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HOT TAKE‼️ I’ll never forget the way ppl dogged on Ace for him setting boundaries with Amaya when she was CLEARLY not listening or being receptive of what he was saying at all
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Anonymous 9w

i think its stupid how people hated on him to but i dont think its fair to say she did anything wrong. she even apologized.

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Anonymous 9w

His boundaries were valid; however, it was how he went about it in a way that gave I don’t like you. Which was layer basically confirmed by Ace when he said he picked Amaya because earlier Chelly and him agreed to explore other islanders even though they knew they liked each other. He wasted her time and proceeded to have this “I hate my couple” attitude.

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Anonymous 9w

No literally. He just communicated his boundaries and she took it as him rejecting her even though he continuously said he wanted to explore their connection.

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Anonymous 9w

Um well no. I will always defend him from racism and the hate he’s getting right now bc he doesn’t deserve it, and especially not now but he was extremely weird to Amaya and people are allowed to find him weird for that during his time in the villa. Let’s be serious it was so disgusting

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Anonymous 9w

Amaya never even had a problem w his boundaries, she said she felt horrible that he was talking to her in that way and dismissing her even tho HE chose to couple up w her and got emotional. She already apologized for the crashout immediately and explained herself perfectly and took accountability. that’s all we want from the islanders anyways

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

She apologized but did nothing wrong…….She wouldn’t let him talk and has a problem with cutting ppl off

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Okay and you interact with people perfectly?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

would you be okay with people picking apart every single thing you could have said or done better? I think we should just allow people to learn and grow & as long as they are open to learning from how their actions impact other people then its not that big of a deal

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Lmao no one is picking her apart. You had said that she did nothing wrong which is far from the truth. If she had done nothing wrong she would have nothing to work on. You’re contradicting yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Never claimed that I did. But you saying that she did nothing wrong is contradicting. My first claim was that everyone hopped on the bandwagon to hate on Ace and made it seem like he was the villain when he wasn’t. There wasn’t one yet ppl IMMEDIATELY began hating on him

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

You're saying I'm contradicting myself, but you're misunderstanding my point. A person can do something imperfect or unintentionally hurtful without being 'wrong' in a moral sense. 'Doing something wrong' suggests harmful intent or bad character, and I don't think that fits Amaya. She clearly wasn't listening in that moment, and she even owned up to that. That's growth. What I'm saying is: people mess up, interrupt, misread situations. It doesn't make them villains.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

If she's open to learning from it, why keep labeling her as “wrong”? Not everything has to be about blame. My issue is with the way people are quick to label and shame instead of just letting people grow. And that goes for Ace too-I agree he was unfairly villainized. The real contradiction is pretending to support growth while still clinging to blame

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 9w

How did he go about it in a “I don’t like you” way?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 9w

I disagree. He told her continuously that he wanted to explore their connection then gave up when she was being mad disrespectful while he was trying to speak. Y’all can like her now but y’all gotta admit that she was a mess at first

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 9w

Islanders say that re couplings are always intense and there’s a high afterwards, right after the re coupling it wasn’t about what he said to her but the tone in which he said it. And fine this could’ve been unintentional but he came off as he just didn’t want her to be her. He was well aware of how she operated before the re coupling and then proceeded to list things about her that he didn’t want. Then topping it all off his tone and then the sneaking off with Chelly.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

And I never claimed she was a villain. We obviously have different definitions of the word “wrong” bc I see it as saying that the way she went about communicating with him was wrong, which is true. She barely let him get full sentences out and you can’t expect good communication when you’re not letting the other side get a word out. Did she have growth? Absolutely. But the way ppl attacked him was ridiculous when she was the main reason why they didn’t have good communication when coupled up

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

She was wrong in that moment. At this point you just wanted to argue bc I made it very clear that I was talking about that specific situation.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

No one's denying that she could've handled that moment better. I literally said that. My point is just that labeling it as “wrong” in a moral, definitive way doesn't help anyone grow. You're focused on proving she was 'more at fault' when I'm saying: let's stop treating emotionally messy moments like they have to come with blame or a villain. People learn. They misstep. That doesn't make them inherently wrong.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

If that sounds like arguing to you, maybe you're not actually open to hearing a different perspective.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

And the whole reason people attacked Ace is because they had the same mindset toward him that you a holding toward Amaya

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 9w

Her being touchy is her being her? He said his boundary and she basically told him he made her sad and that he was giving player vibes. He then apologized for hurting her feelings. He can’t sacrifice his comfort just because she’s more touchy feely.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 9w

Also his tone was always calm when he was speaking to her and he was very open to hearing how she felt about things. I just think she felt rejected because he just wasn’t fucking with her pace and that’s fine because that just means she wasn’t for him. He also did tell her about being open to exploring other connections and that she should still explore other people as well because he didn’t want to take away from her experience.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Except I didn’t even use the word “wrong” in my original statement. I was calling out the ppl who immediately started dragging Ace, and then you made it into something completely different, dragging it out

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

You commented under my post for no reason, dragging a point out that wasn’t even originally made….. for again no reason

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

WRONG ppl don’t understand what setting boundaries is and immediately began to pity her bc “they won’t defend a man”. Don’t start throwing accusations around, you don’t know me babe

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 9w

He was not “weird” to her. She’s too much for some ppl and he was trying to express that. Y’all take someone asking her to meet them halfway and him saying that she couldn’t be herself which isn’t the same. She failed to be receptive of his boundaries

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 9w

He didn’t dismiss her, she was not an easy person to have a convo with and easily got defensive when he was stating his boundaries with her. Yes they made up, but the hate he got was disgusting and beyond too far when she was part of the problem as well

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