you are insane. Gaslighting? Yeah okay. Not being able to understand the conveyed message seems more of a you problem as I thought it was quite clear. Let's learn to laugh more maybe

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Anonymous #1 10w

i never claimed to be kind and yes i’m be argumentative because we don’t agree on something, however i don’t believe that i have been disrespectful. i’m on a high horse but you’re the one telling me i need to talk to my therapist about not agreeing with someone and telling them to be more respectful? hmm idk ab that one. but there quite literally are random people trying to diagnose a stranger, there’s no refuting that. what does relevance in your field have to do with the original post?

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Anonymous #2 10w

Are you trying to be dense? Like I'm genuinely so serious this quite literally feels like rage bait. Have a great day and I hope you heal from whatever torments you

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Anonymous #1 10w

“i’m diagnosing you as crazy and annoying” isn’t just a joke, especially from someone who claims to be a therapist. telling someone “stop trying to be offended so bad” is a way to dismiss the reaction and shift blame. calling it a “light dig” and saying it was misinterpreted is gaslighting, trying to make the other person seem unreasonable for being upset.

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Anonymous #1 10w

denying the harm, calling someone “insane,” and ending with “let’s learn to laugh more maybe” just adds to it. all of it works to make the other person doubt how they felt and whether their response was valid, which is exactly what gaslighting is.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Claim offense all you want. Just know you're weird and very wrong. I'm off the clock, I don't have the head space nor desire to work with you too. Again, have a great life and hope you heal! Bye now 🫶🏼

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Anonymous #1 10w

The fact of the matter is they weren’t unkind to you until you started being disrespectful to them. You’re just choosing to be an asshole. It is extremely telling the way you behave with people and treat them over a simple disagreement, even outside of an office.

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Anonymous #1 10w

What makes this even worse is how quick you are to weaponize your supposed title to justify being hostile and demeaning. That kind of behavior isn’t just unprofessional, its harmful. If this is how you treat people outside of a clinical setting, I can’t imagine how you carry yourself with clients.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Your morals and ethics don’t just switch off when you’re off the clock. Being in a helping profession means holding yourself to a higher standard all the time. The fact that you think this is okay is genuinely disturbing.

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Anonymous #4 10w

thank you for better articulating my thoughts, especially with the “your moral and ethics don’t just switch off when you’re off the clock”

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Anonymous #4 10w

Hey queen! So actually OP was immediately disrespectful towards me! Hope that helps

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Anonymous #1 10w

Hey so I actually said nothing! That was number 2 so

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Anonymous #4 10w

Also let's look up the definition of weaponizing before using it! Didn't use my profession to justify being "hostile" and "demeaning," but sure that's an angle! And you are right, my morals and ethics don't switch off! I'm very strong within them, and I stand by everything that I have said. Just because I have a certain profession doesn't mean I need to sit there and accept getting talked down to. I urge you guys to open yourselves up to multiple perspectives and cut the usage of buzz words 🫶🏼

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Anonymous #4 10w

"As a therapist you should know..." and "reading is fundamental" isn't exactly respectful dialogue!

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Anonymous OP 10w

My bad meant to say 2 then

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Anonymous #1 10w

Neither is using your career as a crutch in multiple conversations. Like I mentioned to you a very very long time ago you are weaponizing your field. You’re trying to present yourself as superior because you’re a supposed therapist.

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Anonymous #4 10w

That's definitely a perspective! 😊 The only person weaponizing my profession is yall now, so that's quite interesting. I only ever brought it up to make a point against what was originally being said by OP. And not sure what's so odd considering I've definitely never had this conversation on yikyak before.

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Anonymous #4 10w

As 2 said, reading truly is fundamental.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Sure you haven’t! It’s very unlikely for two different people to have nearly identical remarks in the same exact mindset.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Yes, you should probably take that advice.

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Anonymous #1 10w

you literally brought up being a therapist in every single comment up to that point, i don't see how it's disrespectful for me to reference you being a therapist. and again we wouldn't have had any disagreements if you properly read the post.

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