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i love the dynamic the avengers have in aou but i cannot stand the way natasha is written in it, she is not a monster just bc she can’t have kids 😭 i guess i understand her feeling that way but using it to say she’s similar to bruce is so weird
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Anonymous 17w

joss whedon they could never make me like your writing

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Anonymous 16w

I thought it was more an “idc if you’re infertile because I am too” and it just has a tragic backstory. I could be wrong I haven’t watched AOU in a while but I never thought she felt like a monster because she couldn’t have kids. Because of her ledger, ya. Does she want kids and feel sad about not being able to have them? Also ya, but I never felt like they were the same feeling

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

hmm yeah i could see that as what she meant but i watched it last night and she tells bruce about the “graduation” from the red room after he says he can’t have kids, and right after she finishes telling him about it she says “still think you’re the only monster on the team” which to me makes it seem like she’s referring to the sterilization and not her ledger

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

it could still ve about her ledger but if it is i think that’s a just a really strange writing choice bc putting it after the sterilization comment makes it seem like she’s talking about being unable to have kids which is how i always interpreted it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

I can definitely see that. But she might also have said that about anything that marked her graduation to be a literal assassin. She might also feel less than human because the point of the procedure was literally to dehumanize her. She might still feel that way if they took her kidneys too. A bad mix of meeting Bruce where he is and the loaded feelings around fertility. I’d love to see a woman’s take on the scene

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

i am a woman lol! i do think the situation is very complicated her feelings like a monster is probably a mix of both the red room thing and the infertility thing; i do understand that she (and irl infertile women) may feel that way for not being able to have kids, i just wish they approached it in a different way than comparing her to the hulk bc the situations don’t feel comparable

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

Oh I’m a woman too, I meant like a woman director! Because it seems like that had too many ideas and not enough “should we do this?”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

ohh yes!! i see what you mean

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