MLB on Yik Yak | It’s actually embarrassing seeing how casual MLB media is where Schwarber is gonna somehow end up 2nd for MVP voting. He wasn’t even the best player on his team this year, both Turner and Sanchez (and Wheeler if he stayed healthy) were better

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MLB 3w

It’s actually embarrassing seeing how casual MLB media is where Schwarber is gonna somehow end up 2nd for MVP voting. He wasn’t even the best player on his team this year, both Turner and Sanchez (and Wheeler if he stayed healthy) were better

Anonymous 3w

Nahh Turner was DEFINITELY not better than Schwarber. Like not even close. Sanchez and Wheeler maybe, but pitchers need to have one of the greatest seasons ever to win MVP because it’s so frequently seen as the position players’ version of the Cy Young. That’s why it’s so rare. Schwarber singlehandedly won probably 10+ games for the Phillies this year and was easily the most impactful player on the team. Ohtani still deserved the win over him though

Anonymous 3w

Great hitter with +defense at a premium defensive position and elite baserunning vs a top level hitter who provides 0 defensive value and is a liability as a baserunner. WAR isn’t the end all stat, but 0.7 more in 21 less games is kinda telling

Anonymous 3w

It’s clearly Soto IMO. Comparable hitting numbers, Soto gets on base more while Schwarber has the higher slug. Soto has the higher OPS+, was a much better baserunner, and while he isn’t a good defender, he is still playing defense and not clogging the DH spot.

Anonymous

OP 3w

WAR is a bs stat. It’s completely subjective and meaningless. And your graphic only proves my point further. Aside from baserunning, the only batting stats that Trea is better than Schwarber in is just getting hits. Schwarber is better at like everything else, plus he’s WAY better in high leverage situations. Schwarber’s offensive production fully makes up for his lack of defense, and then some. Trea had a great year, but it’s really no comparison between the two of them.

Anonymous

#1 3w

I don’t think you understand how much more valuable a + defensive shortstop is compared to a DH. Also, “WAR is stupid” with no actual reasoning or evidence for why it’s a bad stat isn’t an argument lmao, you can’t just say a stay is bad because it disagrees with you. Schwarber literally just hits bombs and gets on base. Schwarber hits for average, gets on base, solid power, and with elite speed and great defense. Turner was better.

Anonymous

OP 3w

*Turner does all of those things, typo

Anonymous

OP 3w

I said WAR is bad because that wasn’t my main point. It’s a bad stat because it’s completely subjective in the way it’s allocated. It’s not based on any real facts or algorithms like other stats. It’s solely based on how a certain sites views a particular player. Schwarber was far more impactful to the team in every way offensively except for like the number of hits, and he’s a very smart baserunner. But we can agree to disagree

Anonymous

#1 3w

Yeah Schwarber was a better hitter, but the gap between Schwarber and Turner as a hitter is smaller than the gap between the two in every other aspect, but with Turner leading the way

Anonymous

OP 3w

Again, agree to disagree

Anonymous

#1 3w

we can both agree tho, it wasn’t close between him and Ohtani lol. If I had my way, Schwarber wouldn’t be top 5 for MVP

Anonymous

#1 3w

would you have taken Schwarber or Soto?

Anonymous

OP 3w

We can agree that he’s behind Ohtani. But I’d either have Schwarber at #2 or #3

Anonymous

OP 3w

Undecided on Soto. I appreciate that he plays defense and had a great season, but I haven’t actually looked at all of his stats enough to make a definitive decision on his placement relative to Schwarber

Anonymous

OP 3w

Whatever you say dude